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intellichat 10-20-2011 02:52 PM

bangbros doesn't fuck around, takes illegal tube over!!
 
So yea It's been a while since I really did anything on here but just saw this... Looks like pretty big news,

http://www.xbiz.com/news/139823

seeandsee 10-20-2011 02:56 PM

fake user uploads must be stoped :D

bronco67 10-20-2011 02:57 PM

In related news, I must see this video called "Dancing Bear -- Dick Dick Goose".

devilspost 10-20-2011 02:57 PM

GRHK LLC, operators of DancingBear, had been seeking the identities of FapZap's operators in a letter to its hosting service Choopa and filed with the federal court in Miami.

In the letter to Choopa in August, GRHK said that it had become aware of 18 videos on FapZap that were poached and streamed on the tube site, including such titles as "Dancing Bear — Crazy Party Girls," "Dancing Bear — Fucking in the Club" and "Dancing Bear — Dick Dick Goose."

"[W]e request that Choopa remove or disable access to the attached claimed infringing material as soon as practical after receipt of this notification," the letter said.

Two days after serving Choopa with the letter, the case against FapZap was terminated and now FapZap.com redirects to DancingBear.com.

On Wednesday, the attorney of record for GRHK in the claim, Marc Randazza, would not confirm nor deny terms of an apparent settlement to XBIZ.

FapZap, according to archived pages, claimed to be "one of the world's largest free porn tube resources"; it currently ranks No. 22,371 on Alexa. The site had been operable as a tube site for less than a year, and it is unclear who owned the site.

DancingBear, also known as "Tale of the Dancing Bear," features stripping bachelorette party sex; its Alexa ranking is No. 3,202

BAKO 10-20-2011 02:58 PM

Fapzap had shitty traffic

porno jew 10-20-2011 03:05 PM

they didn't respond to dmca's or what's the deal?

Paper_Amar 10-20-2011 03:23 PM

Major props to bangbros! The train is coming!

epitome 10-20-2011 03:25 PM

Does every DMCA ignored get a press release now?

arock10 10-20-2011 03:39 PM

corbin fisher suing even more people as usual too

http://www.xbiz.com/news/139078

porno jew 10-20-2011 03:41 PM

Dick Dick Goose.

Why 10-20-2011 04:29 PM

Damn, they sure mention Alexa in that article a lot... do people still put much value in those Alexa numbers?

Jey p 10-20-2011 05:16 PM

nice story!

Mutt 10-20-2011 05:23 PM

FapZap, according to archived pages, claimed to be "one of the world's largest free porn tube resources"; it currently ranks No. 22,371 on Alexa.


:1orglaugh

marlboroack 10-20-2011 05:25 PM

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...Picture024.jpg

Jayvis 10-20-2011 05:28 PM

You need to start posting more!!

19teenporn 10-20-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar (Post 18504936)
Major props to bangbros! The train is coming!

If content producers or sponsors did something, piracy would fucking stop.

But they don't.

Whoever does something gets results, but gurus here say it's just bullshit...

garce 10-20-2011 05:51 PM

I'll have to start promoting DB again. Good shit.

Pipecrew 10-20-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18505124)
FapZap, according to archived pages, claimed to be "one of the world's largest free porn tube resources"; it currently ranks No. 22,371 on Alexa.


:1orglaugh

According to alexa looked like it peaked out around 5k

porno jew 10-20-2011 06:05 PM

how come they couldn't find out who owned it? that's odd.

Mutt 10-20-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18505212)
how come they couldn't find out who owned it? that's odd.

that's one of the biggest challenges to suing - finding out who exactly owns a tube ain't easy. and even when you do finding out who actually owns the company and what country they are residing in is more detective work - for which a law firm charges a lot of money.

porno jew 10-20-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18505222)
that's one of the biggest challenges to suing - finding out who exactly owns a tube ain't easy. and even when you do finding out who actually owns the company and what country they are residing in is more detective work - for which a law firm charges a lot of money.

i thought you could subpoena whois guard? but i guess if it's fake info you're fucked.

will76 10-20-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by intellichat (Post 18504874)
So yea It's been a while since I really did anything on here but just saw this... Looks like pretty big news,

http://www.xbiz.com/news/139823

Good for them but this part made me chuckle.. " FapZap, according to archived pages, claimed to be "one of the world's largest free porn tube resources"; it currently ranks No. 22,371 on Alexa. "

LOL Alexa rank of 22K wouldn't even make it in the top 100 of biggest tube sites much less "one of the word's largest".

will76 10-20-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 18505153)
If content producers or sponsors did something, piracy would fucking stop.

But they don't.

Whoever does something gets results, but gurus here say it's just bullshit...

it wouldn't stop but it would be held in check, that is for sure.

Still waiting for the first tube site lawsuit where they sue "john doe" defendants, subpoena the site for their records and go after the people who actually uploaded the content ( in some cases this will be the tube site themselves.) The uploaders can't hide behind DMAC and if the site doesn't comply with the subpoena they will be fucked. When they do comply they will piss off all of their "uploaders" / users. Either way its a big win / win. I am still surprised no one has tried this approach yet.

19teenporn 10-20-2011 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18505247)
I am still surprised no one has tried this approach yet.

Oh well...
Ignorance can't be, cause sponsors are the smartest guys on earth.

So, maybe they just have their reasons to not act against piracy. Of course we will never know because sponsors are superior beings and we are just plain dumb affiliates...

dgraves 10-20-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18505247)
it wouldn't stop but it would be held in check, that is for sure.

Still waiting for the first tube site lawsuit where they sue "john doe" defendants, subpoena the site for their records and go after the people who actually uploaded the content ( in some cases this will be the tube site themselves.) The uploaders can't hide behind DMAC and if the site doesn't comply with the subpoena they will be fucked. When they do comply they will piss off all of their "uploaders" / users. Either way its a big win / win. I am still surprised no one has tried this approach yet.

i discussed this with my lawyer who goes after torrent users and he said it's too expensive. if you went after one person who uploaded a video to a tube it could cost you $5K-$10K only to find out the IP is in a country that protects him from this kind of stuff.

the tube owners upload most of the content themselves so i'm sure they have a way of getting around that, possibly through a proxy server so it would be a huge waste of money.

will76 10-20-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18505355)
i discussed this with my lawyer who goes after torrent users and he said it's too expensive. if you went after one person who uploaded a video to a tube it could cost you $5K-$10K only to find out the IP is in a country that protects him from this kind of stuff.

the tube owners upload most of the content themselves so i'm sure they have a way of getting around that, possibly through a proxy server so it would be a huge waste of money.

I don't see why it would cost so much to subpoena a tube site owner to turn over all of the records when you provide them with a big list of the videos that were stolen and uploaded. You then shake down the list no different then they do with the torrents. If the user ued a proxy you just move on to the next one. The point is that you turning up the heat on them, you forcing them to comply with the courts or face the legal consequences and you pissing off their members because the tube site is turning over their information. shake the tree enough some apples will fall out.

porno jew 10-20-2011 09:18 PM

only thing i can think of close to that is that the mpaa requested and got hotfile to give them info on their top 500 uploaders.

http://torrentfreak.com/hotfile-orde...e-mpaa-110830/

Gambrinus 10-20-2011 09:23 PM

http://i.imgur.com/jMZkY.gif

Nautilus 10-20-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 18504967)
corbin fisher suing even more people as usual too

http://www.xbiz.com/news/139078

Cool story. And I was wondering why all of a sudden they switched to 100% sponsor provided clips and we do not have to send DMCAs to them anymore. Now the reason is clear.

Thanks Corbin Fisher :thumbsup

porno jew 10-20-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18505491)
Cool story. And I was wondering why all of a sudden they switched to 100% sponsor provided clips and we do not have to send DMCAs to them anymore. Now the reason is clear.

Thanks Corbin Fisher :thumbsup

i wish someone would do something about ashemaletube, same people (i think).

Tofu 10-20-2011 09:38 PM

One small step for porn, one giant leap for pornographers!

Nautilus 10-20-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18505240)
Good for them but this part made me chuckle.. " FapZap, according to archived pages, claimed to be "one of the world's largest free porn tube resources"; it currently ranks No. 22,371 on Alexa. "

LOL Alexa rank of 22K wouldn't even make it in the top 100 of biggest tube sites much less "one of the word's largest".

Yes it WAS one of the world's largest tubes that hosted absurd amount of stolen content, probably even more than xvideos.

They're still in RYC's top infringing tubes despite being closed for more than a month. Their boasting was not that out of touch as you believe it was. This message was aimed at surfers, not webmasters, and surfers do not care what traffic rank a site has, they want lots of stolen full length clips and fapzap provided plenty.

They were not the biggest tube traffic wise, yes, but they were climbing fast until taken down by DB.

22K is not their actual rank. Their rank is ZERO now because they're closed. 22K is a 3 months average. It was close to 5K about 2 months ago and climbing, it is zero now. 22K average is a meaningless figure.

Nautilus 10-20-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18505497)
i wish someone would do something about ashemaletube, same people (i think).

Why do you think they're the same people? They're hosted at different datacenter - advancedhosters IIRC, not choopa. Doesn't mean they cannot be the same ppl though.

And yes, I agree that ashemaletube is the worst from the current bunch of illegal tubes (after fapzap is no more). It'd be great to take them down too, which shouldn't be that hard given the recent precedents.

porno jew 10-20-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18505530)
Why do you think they're the same people? They're hosted at different datacenter - advancedhosters IIRC, not choopa. Doesn't mean they cannot be the same ppl though.

And yes, I agree that ashemaletube is the worst from the current bunch of illegal tubes (after fapzap is no more). It'd be great to take them down too, which shouldn't be that hard given the recent precedents.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1005243

sunporno also part of tgpalliance network. look at network sites at top of ashemaletube.

RycEric 10-20-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18505467)
I don't see why it would cost so much to subpoena a tube site owner to turn over all of the records when you provide them with a big list of the videos that were stolen and uploaded. You then shake down the list no different then they do with the torrents. If the user ued a proxy you just move on to the next one. The point is that you turning up the heat on them, you forcing them to comply with the courts or face the legal consequences and you pissing off their members because the tube site is turning over their information. shake the tree enough some apples will fall out.

Outside legal time, the cost comes in when you need to file a separate lawsuit against each uploader. As I understand, you can not joinder all the uploaders because each upload and instance of uploading is different. Thus, filing fees times number of uploaders adds up quick.

V_RocKs 10-20-2011 11:15 PM

Winning...

PromoterX 10-20-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambrinus (Post 18505485)

Holy shit... I swear I stared at that for like 5 minutes straight. :warning:warning:warning

I'm going to go full pervert and ask where the video is for that.... it's rare these days to shock me, and that GIF just did it.

Paul Markham 10-21-2011 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 18505153)
If content producers or sponsors did something, piracy would fucking stop.

But they don't.

Whoever does something gets results, but gurus here say it's just bullshit...

Sponsors do a lot with piracy sites, they advertise on them and give them content.

The problem is ROI. Suing one and closing them, means all the traffic on that piracy site moves to another piracy site. So, spend a lot of time and money to get no where. It's cheaper and more productive to stick an advert on a piracy site.

Ethical? NO
Logical? A VERY BIG YES.

That's the situation of online porn. The solution isn't to sue one so anther takes it's traffic.

So what is the solution? That's a very tough question to answer.

Maybe a better product more suited to the buyers needs. And getting that with the cost of traffic is going to be hard.

Otherwise there's none. Sorry to be so negative, but if no one can come up with a better reason to buy porn. Then surfers will continue to go for the free option.

CamTraffic 10-21-2011 04:36 AM

Doesn't fucking matter if it has a high alexa or not.

It's good to see content producer taking action.

Sue them All!!!!

nico-t 10-21-2011 04:44 AM

never heard of fapzap, never seen it in google for any keywords whatsoever. Fail


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