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sonofsam 07-16-2005 04:26 AM
Should i get NATS ... help me decide...
 
is nats worthless if you arn't planning on cascading? my only option is to use paycom...

but are the other features worth the 1500 dollar one time fee + 150/month?

mainly stats... since paycom stats are complete garbage.... i wan't to know how my tour is doing.... and that kinda stuff... and make it easier for affiliates.... but is it worth 1500 ??

basically i'm just REALLY choked at paycoms garbage they call stats....

any suggestions/ideas?

Hornydog4cooter 07-16-2005 04:28 AM
Here is a bump for you bud.... Curious to hear this myself..........

abyss_al 07-16-2005 04:33 AM
nats is awsome.. we use it.. hit me up :thumbsup

sonofsam 07-16-2005 04:40 AM
bump......

FireFoz 07-16-2005 04:42 AM
As a non-paysite owner i fucking hate nats. Not because its nats that it is bad, but i dont want a check for each paysite i promote. I promote like 40 paysites, if i break the minimum check limit on 20 of these sites every 2 weeks i'd have to go with 20 checks every 2 weeks to the bank. In addition, i have to pay a $12 fee per check to cash it. Im avoiding nats sites for sure since i just want to get 1 check from ccbill for all sites i promote through ccbill at once.

justsexxx 07-16-2005 04:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFoz
As a non-paysite owner i fucking hate nats. Not because its nats that it is bad, but i dont want a check for each paysite i promote. I promote like 40 paysites, if i break the minimum check limit on 20 of these sites every 2 weeks i'd have to go with 20 checks every 2 weeks to the bank. In addition, i have to pay a $12 fee per check to cash it. Im avoiding nats sites for sure since i just want to get 1 check from ccbill for all sites i promote through ccbill at once.
What is they offer epassporte payments?

As far as the question. Yeah epoch stats suck ass. And why not add ccbill as well? You only have to fill in some papers, and you are done.

But I would take nats to see at least some stats yes. Or maybe have one custom written, since you won't use 99% of nats features...

Paparazzi 07-16-2005 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFoz
As a non-paysite owner i fucking hate nats. Not because its nats that it is bad, but i dont want a check for each paysite i promote. I promote like 40 paysites, if i break the minimum check limit on 20 of these sites every 2 weeks i'd have to go with 20 checks every 2 weeks to the bank. In addition, i have to pay a $12 fee per check to cash it. Im avoiding nats sites for sure since i just want to get 1 check from ccbill for all sites i promote through ccbill at once.
don't you have epassporte?

sonofsam 07-16-2005 04:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justsexxx
What is they offer epassporte payments?

As far as the question. Yeah epoch stats suck ass. And why not add ccbill as well? You only have to fill in some papers, and you are done.

But I would take nats to see at least some stats yes. Or maybe have one custom written, since you won't use 99% of nats features...
i can't add ccbill... i'm in canada... i had to incorporate in the US just to be able to get paycom... but ccbill requires the Principle owner of the company to live in the states....

so you think i should have custom affiliate stats coded?

sonofsam 07-16-2005 05:00 AM
any other stats alternatives?

Rex 07-16-2005 05:06 AM
NATs would at least help you organize what you have already. What are your other options?

sonofsam 07-16-2005 05:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex
What are your other options?
dunno... thats why i thought i'd ask here...

but the response i'm getting is that, unless i'm doing cascade billing it wouldn't be totally worth it

TMM_John 07-16-2005 05:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFoz
As a non-paysite owner i fucking hate nats. Not because its nats that it is bad, but i dont want a check for each paysite i promote. I promote like 40 paysites, if i break the minimum check limit on 20 of these sites every 2 weeks i'd have to go with 20 checks every 2 weeks to the bank. In addition, i have to pay a $12 fee per check to cash it. Im avoiding nats sites for sure since i just want to get 1 check from ccbill for all sites i promote through ccbill at once.
Wouldn't that be ANY non-biller based programs including other software packages and any custom coded solution.

Basically you're saying you avoid any company handling their own checks?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-16-2005 05:51 AM
SoS, I saw you already opted for NATS in another thread...what a rube!!!

You're just starting out. In the beginning keep your overhead low. Don't expect overnight success, and especially don't expect some third party solution to be your magic bullet.

You are already facing an uphill battle - don't make it harder right from the get go, by purchasing overkill software for what your immediate needs are. It will be the same price (or lower) when you actually need it, and when you have proven that you can afford it.

Oh well, too late I guess. Be patient, and work diligently on your own marketing first Grasshopper.

ADG Webmaster

sonofsam 07-16-2005 05:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
SoS, I saw you already opted for NATS in another thread...what a rube!!!

You're just starting out. In the beginning keep your overhead low. Don't expect overnight success, and especially don't expect some third party solution to be your magic bullet.

You are already facing an uphill battle - don't make it harder right from the get go, by purchasing overkill software for what your immediate needs are. It will be the same price (or lower) when you actually need it, and when you have proven that you can afford it.

Oh well, too late I guess. Be patient, and work diligently on your own marketing first Grasshopper.

ADG Webmaster
i agree with you, but this was a necessity... had some affiliates who were sending traffic complain about not being able to see any stats.. and also the conversions are sucking hardcore.. but i can't identify where the problem is because paycom doesn't show any stats... at least this way i'll be able to indentify where the problem is.. plus... i would be getting something like this down the road anyways so doesn't hurt too much to buy it right now :)

TMM_John 07-16-2005 05:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
i agree with you, but this was a necessity... had some affiliates who were sending traffic complain about not being able to see any stats.. and also the conversions are sucking hardcore.. but i can't identify where the problem is because paycom doesn't show any stats... at least this way i'll be able to indentify where the problem is.. plus... i would be getting something like this down the road anyways so doesn't hurt too much to buy it right now :)
When you see NATS in action first hand and the main things it does for you and helps you handle you'll realize how wrong he is :)

Dalai lama 07-16-2005 06:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
any other stats alternatives?
Pick something that's fully customizeable, also a no lease option which saves you from ~$2k to $8k a year in costs

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-16-2005 06:10 AM
PBucks John is a NATS shill. Check his past posts - it's mostly NATS drivel.

What may be good for a well established program may not necessarily be good for a person just starting out with a single model site (which can be fraught with plenty of it's own pitfalls).

Anyway, I offered you free advice. Take it or leave it.

Either way, good luck.

ADG Webmaster

sonofsam 07-16-2005 06:12 AM
i appreciate your advice, and would love to talk with you tomorrow or soon if you're on.... i saw your post about emailing you in the other thread... its 6am right now and i've been up all night from this stress.. i'm gonna get some rest and hit you up tomorrow...

night everyone

edit: btw i don't have your email.... icq me with it

Nathan 07-16-2005 06:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalai lama
Pick something that's fully customizeable, also a no lease option which saves you from ~$2k to $8k a year in costs
Guessing you mean "source included" with "fully customizeable" because NATS is customizeable in basically all aspects.

A coder that could customize that thing for you would cost you well over $8k a year...

Also, do not forget, even with a source solution, you would still have to pay for support because of your coder(s) asking questions to the original writer of the app and so on (if you can even reach the original writer, which would of course be even worse if you could not)

bigdog 07-16-2005 06:15 AM
nats will give you a lot more insight into your program and it's cheap rental price can't be beat. If you have more money i would get ES because you can get the full source code

Nathan 07-16-2005 06:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
PBucks John is a NATS shill. Check his past posts - it's mostly NATS drivel.

What may be good for a well established program may not necessarily be good for a person just starting out with a single model site (which can be fraught with plenty of it's own pitfalls).

Anyway, I offered you free advice. Take it or leave it.

Either way, good luck.

ADG Webmaster
Uhm...

Quote:
A shill is an associate of a person selling a good or service, who pretends no association and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer.
Everyone knows John is one of the owners of Too Much Media, the makers of NATS, who here is pretending he is not associated?

Also, before you actually know NATS, and I do not think you know it at all (correct me if I am wrong) from an admin standpoint, do not judge what it can or can not do... It does more than you can imagine...

Chio The Pirate 07-16-2005 06:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
SoS, I saw you already opted for NATS in another thread...what a rube!!!

You're just starting out. In the beginning keep your overhead low. Don't expect overnight success, and especially don't expect some third party solution to be your magic bullet.

You are already facing an uphill battle - don't make it harder right from the get go, by purchasing overkill software for what your immediate needs are. It will be the same price (or lower) when you actually need it, and when you have proven that you can afford it.

Oh well, too late I guess. Be patient, and work diligently on your own marketing first Grasshopper.

ADG Webmaster
YARGH! It be good advice. Sam, ADGson know what he tawkin' about.

Manowar 07-16-2005 06:21 AM
NATS needs a payout history on the programs that use it

Nathan 07-16-2005 06:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manowar
NATS needs a payout history on the programs that use it
We are finishing it for v2.1 currently.

Manowar 07-16-2005 06:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan
We are finishing it for v2.1 currently.
Awesome :upsidedow

Barefootsies 07-16-2005 06:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFoz
As a non-paysite owner i fucking hate nats. Not because its nats that it is bad, but i dont want a check for each paysite i promote. I promote like 40 paysites, if i break the minimum check limit on 20 of these sites every 2 weeks i'd have to go with 20 checks every 2 weeks to the bank. In addition, i have to pay a $12 fee per check to cash it. Im avoiding nats sites for sure since i just want to get 1 check from ccbill for all sites i promote through ccbill at once.
Quote:
i have to pay a $12 fee per check to cash it.
huh? Who charges the $12?!?! The bank, or the crackas? I've never heard of something like that. Definately would be a turn off. Fucking-a. Any of these companies who charge you to get your fucking money need a :321GFY .

TMM_John 07-16-2005 06:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
PBucks John is a NATS shill. Check his past posts - it's mostly NATS drivel.

What may be good for a well established program may not necessarily be good for a person just starting out with a single model site (which can be fraught with plenty of it's own pitfalls).

Anyway, I offered you free advice. Take it or leave it.

Either way, good luck.

ADG Webmaster
Thanks for the personal insult. However, i'm not a "shill", I'm an owner. I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. You're entitled to your opinion no matter how uninformed it may be.

TMM_John 07-16-2005 06:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefootsies
huh? Who charges the $12?!?! The bank, or the crackas? I've never heard of something like that. Definately would be a turn off. Fucking-a. Any of these companies who charge you to get your fucking money need a :321GFY .
He's in Holland, it would be his bank and it would be totally normal for EU banks to charge a fee for US checks.

Dalai lama 07-16-2005 06:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan
Guessing you mean "source included" with "fully customizeable" because NATS is customizeable in basically all aspects.

A coder that could customize that thing for you would cost you well over $8k a year...

Also, do not forget, even with a source solution, you would still have to pay for support because of your coder(s) asking questions to the original writer of the app and so on (if you can even reach the original writer, which would of course be even worse if you could not)
If you buy a script from a company you can still customize and you still get support just there is no monthly fee. See it is as buying NATS in 1 time or EX from Bradshaw

Dalai lama 07-16-2005 06:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefootsies
huh? Who charges the $12?!?! The bank, or the crackas? I've never heard of something like that. Definately would be a turn off. Fucking-a. Any of these companies who charge you to get your fucking money need a :321GFY .
It's the bank who charges here in Holland :2 cents:

wjxxx 07-16-2005 06:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFoz
. In addition, i have to pay a $12 fee per check to cash it.
Thats why I promote sponsors with e-passporte payouts

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-16-2005 06:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
Thanks for the personal insult. However, i'm not a "shill", I'm an owner. I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. You're entitled to your opinion no matter how uninformed it may be.
I was only going on your propensity to make posts promoting NATS, not on your Alexa stats:

Traffic Rank for personalbucks.com on Alexa:ha 2,120,813

ADG Webmaster

Nathan 07-16-2005 06:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
I was only going on your propensity to make posts promoting NATS, not on your Alexa stats:

Traffic Rank for personalbucks.com on Alexa:ha 2,120,813

ADG Webmaster

You really do not get it right? He is a NATS OWNER.. of course he promotes NATS. Do you not promote ADG?!

sonofsam 07-16-2005 07:04 AM
before i go to sleep...

latest developement , i have purchased nats.... and will now be able to actually see how my tour is doing now.... lol :thumbsup

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=492901

Shooting_Manic 07-16-2005 07:05 AM
:) :) :) :)

TMM_John 07-16-2005 07:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
I was only going on your propensity to make posts promoting NATS, not on your Alexa stats:

Traffic Rank for personalbucks.com on Alexa:ha 2,120,813

ADG Webmaster
Yes, it's a webmaster program :)

I do quite fine income wise hence my driving a Lamborghini and owning a 7 figure home, but thanks for your concern over my success in this industry and webmaster program's alexa ranking.

Of course I'm going to make positive NATS posts as I'm an owner.

Again, I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. I've got better things to do and you've proven your intellegence. Bye!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-16-2005 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
Yes, it's a webmaster program :)

I do quite fine income wise hence my driving a Lamborghini and owning a 7 figure home, but thanks for your concern over my success in this industry and webmaster program's alexa ranking.

Of course I'm going to make positive NATS posts as I'm an owner.

Again, I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. I've got better things to do and you've proven your intellegence. Bye!
You drive a Lamborghini and own 7 figure home and yet you don't pay your afilliates on time:

Quote:
Quote from PersonalBucks.com:

Payouts for 4/16 - 4/30 will be sent within the first few days of June.
That's surely something to be proud of. You are living high on the hog while not paying people you owe on time. I'm sure all of your affiliates will be happy to know that.

Honestly, I have nothing against NATS. I simply think software such as that is for programs that already have proven that they can afford and need such software, not for some newbie simply trying to get off the ground.

Apparently you know more than me though, so therefore SoS should seek only your advice, afterall he is now helping to pay for the lifestyle that you like to brag about.

ADG Webmaster

SGS 07-16-2005 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
I do quite fine income wise hence my driving a Lamborghini and owning a 7 figure home, but thanks for your concern over my success in this industry and webmaster program's alexa ranking.
Nice :glugglug

TMM_John 07-16-2005 07:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
You drive a Lamborghini and own 7 figure home and yet you don't pay your afilliates on time:



That's surely something to be proud of. You are living high on the hog while not paying people you owe on time. I'm sure all of your affiliates will be happy to know that.

Honestly, I have nothing against NATS. I simply think software such as that is for programs that already have proven that they can afford and need such software, not for some newbie simply trying to get off the ground.

Apparently you know more than me though, so therefore SoS should seek only your advice, afterall he is now helping to pay for the lifestyle that you like to brag about.

ADG Webmaster
I replied to the same exact thing in the other thread. Doing this in two threads is getting pointless. As I said there, a number of programs and even some payment processors payout several weeks or a month after the period.

iwantchixx 07-16-2005 08:38 AM
Wait until you're making a profit off your site before going with affiliate software. Yeah, Paycom stats suck but people will deal with it. I know of a fairly big program that only migrated to internal stats just this past year and used paycom stats for over 2 years. This company was doing over $1mil in sales a year before switching over.

As long as the site converts and retains nobody will care if the stats suck. Money talks :)


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