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BVF 07-01-2010 08:35 AM

Wow!...Its been a good run but it really IS over...
 
I remember when I would visit my PO box every day because I didn't know what check would show up....I remember when my kids were with me, and I got back in the van with a handful of checks, I used to sing, "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas"........That's because it really DID feel like Christmas to get checks in the mail for doing no extra work...It was like icing on the cake.

Then in 2010 it collapsed......I don't even bother to check my mail even once a week these days and even then I'm mostly disappointed.....So I must give the official word that Affiliate Marketing for Adult is jive dead....

The ONLY way you're going to survive is if you produce your own product and have your own clientele to sell it to....You have to acquire and most importantly, KEEP your customers to survive...If it wasn't for my own product, I would've been out of business..........There is no reason for sites to exist to point out "new" sites anymore because there is now a website or clip store for every sexual niche you can imagine......Also, most people have already made up their minds about which sites are their favorites...It's almost like television or radio stations are today....Who the hell is putting out new networks besides Oprah?

I remember when I was out in the streets shooting girls and was envious of TGP owners who didn't have to do ANYTHING to make money in porn....They were able to live nice family lives and were free from the scorn of their wives or loved ones.....Now I'm glad as hell that I kept shooting porn....

I am a PORNOGRAPHER first and foremost and if you're not, it's going to be very hard on you from here on out.

Klen 07-01-2010 08:45 AM

I am TGP owner and i still make money for nothing,but i started on my network reconstruction and further traffic building to prevent negative effects of possible monetary damage.

BlackCrayon 07-01-2010 08:47 AM

lots of shit going down the tubes (haha) these days but i still have sponsors converting at 1:80 or so..but the only thing really keeping me going these days is the money i make in "mainstream".

IllTestYourGirls 07-01-2010 08:48 AM

We are hitting the bottom of the recession. We should see a turn around in the next few years.

Naechy 07-01-2010 08:59 AM

hey were able to live nice family lives and were free from the scorn of their wives or loved ones.....Now I'm glad as hell that I kept shooting porn.... :thumbsup :thumbsup

Agent 488 07-01-2010 09:03 AM

can't just throw up a banner anymore.

TurboAngel 07-01-2010 09:12 AM

When will you be back in NC?

MonsterMike 07-01-2010 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17296069)
We are hitting the bottom of the recession. We should see a turn around in the next few years.

Good to know its just a few years away...:winkwink:

Choker 07-01-2010 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17295960)
I remember when I would visit my PO box every day because I didn't know what check would show up....I remember when my kids were with me, and I got back in the van with a handful of checks, I used to sing, "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas"........That's because it really DID feel like Christmas to get checks in the mail for doing no extra work...It was like icing on the cake.

.

Priceless. You sound a lot like me, anything my kids wanted they got. errr not the same van you fucked those hoes in I hope? lol

WarChild 07-01-2010 09:19 AM

I think it's funny when people assume because their methods of promotion no longer work for them that everyone else must be in the same boat.

Here's some facts from my point of view:
- My income is up 20% over last year. For the 9th straight year running I'll have a comfortable income well in to the six figure mark.
- What was the lion share of my income two years ago represents less than 10% of this year's.
-I am doing less work, by a huge amount, today than I was a few years ago. I have all kinds of time for pet projects and programming again
- My overhead has plumetted. Between no longer hosting galleries, not having to buy or product content (sponsors are happy to supply) and a steady demand by qualified outsourced employees for steady jobs at low prices, my largest expense is domain registrations.
- I am still converting large "saturated" programs very well. TopBucks (1:650 YTD), Nastydollars (1:350), BangBros (1:360). Think about that for a second.

Now don't get me wrong. We're in a recession and the face of adult is certainly changing. Personally I think it's doing ME good. For every little guy affiliate who can't make his one or two sales a week now and vanishes, that's more potential customers for me. There are plenty of suckers on the interenet and more connecting each day. Perhaps it's time to change your game plan?

I mean, jesus christ guys. Even Teencat is making 6K a month and I'd be surprised if he can walk and talk at the same time he's so fucking stupid.

gotys 07-01-2010 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17295960)
I remember when I would visit my PO box every day because I didn't know what check would show up....I remember when my kids were with me, and I got back in the van with a handful of checks, I used to sing, "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas"........That's because it really DID feel like Christmas to get checks in the mail for doing no extra work...It was like icing on the cake.

Then in 2010 it collapsed......I don't even bother to check my mail even once a week these days and even then I'm mostly disappointed.....So I must give the official word that Affiliate Marketing for Adult is jive dead....

The ONLY way you're going to survive is if you produce your own product and have your own clientele to sell it to....You have to acquire and most importantly, KEEP your customers to survive...If it wasn't for my own product, I would've been out of business..........There is no reason for sites to exist to point out "new" sites anymore because there is now a website or clip store for every sexual niche you can imagine......Also, most people have already made up their minds about which sites are their favorites...It's almost like television or radio stations are today....Who the hell is putting out new networks besides Oprah?

I remember when I was out in the streets shooting girls and was envious of TGP owners who didn't have to do ANYTHING to make money in porn....They were able to live nice family lives and were free from the scorn of their wives or loved ones.....Now I'm glad as hell that I kept shooting porn....

I am a PORNOGRAPHER first and foremost and if you're not, it's going to be very hard on you from here on out.

Besides the fact that there is less money in the industry now, just about everything else in your post is waaaayyyyy far from truth.

Robbie 07-01-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296418)
I think it's funny when people assume because their methods of promotion no longer work for them that everyone else must be in the same boat.

Here's some facts from my point of view:
- My income is up 20% over last year. For the 9th straight year running I'll have a comfortable income well in to the six figure mark.
- What was the lion share of my income two years ago represents less than 10% of this year's.
-I am doing less work, by a huge amount, today than I was a few years ago. I have all kinds of time for pet projects and programming again
.
- I am still converting large "saturated" programs very well. TopBucks (1:650 YTD), Nastydollars (1:350), BangBros (1:360). Think about that for a second.

I'm not trying to get you to give away any secrets or anything...but in general terms, HOW did you get your income up 20% as an affiliate this year over last?
I'm pretty sure I saw you upset in a thread a while back when your submitter account at pichunter was suspended.

So that told me you were submitting galleries and possibly didn't have your own traffic source? Or do you own tgps or other types of freesites too?

I'm just curious, because I've been flat across the board for the last 2 years as an affiliate. Not losing any ground and not gaining any and working like a dog.
And I'm pretty sure I know every trick in the book. And the guys I know personally are real good too...and none of them are having the results you're having. Not through search engines, not through free sites, and damn sure not through tubes.

Are you doing mailers on the downlow or something? Give me some kind of generalization so I can rationalize your statement.

signupdamnit 07-01-2010 09:29 AM

Your words are giving me a bad vibe about your program. :( Should I start pulling my links to your program now or are you planning on sticking around and giving me a fair shake?

Barefootsies 07-01-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17295960)
The ONLY way you're going to survive is if you produce your own product and have your own clientele to sell it to....You have to acquire and most importantly, KEEP your customers to survive...If it wasn't for my own product, I would've been out of business..........


I am a PORNOGRAPHER first and foremost and if you're not, it's going to be very hard on you from here on out.


WarChild 07-01-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17296495)
I'm not trying to get you to give away any secrets or anything...but in general terms, HOW did you get your income up 20% as an affiliate this year over last?
I'm pretty sure I saw you upset in a thread a while back when your submitter account at pichunter was suspended.

So that told me you were submitting galleries and possibly didn't have your own traffic source? Or do you own tgps or other types of freesites too?

I'm just curious, because I've been flat across the board for the last 2 years as an affiliate. Not losing any ground and not gaining any and working like a dog.
And I'm pretty sure I know every trick in the book. And the guys I know personally are real good too...and none of them are having the results you're having. Not through search engines, not through free sites, and damn sure not through tubes.

Are you doing mailers on the downlow or something? Give me some kind of generalization so I can rationalize your statement.

I was never really upset that I lost my pichunter account. I haven't submitted galleries in more than two years now. I was pissed off that they closed that account, which I'd had for going on 10 years, over some stupid content bitch.

Why my income is up because instead of competing with a whole ton of people for a shrinking traffic pool (MGP), I've got a totally different traffic source that keeps growing and has far less competition. It's pretty simple really.

BlackCrayon 07-01-2010 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17296495)
I'm not trying to get you to give away any secrets or anything...but in general terms, HOW did you get your income up 20% as an affiliate this year over last?
I'm pretty sure I saw you upset in a thread a while back when your submitter account at pichunter was suspended.

So that told me you were submitting galleries and possibly didn't have your own traffic source? Or do you own tgps or other types of freesites too?

I'm just curious, because I've been flat across the board for the last 2 years as an affiliate. Not losing any ground and not gaining any and working like a dog.
And I'm pretty sure I know every trick in the book. And the guys I know personally are real good too...and none of them are having the results you're having. Not through search engines, not through free sites, and damn sure not through tubes.

Are you doing mailers on the downlow or something? Give me some kind of generalization so I can rationalize your statement.

im pretty sure hes into the tubes.

WarChild 07-01-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17296644)
im pretty sure hes into the tubes.

No, no, no. In case you haven't heard it's impossible to make money off tubes. Don't be foolish now.

Agent 488 07-01-2010 09:43 AM

adapt or die.

BlackCrayon 07-01-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296661)
No, no, no. In case you haven't heard it's impossible to make money off tubes. Don't be foolish now.

yeah i heard that too. people are spending their own money just to keep them up because free porn is important to functioning society.

Sabby 07-01-2010 09:50 AM

Pluto in Capricorn... has taken its toll...

Its a transition.


When is your birthdate.


Sabby:)

WarChild 07-01-2010 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17296780)
Pluto in Capricorn... has taken its toll...

Its a transition.


When is your birthdate.


Sabby:)

Your pie hole. Close it.

Barefootsies 07-01-2010 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296661)
No, no, no. In case you haven't heard it's impossible to make money off tubes. Don't be foolish now.



:thumbsup

2012 07-01-2010 09:58 AM



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WarChild 07-01-2010 10:01 AM

It's funny though, because in about 2001ish we used to sing that exact song coming back from the bank because the US/CAN exchange was amazing. $1.50+ Canadian for every US dollar. It really was Christmas!

Choker 07-01-2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296789)
Your pie hole. Close it.

No shit, is this girl real? Is she acting like a dumb bimbo because thats whats expected of her or is she really this anoying in real life?

Sabby 07-01-2010 10:02 AM

We had a good run with Sagitarius since 1995... this expanded everything..

Capricorn rules a whole new generation now... and the atmosphere changed.

Its all about the governement and big business taking over the internet.


Sabby:)

DateDoc 07-01-2010 10:03 AM

"Whether you think you can or think you can't, either way you are right" - Henry Ford

Nicky 07-01-2010 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17296661)
No, no, no. In case you haven't heard it's impossible to make money off tubes. Don't be foolish now.


brassmonkey 07-01-2010 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 17296850)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

kristin 07-01-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17296902)
We had a good run with Sagitarius since 1995... this expanded everything..

Capricorn rules a whole new generation now... and the atmosphere changed.

Its all about the governement and big business taking over the internet.


Sabby:)

Alright, you are the second person in my eight years in this industry going on ignore.

You provide nothing and it's not like we haven't all seen big tits before. Some accompany it with a nice ass too.

Sabby 07-01-2010 10:13 AM

if we all make it to 2024... ummm..lol.. funny era...


Sabby:)

Sabby 07-01-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17296961)
Alright, you are the second person in my eight years in this industry going on ignore.

You provide nothing and it's not like we haven't all seen big tits before. Some accompany it with a nice ass too.

ok:) byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

TurboAngel 07-01-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17296870)
No shit, is this girl real? Is she acting like a dumb bimbo because thats whats expected of her or is she really this anoying in real life?

I think it's a guy.

Sabby 07-01-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17296961)
Alright, you are the second person in my eight years in this industry going on ignore.

You provide nothing and it's not like we haven't all seen big tits before. Some accompany it with a nice ass too.

Your ugly and smoking is way gross... your on my ignore list also for sure... plus i am telling on you for my local heath watch omg.. nasty.



Sabby:)

2MuchMark 07-01-2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bvf (Post 17295960)
the only way you're going to survive is if you produce your own product and have your own clientele to sell it to....you have to acquire and most importantly, keep your customers to survive....

very true.

Barefootsies 07-01-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17297088)
Your ugly and smoking is way gross... your on my ignore list also for sure... plus i am telling on you for my local heath watch omg.. nasty.


Agent 488 07-01-2010 10:22 AM

i have an idea for a bareback creampie real street hooker site so i should be ok.

brassmonkey 07-01-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17297088)
Your ugly and smoking is way gross... your on my ignore list also for sure... plus i am telling on you for my local heath watch omg.. nasty.



Sabby:)

:1orglaugh i luv all yr parts :)

Nicky 07-01-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 17297069)
I think it's a guy.

Nope It isn't

Sabby 07-01-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17297449)
Nope It isn't

TurboAngel thinks I am a guy?

She was one on my main posters on nakedsmartchicks..

Sabby:)


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