brassmonkey

homework dude. that's health related the other is by choice 100 hiding muther fuckers

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Reading it again, it seems to me like you've become so fanatical about the issue that your brain is making things up. Where does it say that other women can't look under a veil?

Poindexterity

forcing someone to wear a certain garment is what attacks civil liberties.
this garment is used to make certain women understand that THIS is all they will ever amount to and they can hope to raise no further.

ban the fucker.

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moeloubani

so wait forcing someone to wear a certain garment is attacking civil liberties but forcing them to not wear that same garment is okay?

im against burqas in that i dont see the point but if someone wants to throw on a sheet and walk around i dont give a fuck they should be allowed to do just that

_Richard_

right, no i hear ya. we have so much more to be afraid of from a small portion of muslim women who chose to wear burkas, compared to some ominously chinese-looking males with a free pass to walk around with surgical masks on

i have no idea why i didn't see this before

potter

Thankfully the majority of people in the USA feel the same way. Because we pride ourselves on what this country was founded on which is freedom and civil liberty.

I'd be willing to bet the people who have voted yes are either not even in this country, or immature little shits like DWB and Amp who think the cops are out to get them and to be safe we need to see peoples faces out in public.

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I'm against Klan members wearing their hoods in public too.

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Trick or treat?

AmeliaG

There are a zillion perfectly workable biometrics, such as fingerprints, which can be used to identify a person. I'm pretty sure American banks have not been having lots of problems with mystery muslim women making unauthorized withdrawals.

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brassmonkey

no its not iv'e seen a few clowns bank no problems. santas as well

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When in Rome do as the Romans do. When in the US do as we do.

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BFT3K

Is it dark in here?



I feel so liberated!

Earlier today I accidentally walked into a wall, again.

Did Casper wear black?

No, he was a friendly white ghost.

Oh yeah, that's right.... who wants to get their face painted?

Just kidding, I know we have to wear these stupid veil at all times.

Religious stupidity is fu#&ing great!

potter

What don't you understand about freedom?

Listen, I don't like klan members, I don't like them at all. I don't like the westboro people, I'd love to see them all thrown off a cliff.

But that doesn't mean I want their rights taken away.

Because my freedom and the freedom of people in this country is more important than silencing those I don't like.

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I guess the balance comes down to what is seen as the greater good.

It is only a small sacrifice for some to give it up, to protect the rights of oppressed women who are forced to wear it.

BFT3K

Klan hoods are equally retarded.

I'd be happy if both idiotic costumes were banned.

Except for on Halloween of course, or maybe a costume party, or perhaps on "Idiotic Douche Bag Day" or....

brassmonkey

difference is the asian isn't going to call you into a holy war for lifting the mask. if i was airport security id tell them to pass on. i wouldn't want them to come back and blow my ass up.

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No... There is no "except". You either get freedom or you don't.

Why do you think the FSC takes the side of freedom of speech in every instance, even for the assholes who we'd wish would shut the hell up? Because it's important to protect the right, for all of us. You don't make laws that are only for the cool kids. The law pertains to everyone. We are a free country. Not "a free country except".

It's like burning the flag. A lot of people would like to see that made illegal. But the fact it IS LEGAL is a tribute to how great this country is. Because we are FREE to express and say what we want.

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You are never free to do whatever the fuck you want.

You aren't allowed to shoot off fireworks wherever you want for example, or even posses them in many states. That's not to say fireworks should be illegal, but you can't walk into the local Kmart and start blowing shit up.

Same with this idiotic costume. It can be perfectly fine in your own home or place of worship, but it doesn't have to be legal in public.... except for on Halloween, as I have already mentioned.

Hey, did anyone get a description of the shooter? Yeah, it was an unidentifiable individual wearing a black robe and hood - go get em!

blackmonsters

As if bank robbers don't wear ski mask anyway.



I guess you slept through this one as it played out live on TV.







Ban Ski Mask!

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Yes, because we have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Your rights end when you're infringing on mine. You have the right to be an ass in public, but you don't have the right to disturb the public. It's not that hard to comprehend.

Going to the store and blowing shit up.... Really, do you honestly think that adds to a point you were making?

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fuck those god damn barbarians and their shitty fucking religion

brassmonkey

we have a face for a reason. they deny themselves from being social. a woman has feature a man wants to see its not always lust.

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BFT3K

I think EVERY religion is retarded, so I am not picking on this one in particular.

Freedom is not a one way street, someone always pays.. Think about it.

potter

You are picking on one in particular. The point is all religions have the same rights, as all people have the same rights, as all skin colors have the same rights, as all sexes have the same rights, etc etc etc... Get it, we all have the same rights.

I don't like any religion, I think they're all morons. But just because I do not like them, doesn't mean I want to take away rights or force them to act a certain way. Because my freedom and the freedom of the people in this country is more important to me than silencing some asshole I don't like. I think he should still be allowed to be his asshole self, because I believe in freedom over oppression.

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BFT3K

What if I start a religion that believes it's okay to eat your neighbors pets?

Hey, it's religious freedom dude! You gotta roll with it, right?

potter

No... I just fucking explained this. Jesus, how do you not understand? It's not rocket science.

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BFT3K

My hat looks okay.



Does mine look like a chocolate cake?

Well, at least we can be identified...

potter

There's no way you're 46.

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moeloubani

The greater good? The idea of things like free speech and freedom of religion is that they protect the minority, not the majority. The majority can protect themselves - the constitution protects the others.

irwin99

Being Muslim should be banned

AmeliaG

The United States of America is supposed to be better than that.

As a woman, I am disgusted by men who think they can legislate what women need. Women should get to make their own choices. Women in the USA, who choose to dress a certain way, have a choice. That said, I can at least respect that misguided male attitude as coming from a logical place. The people who are scaredy-cat about all the big bad Muslim chick bank robbers have no connection with anything which has ever happened.

The majority would not suffer terribly much, if all smut-mongers were rounded up, but I assume most people posting here would prefer that did not happen.

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it is in china

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Poindexterity

you have a point. it shouldnt be a criminal offense where one does time, merely a hefty ticket sorta thing.

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Poindexterity

i agree that if someone WANTS TO, sure.
I'd love to know the percentage of women worldwide who would wear the fucker if women ran the religion.

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Sausage

Now that even men are dressing up in the full body face covering burka with the sole intention of carrying out suicide bombings, it should be banned for security sake. Same reason you can't wear a helmet into a bank ... though the consequences are often more dire.

shahab6

yes they should ban it in the USA, think about it, if a women goes to a Muslim county they have to wear it.

But on the other side it can back fire, they can make that anther excuse to attack USA.

Right now its bad timing to do it, maybe in 15- 20 years..

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selena

I can't believe this is even a question in the US. As long as the wearer complies with reasonable requests to show their face when necessary for security, or when everyone else has to (eg, my bank won't let you wear a hat or sunglasses inside), then they should be able to walk down the street and otherwise go about their business wearing one.

To me, this is profiling and religious persecution. No one would be saying a thing if I walked down the street with my Under Armor Cold Gear Face Mask on.

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Speaking of sheets. If you put on a KKK hood and drove your car around the city, I'd bet $100 you would eventually be pulled over by the police. They would find a reason why, and if you refused to remove that mask, they would find another reason to make a problem for you. Could be something as simple as stating reckless driving, as you are unable to properly see while driving.

Immature shits. It's called experience. Have you ever left your own country? Ever been to the Middle East or an all Mulsim country? I'm guessing no.

I've been dealing with these extreme Muslim fucks for 15 years abroad. You have NO idea what is going on and how they are inching their way into your system. Like Hispanics, they are taking over your country. Enjoy.

I won't call you immature, but I will call you naive.

George Carlin said it best, the only freedom you really have is to choose paper or plastic.

But if you disagree, go out in your back yard right now, assuming you own a house, and start letting off fireworks. Oh, you don't have any because they are probably illegal where you live. OK, so go in the front yard and make a big fucking bon fire. Call your buddies over, open some booze, turn on some music and kick it. Let me know how it works out.

If you don't have a yard, take off to the nearest government building wearing nothing but speedo swimming trunks. Don't even put on shoes. Just walk in and stand there in the lobby. Either you have freedom or you don't. Right? Even if that means freedom to go to the bank in your trunks and a ski mask. As stupid as it would be, that is freedom. Let me know how that works out.

Well, when going into public areas, they should. Banks, police stations, schools, gov buildings. There is no need for them INSIDE.

You know the old signs, NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO SERVICE? Add NO SKI MASK and NO BURKA. It will happen sooner or later.

WHAT!?!? You are taking away my rights by saying I have to wear shoes in your building! That is fucked up! FREEDOM!!!! Now you demand I wear a shirt!?!?! FUCK YOU, I AM FREE!!! I AM AMERICAN! GET 'ER DONE!

That was hypothetical to show just one reason why a person needs to show their face.

Reading is difficult, I know.

It's happening all over the world. You give Muslims an inch, they want a mile and want a holy war if you don't give it to them. Good for France and any nation that follows.

I don't care what flag you fly or what imaginary man you believe in, but everyone plays by the same rules. Period.

If some repressed woman wants to wear her burka around and cover her face, that is fine. But, take it off when you drive and when you enter a public or government building. You don't get to wear it when you take a photo for your license or passport. You must remove it when any law enforcement asks you to. That is a fair solution, but it's not good enough for them.

Meanwhile, their good Muslim husbands husbands were flip flops, shorts and tank-tops. Equality!

selena

Or even our wanna-be government. I am far, far more threatened by that nutcase Sarah Palin than I am by a chick who wants to walk around draped in fabric.

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I'm surprised anyone is dumb enough (yes even by GFY standards) to respond to Moe's retarded pro Muslim rhetoric.

Oh, and some of you can stop with the "high moral ground" nonsense. How naive do you have to be to believe something like that can exist without collateral damage?

This makes you legally insane and if you're threatened by Palin, I can't imagine how you feel about having someone incompetent running this country and someone like Pelosi having ANY authority to make decisions.

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DWB

While I was only giving a hypothetical example, it seems it really happens. But more so to rob the bank. But because they are allowed to walk into a bank wearing this, it opens things right up for this very issue.

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Fifth Muslim-disguised bank robbery in six months


A bank robbery Thursday in which a man used a Muslim woman?s religious garment as a disguise is not the first such robbery police have seen.


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Muslim disguise in bank robbery not a first, police say

A bank robbery Thursday in which a man used a Muslim woman's religious garment as a disguise is not the first such robbery police have seen.

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Jail for robbers who disguised themselves in Muslim dress

Two men who disguised themselves in clothing traditionally worn by Muslim women and robbed security guards carrying cash to and from banks were jailed for a total of more than seven years yesterday.

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Men in Muslim woman's garb robs bank

Two armed men disguised as Muslim women in burqas held up a bank in Sarajevo and got away with some $40000

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Google is full of these. Had no idea.

Mutt

Don't let them into the country in the first place. Once they're citizens they have to be treated like everybody else.

So many of them are our enemies, our men and women of the armed forces are risking their lives wading through the bullshit these idiots live their lives by. I don't think it's unfair to block them all from entering the country. We're at war with how many different strains of Islam from how many different countries? Why should we take the risk that even one of the 'good ones' might turn out to be a terrorist?

Or a better idea - let's make all retarded religious garb from the Middle Ages prohibited by law. Veils, burquas, Turbans, that Orthodox Jewish crap, yamulkies - all of it so nobody gets their feelings hurt. Replace all that shit with baseball caps, they can put an Islamic crescent moon and star logo or Jewish star on the front of the cap and wear a t-shirt or hoodie with Kiss Me I'm Muslim on it.

Nobody ever has a problem with the Amish - why, because they behave themselves and cause nobody any problems and make nice blankets and fruit preserves. If Muslims would behave like the Amish nobody would have a bad thing to say about them.

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That is the issue. They get a pass in most places.

Just walking around, I could care less. I see it no different than hat or glasses. It's when they NEED to take it off and they think they shouldn't have to, that's an issue.

They want special treatment. That's where it rubs me the wrong way.

rogueteens

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006...curity-threats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_...on_Beshenivsky - A UK WPC killed by a griminal gang, one of the murderers is believed to have escaped the country by dressing in a burqa and pretending to be female.

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You're probably right.

A little off topic, we have a lot of muslims sex tourists coming... POURING into Thailand. They go to their own bars, for Arabs, and drink, get shit faced, fuck whores, and fuck ladyboys. They literally dance on the tables, holding hands with each other (men with men) until the sun is up and the heat starts. It's madness. You're not allowed to film or take a photo anywhere near some of these places or you get pounced on by security.

When the morning comes, you can hear the Muslim temple and that god damn prayer they blast over the loudspeaker, but the temples are mostly empty. All the guys are raging in the bars.

Good muslim men.

These are the same guys who make their women wear those stupid fucking things.

They also beat a lot of the girls here and try to force them into Islam. Good stuff.

selena

I don't think they should get special treatment in the sense of not having to reveal at all. I do think that it should be a woman that they reveal to. But in my mind, there is a big difference between saying that we are banning something altogether vs we are requiring mandatory revealing in security-sensitive situations.

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Don't let them into the country in the first place. Once they're citizens they have to be treated like everybody else.

So many of them are our enemies, our men and women of the armed forces are risking their lives wading through the bullshit these idiots live their lives by. I don't think it's unfair to block them all from entering the country. We're at war with how many different strains of Islam from how many different countries? Why should we take the risk that even one of the 'good ones' might turn out to be a terrorist?

Or a better idea - let's make all retarded religious garb from the Middle Ages prohibited by law. Veils, burquas, Turbans, that Orthodox Jewish crap, yamulkies - all of it so nobody gets their feelings hurt. Replace all that shit with baseball caps, they can put an Islamic crescent moon and star logo or Jewish star on the front of the cap and wear a t-shirt or hoodie with Kiss Me I'm Muslim on it.

Nobody ever has a problem with the Amish - why, because they behave themselves and cause nobody any problems and make nice blankets and fruit preserves. If Muslims would behave like the Amish nobody would have a bad thing to say about them.

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