why trafficshop don't send me what i payed for ? - GoFuckYourself.com

theloller · 04-15-2011, 06:22 AM

hi, i'm buying some traffic from trafficshop, just because i have a lot of trouble and right now i can't promote my site.

i've ordered 50/hour but i'm receiving this:

00:00:00
8,77% (42)
01:00:00
7,52% (36)
02:00:00
5,85% (28)
03:00:00
6,26% (30)
04:00:00
6,89% (33)
05:00:00
6,47% (31)
06:00:00
5,64% (27)
07:00:00
6,47% (31)
08:00:00
5,64% (27)
09:00:00
6,47% (31)
10:00:00
7,10% (34)
11:00:00
8,14% (39)
12:00:00
5,22% (25)
13:00:00
6,26% (30)
14:00:00
6,47% (31)
15:00:00
0,84% (4)

(copy/past from google analytics)
and i have some returning and some from other referrals.

i don't understand why i'm not getting what i'm paying for

and this is what i'm getting from trafficshop stats
2011-04-15 50 50 50 51 49 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 20

wth -.-
i'm doing something wrong ?

p.s.
i've already sended to support two mails and never got an answer.

Barry-xlovecam · 04-15-2011, 07:16 AM

JavaScript OFF? G-A is in JavaScript.

Mike Dutch · 04-15-2011, 07:18 AM

Did you start with contacting them?

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2011, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

JavaScript OFF? G-A is in JavaScript.

if he was getting 40/50 that would be 20% of users with javascript turned off, and that would be an insanely unrealistic high percentage of users, the fact he is getting more than that means it likely isn't the answer..

a slightly more realistic answer might be that his Google analytics code is low on the page and that percentage of users closes the page before it loads.

Lets be realistic here , the surfers being bought are being tricked in some way to get to his page ( i.e. skim or popunder ). so if surfer is clicking on text "tranny love slaves" and goes to his site that has nothing to do with trannies , he likely closes it pretty quick.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-15-2011, 08:20 AM

where is your ga code on the page ?

try moving the code to the very top of the page

stephane76 · 04-15-2011, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

a slightly more realistic answer might be that his Google analytics code is low on the page and that percentage of users closes the page before it loads.

that's exactly what i was going to post.

iamtam · 04-15-2011, 08:45 AM

bots, hit.

C H R I S · 04-15-2011, 11:18 AM

Your welcome to contact me with your account name.

CaptainWolfy · 04-15-2011, 12:11 PM

what cms are u using on your ragebang?

JFK · 04-15-2011, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C H R I S 2.0

Your welcome to contact me with your account name.

Chris is on the job

Tempest · 04-15-2011, 12:52 PM

Not every click a traffic broker thinks they sent you is going to arrive on your site. It's been that way since the beginning of time. Some will be bots. Some will stop the page load/close the browser before your stats counter ever counts them. And things like google analytics aren't allways accurate.. You should look at the raw website stats to see what the real inbound traffic is.

theloller · 04-15-2011, 03:51 PM

i've already sent two mails, but i've contacted chris directly on the forum.

on ragebang i'm using adultvideoscript

google code is in the bottom on the page ... so it could be an explanation ... but for half of the traffic ?

and the first bunch of traffic was right, 48 / 51 hour ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Not every click a traffic broker thinks they sent you is going to arrive on your site. It's been that way since the beginning of time. Some will be bots. Some will stop the page load/close the browser before your stats counter ever counts them. And things like google analytics aren't allways accurate.. You should look at the raw website stats to see what the real inbound traffic is.

it's ok to lost traffic, but right now, in the last hour i had 33 visits (66%) ...
and just want to know if it's a normal thing ... just to know how to plan next traffic ....

i have a lot of family and work troubles ... so i don't have much time right now (and also much money) :\

thank you all

Choker · 04-15-2011, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theloller

i've already sent two mails, but i've contacted chris directly on the forum.

on ragebang i'm using adultvideoscript

google code is in the bottom on the page ... so it could be an explanation ... but for half of the traffic ?

and the first bunch of traffic was right, 48 / 51 hour ...

it's ok to lost traffic, but right now, in the last hour i had 33 visits (66%) ...
and just want to know if it's a normal thing ... just to know how to plan next traffic ....

i have a lot of family and work troubles ... so i don't have much time right now (and also much money) :\

thank you all

I did very controlled tests with GA code on different positions and yes if your code is at the bottom you could lose as much as 35%

theloller · 04-15-2011, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

I did very controlled tests with GA code on different positions and yes if your code is at the bottom you could lose as much as 35%

people are really fast to close windows O.o

so, if it's this the problem ... nevermind, i don't care about numbers on ga, just want to be shure to not lose traffic for some problem on trafficshop or for my mistake

rowan · 04-15-2011, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

I did very controlled tests with GA code on different positions and yes if your code is at the bottom you could lose as much as 35%

+1

Most browsers will only do a certain number of simultaneous connections, so if you have a TGP or tube with a shitload of images and your externally sourced javascript is at the bottom it may not be executed for several seconds...

Most brokers say that any issues about discrepancies like this must be resolved with server logs, because they're the only reliable method of registering that an IP from <referer> loaded your site. Some browsers also have referers blocked, and some surfers will close the window as they see the status bar changing from tubesite.com to fredstraffic.com to unrelatedbuyersite.com. So even with server logs you will never see 100%.

ilnjscb · 04-15-2011, 04:58 PM

Do any traffic vendors have filters so that you only get potential consumers who want to be there or is that impossible?

Jakez · 04-15-2011, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Do any traffic vendors have filters so that you only get potential consumers who want to be there or is that impossible?

If the link says "Black Teens" or the image has a black teen in it and someone clicks the link, I'm just guessing but, they aren't clicking it looking for hardcore gay porn.

C H R I S · 04-15-2011, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theloller

i've already sent two mails, but i've contacted chris directly on the forum.

on ragebang i'm using adultvideoscript

google code is in the bottom on the page ... so it could be an explanation ... but for half of the traffic ?

and the first bunch of traffic was right, 48 / 51 hour ...

it's ok to lost traffic, but right now, in the last hour i had 33 visits (66%) ...
and just want to know if it's a normal thing ... just to know how to plan next traffic ....

i have a lot of family and work troubles ... so i don't have much time right now (and also much money) :\

thank you all

Never got a message from you - you can email / ICQ me anytime. I'm alwayts gald to help, answer question or help manage campaigns, etc.

We send 100% of hits to all orders. This is our core business so I can guarantee you there are no shenanigans. We send traffic to most of the largest programs and many have been working with us for years.

Third party counters will rarely match our logs exactly- even GA will have differences as Choker has spoke of.

Have a great weekend!

theloller · 04-16-2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C H R I S 2.0

Never got a message from you - you can email / ICQ me anytime. I'm alwayts gald to help, answer question or help manage campaigns, etc.

We send 100% of hits to all orders. This is our core business so I can guarantee you there are no shenanigans. We send traffic to most of the largest programs and many have been working with us for years.

Third party counters will rarely match our logs exactly- even GA will have differences as Choker has spoke of.

Have a great weekend!

i used support at trafficshop
btw thanx, i know that you are professional,and in fact i bought in the meantime another 10$, and i thought GA was really accurate.
so, nevermind my complain

thank you again, but my weekend will be a bad one :\

thanks all for the answers

04-15-2011, 06:22 AM	#1
theloller Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 87	why trafficshop don't send me what i payed for ? hi, i'm buying some traffic from trafficshop, just because i have a lot of trouble and right now i can't promote my site. i've ordered 50/hour but i'm receiving this: 00:00:00 8,77% (42) 01:00:00 7,52% (36) 02:00:00 5,85% (28) 03:00:00 6,26% (30) 04:00:00 6,89% (33) 05:00:00 6,47% (31) 06:00:00 5,64% (27) 07:00:00 6,47% (31) 08:00:00 5,64% (27) 09:00:00 6,47% (31) 10:00:00 7,10% (34) 11:00:00 8,14% (39) 12:00:00 5,22% (25) 13:00:00 6,26% (30) 14:00:00 6,47% (31) 15:00:00 0,84% (4) (copy/past from google analytics) and i have some returning and some from other referrals. i don't understand why i'm not getting what i'm paying for and this is what i'm getting from trafficshop stats 2011-04-15 50 50 50 51 49 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 20 wth -.- i'm doing something wrong ? p.s. i've already sended to support two mails and never got an answer. __________________ RageBang.com Last edited by theloller; 04-15-2011 at 06:24 AM..

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Not every click a traffic broker thinks they sent you is going to arrive on your site. It's been that way since the beginning of time. Some will be bots. Some will stop the page load/close the browser before your stats counter ever counts them. And things like google analytics aren't allways accurate.. You should look at the raw website stats to see what the real inbound traffic is.

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