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Old 04-17-2011, 01:24 AM   #1
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:2cents Do you block geographic region traffic ?

We have recently started blocking traffic from the following countries.

Afghanistan
Algeria
China
Iran
Iraq
Nigeria
Sudan
Thailand


Do you block traffic from any specific country on your servers ?
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:27 AM   #2
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:28 AM   #3
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:29 AM   #4
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Our company.
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:32 AM   #5
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:33 AM   #6
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:34 AM   #7
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I'm guessing you are in Thailand or China then ?
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:40 AM   #8
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I'm guessing you are in Thailand or China then ?
Yep, why you block me? Could of done biz for all you know
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:43 AM   #9
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"Oops! Google Chrome could not find siteads.com.au"

Ooops I lost business
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:45 AM   #10
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Yep, why you block me? Could of done biz for all you know
It's an experiment. We get so much crap traffic from those regions that losing a couple of potential sales as opposed to dealing with any traffic from those regions is seen as worthwhile.

When I am in Thailand I use a VPN anyway, I know DWB does to some extent as he has said as much on the forums.
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:01 AM   #11
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If the revenue coming from a country isn't worth the bother only a fool wouldn't.

Problem with so many is they're obsessed with the number of surfers to see that 10% ish of them are a total waste of time. Might even be a lot higher.
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:42 AM   #12
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Resources are so cheap they're nearly unlimited. I don't worry about "wasting" bandwidth. Now, if a country doesn't generate sales and a disproportionate number of hack attempts come from that country then I block them.
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:46 AM   #13
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redirect them to brokers and made something (0.05~0.1 per k) if you have lots of traffic from there. 1mill = 50$/100$
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:51 AM   #14
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:51 AM   #15
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Why would you?
If anything - you could be clever and serve/sell region specific ads or content.
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Yes.... but not always, depends on the traffic volume and some Countries wont join a niche and some search terms wont pay for crap. If you can sell it off, great.. but sometimes it's just easier to block them so the spam bots, brute force attacks, hacks, credit card fraud, etc is completely gone from those regions rather than trying to filter out the good with the bad.
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:14 AM   #17
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Most programs that block regions do it because they have models working there and need to make some effort at least to protect their anonymity.
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From what I've seen it doesn't really work...

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Old 04-17-2011, 02:12 PM   #19
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It depends. You would be INSANE to block those kind of geographies if youre sending on life time with free trials because sooner or later, those countries may become emerging markets, perhaps even Iran/Iraq.

What happens then is that their disposable incomes rise, they get CCs and suddenly start upgrading. Thats what ive recently found with a lot of Indian users, some of whom signed up years ago and are starting to buy subs.

Ive also recently found this to be the case with certain GEOs on dating sites, especially AFF which is suddenly upgrading a lot of asian and in particular Indian, Malaysian and Thai users. Infact, not sure why youre blocking Thailand.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:51 PM   #20
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Most programs that block regions do it because they have models working there and need to make some effort at least to protect their anonymity.
That seems like quite a bit of effort just to keep the girls anonymous. Are you talking about entire countries, or specific regions inside of countries?
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:29 PM   #21
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I block everything with a refferer .XXX domainname.
Only scammers and cp traffic from .xxx domains is my experience block .xxx saves a bunch of time and money.
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Iran, Islamic Republic of
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That is a 0.5387% click thru (with the Ayatollah Card in hand :P (useless if they cannot actually see the adult website)).

If the Greens succeed in Iran that might actually turn out to be a good market ...

I got girls for them http://www.xlovecam.com/webcam-sex-c...tml?idp=722351


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Old 04-18-2011, 02:07 AM   #24
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It depends. You would be INSANE to block those kind of geographies if youre sending on life time with free trials because sooner or later, those countries may become emerging markets, perhaps even Iran/Iraq.

What happens then is that their disposable incomes rise, they get CCs and suddenly start upgrading. Thats what ive recently found with a lot of Indian users, some of whom signed up years ago and are starting to buy subs.

Ive also recently found this to be the case with certain GEOs on dating sites, especially AFF which is suddenly upgrading a lot of asian and in particular Indian, Malaysian and Thai users. Infact, not sure why youre blocking Thailand.
What if you go broke or jump out of adult before hell freezes over?

The "I send them somewhere else" = "I can't bill them, doubt if the next guy can. But who cares I earn a few bucks."

Shows the level of honesty of some. Assuming the next guy can not bill them either.

Concentrate on selling to the markets we can sell to and not squeezing a few bucks out of those we can't sell to.
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When I am in Thailand I use a VPN anyway, I know DWB does to some extent as he has said as much on the forums.
I do when I'm working and it will stay connected.


I'm also looking for something to redirect a lot of these countries to. Vietnam, India, China, Indonesia.... if anyone would like to suggest a place to send them and would rather not post it here, please contact me privately (info in sig). I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Iran, Islamic Republic of
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That is a 0.5387% click thru (with the Ayatollah Card in hand :P (useless if they cannot actually see the adult website)).

If the Greens succeed in Iran that might actually turn out to be a good market ...

I got girls for them http://www.xlovecam.com/webcam-sex-c...tml?idp=722351

Those girls are going to get stoned to death.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:23 AM   #27
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Concentrate on selling to the markets we can sell to and not squeezing a few bucks out of those we can't sell to.
Well it depends on how youre treating them but id consider this probably the wrong time to be thinking along those lines. It also depends where youre trying to convert them but if its adult traffic that can work well on dating and you sent them to adult dating with a strong database on those specific geos, it can work well.

On AFF, purely as an example, you should factor in a number of considerations:

(1) On the % deal, you get a few cents income from male/female "low paying" signups regardless of whether they convert to paid.

(2) The consensus is that the dollar is going to remain and become increasingly weak over the longer term whilst emerging market currencies are likely to appreciate, especially the asian currencies which of course reduces the purchase price for them.

(3) In many asian economies, especially the largest like India and China, GDP per capita and personal & disposable incomes are rising as fast as access to payment methods and credit card use.

(4) The larger the number of webmasters adopting the view, the larger the community base for those geos and therefore the larger the chance of upgrading them.

In this way you can view your emerging market sign ups, on lifetime revshares as an investment that might help offset any downturn from western markets if the shit hits the fan.

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