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|  05-13-2011, 12:37 AM | #1 | 
| Likes Pie Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn 
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				 |  Rev share or PPS, who has the numbers? Has anyone made a no-bs database of how well different sponsors retain customers? Maybe it's not even possible (since I imagine it depends on how you sell their product), but whenever I signup with a new sponsor, I always sit and ponder if I should go for revenue sharing or pay per signup.  I usually end up going with revenue sharing and eventually switch to PPS if the sponsor is not retaining the client.  | 
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|  05-13-2011, 12:40 AM | #2 | |
| Registered User Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA 
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|  05-13-2011, 01:08 AM | #3 | 
| ... Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2003 
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				 | With the state of the industry these days I would always go to PPS. You never know when a program gets out of business or stops paying affiliates, so it's better to cash in while you can instead of going for long-term rebill revenue. | 
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|  05-13-2011, 01:56 AM | #4 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 
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				 | Revshare... Only revshare can get you to a point where you send 50,417 uniques and you generate a turnover of $11,373 in less than 20 days.... So yeah it takes 2-3 months to get to that point, but once you are rolling...   
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|  05-13-2011, 01:59 AM | #5 | 
| Likes Pie Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn 
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				 | Those are some pretty awesome numbers, what program is that and how are you promoting it? :D | 
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|  05-13-2011, 02:03 AM | #6 | |
| bored Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com 
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|  05-13-2011, 02:23 AM | #7 | 
| Likes Pie Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn 
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				 | Yea I am not talking about cam sites. Regular porn (or freaky shit for that matter). Last edited by Markul; 05-13-2011 at 02:23 AM.. Reason: Don't know why I always write CAM instead of cam lol | 
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|  05-13-2011, 02:33 AM | #8 | 
| Please dont fuck animals Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV 
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				 | AFF has paid me 7 figures on revshare, and when traffic falls for various reasons I still get paid because of the recurring billing until I get traffic levels raised again. With PPS you get more up front, but if your traffic dies you arent making anything. And you only get paid once for a signup that may stay a member for several months or even a year. 
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|  05-13-2011, 02:37 AM | #9 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 
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				 | I think your approach of trying revshare first then switching if the retention is not so good is a pretty good approach already! | 
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|  05-13-2011, 04:42 AM | #10 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami 
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 You'll be surprised of some of them, some of the largest players have the shittiest member areas ever; when that happens i usually pick PPS or i move on. Lots of updates, content quantity, content delivery options (downloads, streams, mobile...), customer service friendly, good hosting etc etc.... i go for rev share 
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|  05-13-2011, 05:58 AM | #11 | 
| Likes Pie Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn 
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				 | Good pointers, I should start to do that. Thanks CT! | 
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|  05-13-2011, 06:47 AM | #12 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 
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				 | revshare can make the most but these days stuff is too shady to push revshare at most programs 
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|  05-13-2011, 07:02 AM | #13 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless 
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				 | I have told many affiliates this and only a few have listened.  When you find a program that you want to promote because they have the sites/niches that you want do your self a favor and use Both PPS and Rev.  Split 70% or so PPS and the rest Rev.  Then once the rev starts to build change  the split to closer to 50/50 and then reverse it when the Rev has passed the PPS amount. Or just go with Rev 100% 
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|  05-13-2011, 08:13 AM | #14 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brasil 
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				 | not bad at all... 
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