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Old 07-05-2011, 02:57 PM   #51
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Vince is really taking things forward, good move to get him on board!

The negativity in this thread is astonishing.

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Old 07-05-2011, 03:01 PM   #52
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Is it all sold out or is there anything left? I noticed that Nalem's Alexa shot up when Vince was brought onboard. He's a big name!
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:05 PM   #53
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Thanks for the quick deal Vince
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:47 PM   #54
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Are you stupid?

No one is MAKING you pay.
they seem to think they can make me pay for removing me out of a video...
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they seem to think they can make me pay for removing me out of a video...
Yeah, but they are not MAKING you pay... I mean, if you dont wanna pay, just stay in the video with a big ( I AM PRO... ) .XXX watermark on it...

Seems fair to me?
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Yeah, but they are not MAKING you pay... I mean, if you dont wanna pay, just stay in the video with a big )I AM PRO...) .XXX watermark on it...

Seems fair to me?
Fair to me is to see how far I can stick that camera than
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All it takes is a step to one side when the camera crew comes, whats the biggy?
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All it takes is a step to one side when the camera crew comes, whats the biggy?
paying to be removed like I said earlier, pretty ridiculous
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paying to be removed like I said earlier, pretty ridiculous
I think its pretty fair. It requires labor.
With that said, nice talking to you Vince, thanks for the great deals!

Since Vince came on board this has become a legit company.
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So yes, if you happen to be in the video and dont want to be seen in it, it can be removed and we will have an easy login and pay method for this to happen.
hmmm, the problem is, I'm insanely good looking and tend to get filmed way more than your average joe. So, even if its only a few $'s per removal its going to cost me a fortune


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I've signed 10 year contracts with JFK and MIKEB so if anyone else takes pictures of my lovely mug, they have to pay royalties to these fine gentlemen.
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I think its pretty fair. It requires labor.
With that said, nice talking to you Vince, thanks for the great deals!

Since Vince came on board this has become a legit company.
disagree...
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:04 PM   #63
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fuck you shitbag vince russo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nick. If you had a sitdown and got to know Vince Russo I think you'd see where im coming from. He's a cool guy and knows his shit.

It really does make sence.

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Yes.. We can black out or blur an indvidual in a video clip. But becasue it is labor intensive this will be done for a "small fee". Another aspect of our biz model we feel is a win win for everyone.

So yes, if you happen to be in the video and dont want to be seen in it, it can be removed and we will have an easy login and pay method for this to happen.
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I assume this was directed at me: no, I have not but plan on popping my cherry next year. I asked you because I believe you or the poster NALEM has stated that if an individual does not want their image to be on your site that it will be taken down and I was curious if the same courtesy was extended to video as well. That's all
WTF?

So you post a sign at a show and that gives you full right to do as you please? Please, what a fucking joke Its called THE JOB. You don't get paid just to hold a camera in your hands, you have to edit and respect the people that are there.

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Yay! another reason not to attend. A fucking arrogant dickhead is running around making HD videos of people who don't want to be video taped.
No shit. they charge a "small fee" to remove you from their video?

If I was at a show and saw your sign saying im going to be video taped, I would turn around and go home.

+1 for JFK and baddog on this. anytime I've asked to have them remove a picture they did.
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Nick. If you had a sitdown and got to know Vince Russo I think you'd see where im coming from. He's a cool guy and knows his shit.

It really does make sence.

my man,

you always have my respect...
yet if someone puts a cam in my face at a show and than charges me to remove that pretty thing..?

tell me... you have my respect... why would I ever pay?
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if i ever see vince russo at a show = kick to his balls.

fuck that guy and fuck xxxx!
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my man,

you always have my respect...
yet if someone puts a cam in my face at a show and than charges me to remove that pretty thing..?

tell me... you have my respect... why would I ever pay?
You pay for the labor bro.. Remember labor is involved.
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Unlike a photo which can simply be removed upon request you cant just remove an entire video because a person doesnt like it.

Me as a paying advertiser would not like this. I lose on the ad space I bought on the video if it was taken down just casue one person doesnt want to be seen.

So what needs to be done is an actual video edit. To black out a face it takes labor. And labor costs money.


Im sure those who really dont want to be in a video are more than willing to pay for that labor.
Sounds fair if you really think about it. I think its only like 60 bucks.

Fair.
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You pay for the labor bro.. Remember labor is involved.
I praise labor daily, sorry... 24/7! yet if I see a cam in my face at a show that I dont like?
It might end up somewhere else...

sorry hate being charged for being pretty
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I praise labor daily, sorry... 24/7! yet if I see a cam in my face at a show that I dont like?
It might end up somewhere else...

sorry hate being charged for being pretty
I'm pretty sure I remember reading laws about this... as long as you tell the camera man to leave you alone and they come back, you are allowed to "remove" the camera from your presence as long as you are not intentionally trying to cause damage
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Unlike a photo which can simply be removed upon request you cant just remove an entire video because a person doesnt like it.

Me as a paying advertiser would not like this. I lose on the ad space I bought on the video if it was taken down just casue one person doesnt want to be seen.

So what needs to be done is an actual video edit. To black out a face it takes labor. And labor costs money.


Im sure those who really dont want to be in a video are more than willing to pay for that labor.
Sounds fair if you really think about it. I think its only like 60 bucks.

Fair.
you know me, im sure 99,99% knows me...
So now I am at a show... video.film in my face...

Do you actually think affiliates want to talk to me? be exposed..?

not sure what the main purpose is... but yet again... it forces private gatherings again..
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I'm pretty sure I remember reading laws about this... as long as you tell the camera man to leave you alone and they come back, you are allowed to "remove" the camera from your presence as long as you are not intentionally trying to cause damage
I dont talk in these kind of situations

till now I always politely asked JFK if he had time to take a picture...
yet of course only when people around me agreed...
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Another emergency teleconference was held between our new CEO Vince Russo and the existing Board of Directors behind NALEM (me, myself, and I). We voted in favor of the following:

- Extending the Public Relations agreement between Will 76 and Achmed at WTF BRO PR Inc. Their insane fees are well worth it, and they have saved us from really embarassing ourselves even more, and are commit to their Mission Statement "you will be forgiven and back on top and ready to fuck up again in no time!"

- Negotiating with several event organizers who are determined to think that they are better off buying us out for the next year


- To not use the words rogue, crazy, insecure, unprofessional and JFK, in the same sentence as it would be absolutely wrong of us

- Introducing a affordable yet creative option to those looking to hide their photos taken by rogue photographers


Below please find the first design among many more to come. Be patient as the children of India and China are having a drawing contest and we will select the best of the worst from among them. As a way to pay back this industry that we love so much, we will be having a job fair ASAP. All unemployed industry people and all GFY board posters/posers are welcome to apply for the garment assembly positions that will be available very soon.

We will be offering the first 1000 idiots that apply incredible payouts up to 250 Euro per mask assembled, even though we sell them for 99. Furthermore to make you feel right at home, once you have begun to turn over the finished goods to us, we will be sure to apply the industry standard of "shaving", and make sure you get SHIT!!! + or - a few Euros.



We are excited to bring innovative ideas to the people and look forward to having these available at the registration table at all the upcoming European shows for a one time price of 99 Euros. Designer glasses are not included but are available for an extra 299 Euros.
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Another emergency teleconference was held between our new CEO Vince Russo and the existing Board of Directors behind NALEM (me, myself, and I). We voted in favor of the following:

- Extending the Public Relations agreement between Will 76 and Achmed at WTF BRO PR Inc. Their insane fees are well worth it, and they have saved us from really embarassing ourselves even more, and are commit to their Mission Statement "you will be forgiven and back on top and ready to fuck up again in no time!"

- Negotiating with several event organizers determined that they are better off buying us out for the next year


- To not use the words rogue, crazy, insecure, unprofessional and JFK, in the same sentence as it would be absolutely wrong of us

- Introducing a affordable yet creative option to those looking to hide their photos taken by rogue photographers


Below please find the first design among many more to come. Be patient as the children of India and China are having a drawing contest and we will select the best of the worst from among them. As a way to pay back this industry that we love so much, we will be having a job fair ASAP. All unemployed industry people and all GFY board posters/posers are welcome to apply for the garment assembly positions that will be available very soon.

We will be offering the first 1000 idiots that apply incredible payouts up to 250 Euro per mask assembled, even though we sell them for 99. Furthermore to make you feel right at home, once you have begun to turn over the finished goods to us, we will be sure to apply the industry standard of "shaving", and make sure you get SHIT!!! + or - a few Euros.



We are excited to bring innovative ideas to the people and look forward to having these available at the registration table at all the upcoming European shows for a one time price of 99 Euros. Designer glasses are not included but are available for an extra 299 Euros.

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[SIZE="3"]Another emergency teleconference was held between our new CEO Vince Russo and the existing Board of Directors behind NALEM (me, myself, and I). We voted in favor of the following:
I love your creative use of huge font sizes, you fucking retard.
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Really.

You guys ever went fishing and the fishied jumped straight into your boat and you laughed your ass off while the little fishies where crying and bitching?

Now: replace fish with troll and you know you've been fished.


BINGO hahahaha
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they seem to think they can make me pay for removing me out of a video...
Why should YOU get removed for free?

I hate people that think they deserve a free ride, when they've already paid.

It's like rain.

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I am no legal expert.. but the lawsuits I have been involved with.. with people taking pictures/video of someone and putting it online... Its came to this.


You can not post a picture or video of someone online without their permission/rights to the content, if its used for advertisement purposes/marketing/paid for.

So in theory by putting up a watermark, someone paid for pictures that someone took in a non public place/event without your permission from that production company.

If someone really wants their stuff removed they need to send a C&D. This also applies to trademarks in images, they are profiting off a image of your trademark without your consent. C&D and/or DMCA works in that case. They cannot charge you to remove the content.
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I am no legal expert.. but the lawsuits I have been involved with.. with people taking pictures/video of someone and putting it online... Its came to this.


You can not post a picture or video of someone online without their permission/rights to the content, if its used for advertisement purposes/marketing/paid for.

So in theory by putting up a watermark, someone paid for pictures that someone took in a non public place/event without your permission from that production company.

If someone really wants their stuff removed they need to send a C&D. This also applies to trademarks in images, they are profiting off a image of your trademark without your consent. C&D and/or DMCA works in that case. They cannot charge you to remove the content.
There are signs at shows saying "by passing this point you agree to be filmed".

If you then want to be taken out, a small processing fee is essential to get the work done.

This is BUSINESS, not CHARITY!

THINK!
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right so the correct move is to boycott all shows i guess
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right so the correct move is to boycott all shows i guess
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No, just chillax and let a brother earn a crumb or two man.
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There are signs at shows saying "by passing this point you agree to be filmed".

If you then want to be taken out, a small processing fee is essential to get the work done.

This is BUSINESS, not CHARITY!

THINK!
Regardless of waiver there are laws that do not supersede a waiver. Two people can agree that its ok for them to go have a boxing match on the sidewalk, but it doesn't mean its legal.

Being filmed is one thing, being filmed and used for the profits is another issue.
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Regardless of waiver there are laws that do not supersede a waiver. Two people can agree that its ok for them to go have a boxing match on the sidewalk, but it doesn't mean its legal.

Being filmed is one thing, being filmed and used for the profits is another issue.
Your analogy is wonky.

I assure you that it is perfectly legal to put up a sign saying "pass this point and you agree that you will be filmed and that film can be used for anything etc".

I really don't see your problem. Have you ever even met Vince at a show? He is a stand up guy and although clearly in this for profit (who isn't), he isn't a rip off merchant. If you can't afford the reasonable removal fees, he has already said he can do payment plans etc.

I hate haters man.
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Your analogy is wonky.

I assure you that it is perfectly legal to put up a sign saying "pass this point and you agree that you will be filmed and that film can be used for anything etc".

I really don't see your problem. Have you ever even met Vince at a show? He is a stand up guy and although clearly in this for profit (who isn't), he isn't a rip off merchant. If you can't afford the reasonable removal fees, he has already said he can do payment plans etc.

I hate haters man.
So wait, everyone hates nalem for supporting xxx, Nalem brings on a known name in the industry to run their show and now half of everyone here that was once against them is now for them?

This place cracks me up.
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Old 07-06-2011, 06:07 AM   #90
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So wait, everyone hates nalem for supporting xxx, Nalem brings on a known name in the industry to run their show and now half of everyone here that was once against them is now for them?

This place cracks me up.
If you'd ever sat down to one of Vince's legendary "Leet Dinners" in vegas in the basketball suite, you'd have a clue. I'm guessing you haven't.

Vince is JUST the man to turn around NALEM's fortunes here.

Your blinkered in the box thinking is just what is wrong with this industry.


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If you don't want your picture taken by these ass wipes, just toss your drink on the camera lens....problem solved.

Although I would much rather see someone bust them in the mouth VS seeing a lens messed up.....
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What if we want to pay to have other people removed from the video like all of the fat people who are always at shows? Or the badly dressed middle aged women with the bad hair and worse teeth?

What about superimposing our company logo onto everyone's T-shirts perhaps?
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i contacted my lawyer and he said not only is this illegal the ftc may be interested in this "porno creep shake down" (his words).

say hello to bubba and don't pick up the soap.
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i contacted my lawyer and he said not only is this illegal the ftc may be interested in this "porno creep shake down" (his words).

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So wait, everyone hates nalem for supporting xxx, Nalem brings on a known name in the industry to run their show and now half of everyone here that was once against them is now for them?

This place cracks me up.
Rumor is that Michael Vick also hired Vince Russo to repair his public image. It's worked wonders.

The guy is amazing.
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i contacted my lawyer and he said not only is this illegal the ftc may be interested in this "porno creep shake down" (his words).

say hello to bubba and don't pick up the soap.
Your lawyer sounds shit mate. Hope he didn't charge you too much for the call.

Ask him what a waiver is.

You agree a contract when you walk past the piece of paper stating you will be filmed if you walk past that bit of paper.

If you then demand the owner of that footage takes time and money to remove you, you must expect to pay. He said it won't be too much.

Not at all sure why you think that is unreasonable? Do you do work for free?
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This is some ridiculous shit. And this is coming from a ridiculous little green guy in a trenchcoat. Think about it. :D
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Wow. A lot of reading here. Ill have to read it all to catch up.
I was out for the weekend and watching firework celebrating the birth of our great Country.

Hope all is well.

Thanks for the kind words many of you here. And thanks for all the biz. Its never been better!

As for people not able to afford to pay to do the face removals in our videos, as I said before we can work something out. Reduced rates, payment plans, etc..

Our goal isnt to make you go broke or make things tight on you or your family $$ wise just to have your face removed from one of our show/convention videos. We are here to help and be part of the community. Not become a problem for the community. This is a courtsey from our part in removing your face from our videos and not a shakedown like many of you view this to be.

People taking photos of the shows and getting a small % of pics of people who find it unwanted is something that has been done for 10 years. What we do is no different.

Thanks everyone!
God Bless.

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Wow. A lot of reading here. Ill have to read it all to catch up.
I was out for the weekend and watching firework celebrating the birth of our great Country.

Hope all is well.

Thanks for the kind words many of you here. And thanks for all the biz. Its never been better!

As for people not able to afford to pay to do the face removals in our videos, as I said before we can work something out. Reduced rates, payment plans, etc..

Our goal isnt to make you go broke or make things tight on you or your family $$ wise just to have your face removed from one of our show/convention videos. We are here to help and be part of the community. Not become a problem for the community. This is a courtsey from our part in removing your face from our videos and not a shakedown like many of you view this to be.

People taking photos of the shows and getting a small % of pics of people who find it unwanted is something that has been done for 10 years. What we do is no different.

Thanks everyone!
God Bless.
That's good business, not greedy business.
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