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Old 09-13-2011, 01:32 PM   #51
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Rod Paul did not say anyone should die, no one cheered for any such statement
It's Damian twisting facts as usual

Here in the UK we pay NI which is national insurance, paying for healthcare. You can still pay for private health insurance but lots do not.
In the states, as they do not take NI from you, & private medical care is needed, then this is how it is.... Nothing wrong with paying for medical insurance

Maybe your taxes are a lot less than 20% & the rest over here
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so stupid, like 2 kids in the crowd yelled "yeah" for all you know it was the two liberals in the house there to heckle people.
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Maybe your taxes are a lot less than 20% & the rest over here
Tax isn't National Insurance, you do understand that, right?

Bless you for trying to join in a grown up conversation though.

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He never accepted Wolfs premise and instead just played politics and said whatever he wanted. Worthless in or out of context like all of them are. Congrats Obama on 4 more years.
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The hypo question was a bout a Person who HAS the ability to pay but chooses not to.
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Tax isn't National Insurance, you do understand that, right?

Bless you for trying to join in a grown up conversation though.

/me ruffles your hair
Maybe you should leave this conversation to the adults


When did anyone mention tax is the same as NI? NI pays for medical care in the UK... We pay higher taxes in the UK also.... Living in the US, if you want medical care, get some private cover, as the taxes are not so high & in the US, there is no NI.

Is that wrote clear enough for you....
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i think there should be a mandatory basic health insurance for cases like this - like in 99.9% of the civilized countries - just not in the US
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Irony here being that a lot of so called "tea party" people are working class and barely scratching out a living and will never amount to much of anything their whole lives, and often times can't afford health insurance. These people continually vote against their own best interests.
Does that keep you from doing what you think is right?
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Health insurance should be affordable. And don't even get me started on worthless dental insurance. It's fine for a cavity and that's about it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:24 PM   #61
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Maybe you should leave this conversation to the adults
That's what I said to you. It's sweet how you cannot think of anything insulting so just copy what I say. Imitation is the sincerest form of...?

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When did anyone mention tax is the same as NI?
You seemed to confuse the two, so I was trying to help you.

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NI pays for medical care in the UK... We pay higher taxes in the UK also.... Living in the US, if you want medical care, get some private cover, as the taxes are not so high & in the US, there is no NI.
So, you think it is cool to just let someone die because they have no insurance?


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Is that wrote* clear enough for you....
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It's cool man, it's as if you enjoy advertising the fact you left school at 15 and cannot even write basic English.

Seriously, I've used outsourced Indian workers who speak better English than you.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:30 PM   #62
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Ron Paul just want to say, if you take the risk, and got in such position, its not easy to say who will pay, but they will not let him die for god sake...
I think you should listen to it again.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:42 PM   #63
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Ron Paul is right on this. The few idiots in the crowd saying, "Yeah!" don't represent his position.
Thanks for posting the full clip, the short one doesn't reflect the true context of what Ron Paul was saying
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:46 PM   #64
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That's what I said to you. It's sweet how you cannot think of anything insulting so just copy what I say. Imitation is the sincerest form of...?
Still acting like the child & still trolling your own thread

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You seemed to confuse the two, so I was trying to help you.
No confusion here, maybe the confusion is inside that very small head of yours

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So, you think it is cool to just let someone die because they have no insurance?
Ron Paul didnt say this neither... you do like to exaggerate dont you! Is it because you lack attention at home, was it your big brother that got all of the attention? Ahhh, now im feeling sorry for the poor little attention seeker

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It's cool man, it's as if you enjoy advertising the fact you left school at 15 and cannot even write basic English.
Lies, I left school at 16... You should be banned

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Seriously, I've used outsourced Indian workers who speak better English than you.
Are you a racist mother fucker, whats an indian man got to do with speaking English in this conversation, considering most Indians as most of the world these days are intelligent and can speak English very well, you fucking racist arsehole
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Thanks for posting the full clip, the short one doesn't reflect the true context of what Ron Paul was saying
Yeah, Ron Paul is awesome. My bad.

/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt
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/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt
Is this the first time you've watched a video of him or have you seen others too?
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so stupid, like 2 kids in the crowd yelled "yeah" for all you know it was the two liberals in the house there to heckle people.
Lmao!!! Ok then!! Because that's what people who actually give a shit about anyone actually do.
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Well, truth be told, even in a social democracy like Norway there is no sponsored dental to talk about. Well, except for the first 18 years of your life, it is free. Dental work is not that overly expensive in the US unless you need serious work - Wonder how it is in Great Britain where everyone has teeth like as if they grew up in the countryside in the US
True -- I did the sums on dental versus paying cash and it's cheaper to pay cash if you brush every day. I recently had an old filling replaced - my dentist knocks off 15% if you pay cash so out the door it was like $200 or so.

I'm not sure why the dental field hasn't suffered the massive price inflation of other medical. Maybe because at the end of the day teeth are just teeth?
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Is this the first time you've watched a video of him or have you seen others too?
He's a cunt.
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Yeah, Ron Paul is awesome. My bad.

/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt
Libertarians are fucking idiots. Worse than Communists. They have all these theories that could only ever even remotely have any chance of working in an absolutely ideal world. Unlike Communism though, which in theory at least has its heart in the right place, Libertarianism is pure callousness and selfishness.

Unfortunately the internet is littered, like dog turds, with these Libertarian imbeciles, sucking the cock of batshit crazy novelist Ayn Rand and talking about this (thankfully) total no-hoper as Presidential material. Same idiotic shit happened before the last election and will happen again next time, if he hasn't croaked it by then.

All you need to know about Ron Paul is, like the worst kind political fundamentalist crank, he is such a crackpot extremist he even named his own son after his political hero. How anyone can take someone like that seriously, I don't know.
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Yeah, Ron Paul is awesome. My bad.

/me walks away shaking his head in shame that a human being could possibly ever think Ron Paul is anything other than a massive fucking cunt
Ron Paul is probably one of the few people that I have almost nothing in common with but still respect.

You can't deny the guy has a logical and consistent belief system and acts according to it, unlike about 99.9% of other politicians.
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I don't think having a consistent belief system is enough to elevate one from cuntdom.
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...sucking the cock of batshit crazy novelist Ayn Rand...
Have you read Rand?
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Well if all we are doing is calling people who disagree with us names, probably not.
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Have you read Rand?
Enough. Or more than enough. I take it you're one of the fans of the batshit crazy novelist I was talking about?

Edit: and if you want 'logical and consistent' (aka inflexible and unprepared to adapt), have a computer as President. A lot of tech nuts like Rand, so they'd probably go for that stupid idea too.

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to be inflexible in a constantly shifting and mutating world is a sign of weakness and insanity than anything to be admired.

if you know any kooks irl you will see them continually fail as they try and use their inflexible worldview in every situation.
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All you need to know about Ron Paul is, like the worst kind political fundamentalist crank, he is such a crackpot extremist he even named his own son after his political hero. How anyone can take someone like that seriously, I don't know.
This says to me loyal family man.... You do not have children? Have you not heard of people being named after their parents heros?

Are you saying you would prefer communism to freedom? come on... he's saying it is your choice, work hard & pay for all, succeed in all you do.
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Consistency is important in everything
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This says to me loyal family man.... You do not have children? Have you not heard of people being named after their parents heros?
Yeah. It means their parents are self-absorbed fuckstains who care more about their own interests than their own children. You have a hero? Get a tattoo. Where's Rand Paul's "freedom" and "liberty" not to be named after someone his dad just happens to have a hard on for?

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Are you saying you would prefer communism to freedom? come on... he's saying it is your choice, work hard & pay for all, succeed in all you do.
And what if you don't? It's simple-minded claptrap that could not possibly ever work in the real world. Not everyone can be a "winner".
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Lmao!!! Ok then!! Because that's what people who actually give a shit about anyone actually do.
Exactly, this is what kids do. I don't give a shit about people either, if you have a fulltime job, go get a insurance plan. If you don't want it even though you can afford it, your choice, fine, but don't ask me to pay for it and make it like I have no choice now.

I would tell the ER's to fix em up and send the bill to every single family member and make em all pay for bringing up suck an idiot for a kid.
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Wow! Um...watch the full clip and also note where he says that before govt intervention sick people were never turned away. In other words, he would not let someone die, it's up to them to find a way to pay for it. Big difference people, pull your heads out of your asses and do the proper research before you fall for propagandizing.
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The "moderator" is a very credible man, one of the most trusted news anchors in the world. Wolf Blitzer has his own news show, every weeknight and Saturday afternoons, called The Situation Room.

He has covered multiple presidential elections and is highly trusted, both in the US and internationally.

Guess that makes YOU, the pathetic and uneducated idot...
what you said.
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Wow! Um...watch the full clip and also note where he says that before govt intervention sick people were never turned away. In other words, he would not let someone die, it's up to them to find a way to pay for it. Big difference people, pull your heads out of your asses and do the proper research before you fall for propagandizing.
Um, YOU should just read the original post.

Pull your head out of your own ass before you open it and let words shit out of it.

Since your a moron and need someone to explain it to ya...and since you did not specify or quote anyone's comment, I'm going to assume your responding to the original poster. Not once did he mention that Ron Paul would prefer someone to just die. At the end of that clip, you do hear people shouting that they would prefer the hypothetical man to die.

If you argue with that, then your even more retarded then I originally thought you were.
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yes, it is sick and sad.

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See this is the stupidity and hypocrisy of the GOP. OK they bash "obamacare" for forcing people to get insurance, but if someone doesn't have insurance their attitude is "fuck 'em". Well if that dude had to buy insurance he'd be paying for his care wouldn't he? Oh and by the way the whole mandatory insurance thing was McCain's idea to begin with.
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Surprised? US news organizations have turned news reporting into a high school sporting event heckle session. There is no debate, no real discussion just name calling and finger pointing. I hear no real new ideas or forward motion plans to fix a country that is facing major financial and social issues.

It?s no surprise to hear reactions like this when you look at Bill O'Riley and the plethora of news shows in that class and there reporting styles, who breed single, close minded narrow view mentalities.
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Yeah. It means their parents are self-absorbed fuckstains who care more about their own interests than their own children. You have a hero? Get a tattoo. Where's Rand Paul's "freedom" and "liberty" not to be named after someone his dad just happens to have a hard on for?

And what if you don't? It's simple-minded claptrap that could not possibly ever work in the real world. Not everyone can be a "winner".
Nothing wrong with those names, I think they are both refreshing modern names.
I went for more traditional names for my 3 lads, they are not the usual mark, jack john, jim, bob, bill, ben.... (Not that there is anything wrong with these types of names) however, They are still original.

Maybe those negative to the freedom speech are the losers? To be free & to be a winner....
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