StickyGreen

I don't "want" to believe in anything.

You keep bringing up flying elephants, yet I've never heard of this anywhere. Can you point me towards any kind of evidence regarding these flying elephants? I've heard people describe encounters with "angelic beings" so-to-speak, but nothing about these flying elephants.

Dirty F

I can't. There is just as much evidence for flying elephants than there is for angels. None. Zero. Absolutely nothing.
You still fail to see your flawed logic.
See how you call flying elephants unlikely yet angels are likely in your fucked up fantasy world.
This is why i can't stand believers. I'm closed minded for not believing in angels but talk about flying elephants and that same person will ask for evidence.

And yes you WANT to believe. It's so clear even a blind person could see it.

Tom_PM

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StickyGreen

I just told you I don't "want" to believe anything, and then you come right back and tell me that yes, I do want to believe. lol, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree there.

Part of the definition of "evidence" is "To support by testimony; attest."

So technically, yes, evidence exists regarding extradimensional entities, spirits, angels, whatever the fuck you want to call them.

I never said that flying elephants were "unlikely," I said that I've never heard of any evidence regarding that phenomenon. I also never said that angels are "likely," I said it's "possible." Big difference.

You like to assume things and put words in people's mouths don't you?

hdkiller

+1

hdkiller

I do and it's works like a charm!

Dirty F

Really? So if i tell you i saw a flying elephant there is evidence regarding flying elephants?
Or is there evidence of me saying that i saw a flying elephants. Just as there is evidence for people saying they saw angels. Your 'wanting to believe' gets in the way of objective and critical thinking. You talk about quantum physics in one posts and in the next you say there is evidence of there being angels.
Basically you talk a lot of shit. Just because you clearly want to believe in certain things.

Tom_PM

The only evidence of flying elephants is the elephant on a trampoline gif, and Dumbo.

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StickyGreen

I'm not the one who included "To support by testimony; attest" as part of the definition of the word "evidence," so don't blame me for there technically being evidence of angels. You are looking for "physical" evidence, which would obviously be more difficult to obtain. All I was saying is there's no evidence that I know of regarding flying elephants, except maybe for this thread where you seemed to completely make it up out of nowhere.

I don't know why you keep going on about me "wanting" to believe something. I don't want or need to believe anything. Things either exist or they don't, and a lot of things that might exist in this Universe you and I will never know about. You're the one who seems so stuck on "disproving" things that might exist, instead of simply saying "Hmm, I honestly have no clue if they exist or not, I'm just one single human trying to make sense of this existence like everyone else."

You need to step outside of your know-it-all mindset and realize that you don't really "know" anything, none of us do.

Dirty F

Ok, this is getting stupid. I'm gonna try one more time to explain things to you. The last time. After that i give up.
I'm not claiming i know everything. Or how the universe works. I'm very open minded to the fact that there could be tons of "things" we can't see (yet). But right now there is absolutely no reason to believe that the chances or there being angels are bigger than the chances of there being flying elephants. Again: can't you really not see what i'm trying to say? You say there is evidence of there being angels. No, there is not. Absolutely no evidence whatsoever. There just tons of believers (like you) who want to see angels and then obviously claim they did. Why no flying elephants? Because nobody cares about flying elephants. It's that simple. If flying elephants could heal, come from heaven, were sent by God, warn people or whatever idiot story you can think of then all those people would instead see flying elephants and you, as a believer, would claim there is evidence that flying elephants exists. This has everything to do with religion and wanting to believe and nothing to do with critical thinking (which for some reason you seem to think you're doing).
If you still don't understand how wrong you are then so be it. Nothing i can do about it obviously. Maybe you should smoke less drugs.

StickyGreen

You're a frustrating person to talk with lol... You keep telling me that I'm a "believer" and I "want to believe" even after I have repeatedly told you that's not true.

I don't believe in angels, I believe in the possibility that angels might exist. Do you see the difference? I'm not going to say that I believe angels exist, because I don't know if they do or not. Is that clear enough?

And you're not being fair to people who have claimed to experience some sort of alleged extradimensional phenomenon because you already have your mind made up that they are crazy and did not experience what they claim. So it's pointless for someone like you to even look at the evidence (yes, that's what it is because part of the definition of the word evidence is "To support by testimony; attest," which has already been explained for you).

You claim it all has to do with religion but that's not true. Other dimensions which might contain sentient lifeforms of some sort could exist as quantum physics is beginning to explain regardless of what any "religion" has to say about it.

You even just said that you are "very open minded to the fact that there could be tons of 'things' we can't see," but then in the same paragraph you bash people who claimed to have experienced just that... something we can't see. Contradictory much?

Dirty F

I have no problem with that. In that case *everything* can/might exist. Ok, fine with me but you act as if the chances of there being angels are bigger than there being flying elephants. Which is complete bs because for both there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. So both chances should be equal. If it's not to you then it's faith. Religion. Wanting to believe. Which is what you are doing.

PIRIOD!

StickyGreen

Both of your examples are equally possible. My point is that here on this planet there is a lot more evidence regarding one than the other.

I've never heard anything about flying elephants so I wouldn't even find it necessary to entertain the idea yet. But when it comes to the subject of extradimensional beings we have all kinds of different evidence. I don't think you've ever really looked into this subject so you don't have the slightest clue of what "evidence" I'm even talking about.

There's even famous musicians who have claimed to encounter spiritual entities. That in itself is such a petty tiny trivial piece of evidence, yet there is so much of it out there that it all starts to add up and make you scratch your head and start contemplating the possibility.

Is every single person whos ever spoken of such things absolutely fucking crazy? It's possible. Then on the other hand, is any of it actually based in reality somehow? That's also possible. We don't know. (well except you, you claim to know that it's all fantasy fairy-tale bullshit)

Dirty F

NO there is not you fucking freak!
Jesus!

StickyGreen

I don't think you understand what evidence is. Maybe you're confusing the term "proof" with "evidence?" I guess we should pause our conversation until you understand what evidence is.

Matt 26z

Years ago I was at a bus stop standing behind a group of people also waiting. For some reason I developed this feeling that I was in a really bad spot (like having your hand on a burner before it heats up). I had this very strong urge to move to the front of the group even though I never cut in line anywhere. So I walked around them and took a position next to the bus sign and put my hand around the pole. There was a group of teens horsing around behind me and just as the bus was arriving one of them fell into my back really hard and landed on the ground to the side of me. Had I not moved to the front and grabbed hold of the sign, the timing was just right for him to have ended up under the bus.

grumpy

i fired mine, couldn't be trusted.

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Penny24Seven

HAHAHA I love the close-mind reply when they have already closed their minds to science and anything else that goes a different way then god and the angles flying around saving you from that car crash, If you die they were out to lunch or it was just meant to be LOL

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