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Rob · 11-29-2012, 12:37 PM

But now it sucks assholes! For some reason it doesn't play well with Flash anymore, it constantly freezes, and the latest update put it below IE on my browser list. What happened, Mozilla? Fix this shit already.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-29-2012, 12:47 PM

I surf with firefox and flash debug. Very much firefox's fault.

woj · 11-29-2012, 12:55 PM

works fine here...

Killswitch · 11-29-2012, 12:59 PM

Chrome is best, and sadly, IE9+ are creeping up.

MaDalton · 11-29-2012, 01:01 PM

i have to agree about the flash freezing..

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-29-2012, 01:01 PM

It's people who can not program crashing flash.

Secondly I still use Firefox for development but the texture is what has changed is all.

SGS · 11-29-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i have to agree about the flash freezing..

Flash freezes/crashes at least once a day here.

crockett · 11-29-2012, 02:24 PM

All browsers seem to suck anymore. Seems they all come out as new and hyped saying they are better than the competition because they are lighter & faster.. yadda, yada, yadda..

Then they all end up bloated and crashing after a few years.

HomerSimpson · 11-29-2012, 03:47 PM

Chrome is #1 for developers and their DOM inspector simply ROCKS and can't be matched to any other browser...

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-29-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

Chrome is #1 for developers and their DOM inspector simply ROCKS and can't be matched to any other browser...

Especially with all those addons and extensions all their developers develop.

DamianJ · 11-29-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

Chrome is best

http://lifehacker.com/browser-speed-tests/

http://lifehacker.com/5917714/browse...and-opera-1164

Killswitch · 11-29-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

Chrome is #1 for developers and their DOM inspector simply ROCKS and can't be matched to any other browser...

Except for Safari. Safari's DOM inspector is equally as good.

Zeiss · 11-29-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

But now it sucks assholes! For some reason it doesn't play well with Flash anymore, it constantly freezes, and the latest update put it below IE on my browser list. What happened, Mozilla? Fix this shit already.

Linux? I had this...

candyflip · 11-29-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

http://lifehacker.com/browser-speed-tests/

http://lifehacker.com/5917714/browse...and-opera-1164

Faster doesn't equal better. Not by a long shot.

18teens · 11-29-2012, 07:53 PM

I've been using Firefox for years but it has become a worthless piece of dog shit lately and is seriously pissing me the fuck off

Ecchi22 · 11-29-2012, 07:58 PM

I just block the flash when I don't need it, still works better than anything else I know of.

iwantchixx · 11-29-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

But now it sucks assholes! For some reason it doesn't play well with Flash anymore, it constantly freezes, and the latest update put it below IE on my browser list. What happened, Mozilla? Fix this shit already.

use palemoon project, it's very solid and plays well with flash

adult-help · 11-29-2012, 09:02 PM

yeah,firefox suck real bad. Try to disable firebug to test it though.. flash constantly freezes,lockups...

I tried ie10 for win7 and I am surprised,it is fast and good.

buzzard · 11-29-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

use palemoon project, it's very solid and plays well with flash

Yes, was going to suggest Pale Moon you can load it up with addons and it will perform better than FireFox ...but still has problems with flash.

NatalieK · 11-29-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

But now it sucks assholes! For some reason it doesn't play well with Flash anymore, it constantly freezes, and the latest update put it below IE on my browser list. What happened, Mozilla? Fix this shit already.

I like & use rockmelt

Rob · 11-30-2012, 05:57 AM

A lot of useful information in this thread. Thanks!

DamianJ · 11-30-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Faster doesn't equal better. Not by a long shot.

I guess it depends what you are looking for a browser to do.

What metrics would you look at?

Presnus · 11-30-2012, 08:25 AM

Chrome is good but I like Firefox + Firebug a lot more. I don't have the flash issue...

inventive · 11-30-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

Chrome is #1 for developers and their DOM inspector simply ROCKS and can't be matched to any other browser...

I love Chrome as well , being using it since September 2008 haven't looked back since

Matyko · 11-30-2012, 09:21 AM

All browsers are SHIT. They are just different shit. Chrome is a fast shit with uber-crap bookmark system. Firefox is a Big Shit Pile eating your resources and not that fast. Like the Devastator tank in Dune 2. IE is such a big pile of SHIT the other 2 look different than the SHIT they ARE

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-30-2012, 09:22 AM

Internet explorer plays flash best.

CIVMatt · 11-30-2012, 10:05 AM

honestly I can't take the flash issues anymore and the fact they still haven't rolled out a retina version (yes I know it's in beta)

I switched to Chrome and I'm not looking back

Klen · 11-30-2012, 10:51 AM

Yes flash for some reason is always crashing on ff,regardless which version and even operative system.Which is why lately i try to always use safari when i need to surf youtube.
But ff works pretty fine if you avoid flash and fancy sites.

KillerK · 11-30-2012, 10:58 AM

I have issues with firefox or palemoon with flash, page will freeze for 2-20 seconds then work fine. Sometimes it's great though and I have no issues.

If you like Chrome you should be using Iron.

signupdamnit · 11-30-2012, 11:02 AM

Proprietary crap like flash makes it harder for browsers such as Firefox.

Klen · 11-30-2012, 11:05 AM

Also forgot to mention how i would like if everyone, atleast in part of playing videos,would switch to html5 since upgrading flash almost every day just for watching videos is stupid.

signupdamnit · 11-30-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Also forgot to mention how i would like if everyone, atleast in part of playing videos,would switch to html5 since upgrading flash almost every day just for watching videos is stupid.

I would love to switch to HTML5 primarily and use flash only for a fall back on all my sites but unfortunately most scripts can't handle it yet. Flash annoys the hell out of me as a surfer. Especially flash ads and the unnecessary animations. It eats up the cpu and causes crashes.

facialfreak · 11-30-2012, 12:37 PM

Flash is a dying technology ...

Within the next 24 months, everything will be HTML5, as it works just fine on ALL PLATFORMS - including mobile devices.

Firefox and Safari know that flash is done, and are putting very little effort into supporting it in their latest softwares.

facialfreak · 11-30-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I would love to switch to HTML5 primarily and use flash only for a fall back on all my sites but unfortunately most scripts can't handle it yet. Flash annoys the hell out of me as a surfer. Especially flash ads and the unnecessary animations. It eats up the cpu and causes crashes.

If implemented properly, HTML5 uses not even 25% of the resources flash does ...

If your site/scripts cannot handle HTML5, then they are probably sloppy coding.

Do not optimize your sites for the guys surfing on Windows 2000/XP - on their old Athlon Thunderbird PCs.

There's a very good chance that somebody who could not afford to upgrade his PC in over 10 years, will not buy a membership to your site. This type of guy has all the FREE porn bookmarked in his Internet Explorer 5.

Klen · 11-30-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by facialfreak

Flash is a dying technology ...

Within the next 24 months, everything will be HTML5, as it works just fine on ALL PLATFORMS - including mobile devices.

Firefox and Safari know that flash is done, and are putting very little effort into supporting it in their latest softwares.

I think it depend on google- if they say fuck you flash and force html 5 on youtube,then others will probably follow.

Zeiss · 11-30-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

I think it depend on google- if they say fuck you flash and force html 5 on youtube,then others will probably follow.

Google need to take care of their unpaid taxes first...

RyanEagle · 11-30-2012, 02:36 PM

Safari on Mac OS works amazingly, and have good luck with Chrome on Windows.

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11-29-2012, 12:37 PM	#1
Rob I'm a great bowler. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Right Outside of Normal. Posts: 13,309	Firefox used to be the best browser for developers... But now it sucks assholes! For some reason it doesn't play well with Flash anymore, it constantly freezes, and the latest update put it below IE on my browser list. What happened, Mozilla? Fix this shit already. __________________

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Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE Barterer Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,864	I surf with firefox and flash debug. Very much firefox's fault.

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	All browsers seem to suck anymore. Seems they all come out as new and hyped saying they are better than the competition because they are lighter & faster.. yadda, yada, yadda.. Then they all end up bloated and crashing after a few years.

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Presnus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,087	Chrome is good but I like Firefox + Firebug a lot more. I don't have the flash issue...

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Yes flash for some reason is always crashing on ff,regardless which version and even operative system.Which is why lately i try to always use safari when i need to surf youtube. But ff works pretty fine if you avoid flash and fancy sites. Last edited by Klen; 11-30-2012 at 10:53 AM..

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KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	I have issues with firefox or palemoon with flash, page will freeze for 2-20 seconds then work fine. Sometimes it's great though and I have no issues. If you like Chrome you should be using Iron.

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Also forgot to mention how i would like if everyone, atleast in part of playing videos,would switch to html5 since upgrading flash almost every day just for watching videos is stupid.

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