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So this was really disturbing.

I was on a flight out of LaGuardia this week and was detained by TSA for 4+ hours .. my "crime" ... I was carrying 12k in cash.

According to TSA, an American, travelling domestically is not allowed to carry more than 10k in cash.

It was quite an ordeal as they contacted my bank, the hotel I stayed at, the people I met with in NY etc. They grilled me pretty hard and I have to tell you... it was spooky.

Juicy D. Links

10K has always been the limit , you are lucky some shady TSA fucks didn't confiscate it and such....

Evil Chris

What are you doing walking around with that much hard currency on you?

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I thought 10k or more meant you had to declare it, not the maximum you could actually carry.

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96ukssob

Yeah, very true. Some of these things are clearly listed, but they could of easily taken your cash and held it for years.

Why would you be carrying that much cash anyway? They don't have banks where you are going or planning on buying every item on the plane?

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Bro no disrespect but I was taught that in 3rd grade.
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timlover

Well thats to help fight drug money payments and money laundering...

next time fill out the form

http://www.unclefed.com/IRS-Forms/1998/f4790.pdf

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not sure i think it is 10k , any more than that is asking for trouble i think in questioning and so on....

I once duct taped my wad on my gooch on the way back from Vegas

Rochard

Why is it disturbing? You are taking large amounts of cash out of the country. Not strange at all.

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baddog

Nothing new here.

Pipecrew

Not fully related but if the amount is under 10k usually and on your person you won't have a problem.

However today when flying out of lax. I had 400 cash on me and I went through the 3d X-ray thingy. They made me step out and hand them my cash and then get back in. Never seen that procedure before. Every other time they encourage you to hold onto your cash and boarding pass

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had to have it for columbia?

baddog

I have never had them suggest I hold onto my cash. Boarding pass only.

L-Pink

For domestic travel?

georgeyw

I was wondering the same, have never ever heard of this being applied to domestic travel (in Aus of course). We have the asame 10K limit for international travels though.

Why would it matter for domestic?

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lezinterracial

You are very lucky the TSA didn't take it. You don't want to even drive down the road with more than a few hundred dollars in cash. The cops will take your money and let you go.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/18...or-profit-case

You can refuse a search of your car, But the cops will bring a dog that they can signal when to alert.

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The Heron

Pretty sure it's only international when the 10k limit applies, interstate travel should be affected but then again TSA is pretty hard to pin down their rules

TheSquealer

Thats nothing new and has zero to do with the TSA. Been like that for probably close to 20 years. The magic number has been 10k. Same with bank deposits. You can't just fill a briefcase with cash and fly out of the country with it.

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georgeyw

Domestic travel

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Pseudonymous

i always carry exactly 9,999 in my pocket when going to the states each time, its how much i pay my models. and i like to take it out in american before i go down, i pay my models cash, not cheque. never been questioned. but probably because i carry under 10k? not like they know how much is there, passes through scanner and t hey give it to me

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Due

I think it's based on your appearance. If you look like it's a lot of money for you they will treat you like it's a lot of money.

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He said domestically

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Right. I think people are misunderstanding here. I was not leaving the country. I was going from NY to Miami LOL.

And for those who are asking about the dollar amount. 12k for a trip to Miami .. especially during a week when the Heat won the championship... sorry but that is chump change.

I have travelled extensively domestically for years and have NEVER had issue carrying cash.

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Domestically.

From my attorney:

It is not illegal to carry large amounts of cash while traveling domestically. You only need to declare amounts over 10k when travelling internationally. The government cannot seize the funds without first proving it to be connected with criminal activity or having a lien on the cash (e.g. from a tax assessment, etc). Absent some other fact found in the screening that would indicate criminal activity, the TSA should not detain you for long simply because you have a lot of cash on you.

Robbie

It shouldn't be any of the govt.'s fucking business how much money you have with you.

But I guess I'm the only one who is disgusted with this kind of shit going on.

All in the name of the the failed "drug war"...which is the govt. telling us what we can put in our own bodies.

I should be able to walk around with as much of MY money as I want to at any given time. It's nobodies business. ESPECIALLY the govt.

But I guess you have to be treated like a criminal to ride on what passes for an airplane these days (a glorified bus with wings)

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http://airsafe.com/issues/baggage/cash.htm

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Robbie

Yep, and back before the "war on drugs" and the TSA and ATM machines...big time rich gamblers would load up with hundreds of thousands of dollars in CASH in cases and come here to Vegas to gamble.

Hell, a lot of them still do. You can't withdraw money fast enough or in big enough amounts to sit down at some high stakes poker games. Even an ATM will limit you on how much you can pull out, etc.

The whole thing is disgusting to me that the authorities are monitoring our every move and even telling us how much of our own money we can or can't have in our own pockets.

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brassmonkey

yeah its 10k dogg. did you get the flour to bake the cakes?

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How is this "iffy" ?

"If you are on a domestic flight in the US, there is no limit to the amount of cash or monetary instruments that you can carry."

I didn't mind a few questions but 4+ hours of intrusive questions, phone calls etc and a missed flight.. I was rightfully pissed.

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It was disgusting.

Imagine this .. my bank received an inquiry from TSA regarding my withdrawal activity.

My mainstream business client received a call from TSA questioning our relationship and meeting in NY

The hotel I have been a Gold Member+ for over 15 years received a call from TSA questioning my hotel stay.

baddog

I guess you would have to read the next sentence or two.

Trend

Speaking of coming to Vegas ... is there a train from the east coast .. because I may never fly again! lol

Jim_Gunn

For fuck's sake I don't know which is worse among the early replies- the people who didn't understand from his clearly stated post that this was a *domestic* flight, not international; or the people that act like they approve of the government being up their ass and asking them questions "because they have nothing to hide".

I agree with Robbie, it's fucking ridiculous that TSA agents at airports and State troopers all over the country are now setting up on highways and confiscating people's hard earned money on some bullshit suspicion of drugs or terrorist activity or whatever other excuse they dream up. The police have actually become modern day highwaymen stealing from people unlucky enough to pass them by.

Vendzilla

This has been going on for more than 30 years that I know of, had that problem way back then.

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L-Pink

So on my way to buy a car for instance I can have my cash confiscated?

Robbie

Probably more like 40 years...ever since Richard Nixon started the "War On Drugs".

Only thing is they weren't able to just search people (because it's unconstitutional and people wouldn't stand for it back then) so it wasn't really able to be enforced as much.

But now...thanks to "terrorism" (you know, a dozen guys with box cutters 12 years ago), they search you and scan you and you have zero privacy.

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Robbie

Got news for ya...if you buy a car with cash it better be the cheapest car on the planet. Because if you walk into a car dealership and pay more than $10,000 in cash...the fucking IRS requires the dealership to make you fill out Form 8300 so they can keep track of YOUR money at all times.

I bought my jeep a few years ago with "cash", I did it by going to the bank and purchasing several cashiers checks for $9,000 each.

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Some newer currency has RFID tags embedded in it, which could interfere with the backscatter x-ray machines at most airports.

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zuffa

I have travelled in and out of Vegas for many years carrying significant sums of cash and had never been stopped.

Glad I don't travel commercially any longer.

brassmonkey

should have just put it in his jaw

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Jim_Gunn

I see a video or article almost every month on Youtube and news sites about some immigrant businessman trying to buy a franchise store, a family moving out of state, a retired guy buying a truck or some other law abiding citizens on their way to wherever driving down the highway within America in places like Tennessee and elsewhere getting their cash "confiscated" by State troopers on suspicion of drug trafficking. They always bring some dogs out and make them "signal" at some pre-determined moment and they say the dog smelled drugs and force their way into the vehicle even if it is locked and steal your money. Then a year or so later after you spend thousands fighting it in court they'll just say there must have been "residue" on your bills give you back 95% of it if your attorney is really good. It's insane the shit that goes on nowadays with law enforcement.

Rochard

My parents used to do just that - a briefcase full of case every time they went to Europe. My step father had his own business, and as a side business he sold cars under the table. He would buy a car at auction using cash, fix it up, and then sell it, and stash the profits. Three or four times a year he would fly off to Europe. By the time my folks divorced, they had $200k in investments in Europe.

Good times.

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Barefootsies

Odd. I guess the dealerships I have dealt with over the years are not following this law, as I have never had to do this with any cashier's check, and I have paid for cars cash. My 2011 Ford Edge I bought 2 years ago was more than $10k, and never had this issue then either.

I have heard of the $10k rule, and the only time I can think of being hassled with it was once a year at the casino if I won more than $10k in a 2 day period of time. That is the only time I recall having to fill anything out with it.

I have bank wires coming and going for much more than that on a weekly basis, and again, never had an issue. I do get called from the bank every 3-6 months, and I have explained what I am doing, who I am dealing with, and whatever so they have a full understanding of why I have these large payments and invoices going back and forth.

Do I get annoyed having to explain some of this stuff repeatedly? Sure. But I also do not want them locking up accounts on bullshit either. Which has never happened as I am straight forward with what is going where and why.

Do I think the government needs to know where every dime of my money in coming and going? No, not at all. I find it beyond annoying. However, I do concede that "most Americans" do not have to their name, so I can understand why they are asking about such matters. I am not saying it's right or wrong and I do find it some level of intrusive. I also do not agree with them seizing it, or getting all up in your business with the bank/hotel/friends/etc. or local Fife taking it either.

I am simply saying, I can understand WHY they ask when most people do not have $10,000 to their name, much less carrying it on their person regardless of where they are going.

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You can transport as much money as you like domestically. Internationally you must declare amounts over the 10K limit.

Now, you must remember that airports are not normal areas and once you are in an airport you can be searched. If they found that much cash on you they might assume you could have drugs (this is profiling which is used despite denials). You do NOT however have to PROVE anything at all.

You are well within your rights to carry that cash...just have the knowledge that the fucking authorities will use that sort of thing to do further searches!

RyuLion

BINGO!! That's why I will always get sent to secondary inspection..

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I never get on a plane with more than $9,990.

12k seems like a lot for anybody to keep on them for a flight, unless you were flying private.

I agree it is ridiculous what they did to you though.

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