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Old 08-28-2013, 02:57 PM   #51
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"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.
We killed millions and they killed thousands of us. Even the worst case stats say it was thousands to one. That's all it was ever about in the first place so we won.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:43 PM   #52
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Soviet war in Afghanistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

Casualties and losses
Soviet Forces: 14,453 Killed (total)
Afghan Forces: 18,000 killed[18]

Mujahideen: 75,000?90,000 killed, 75,000+ wounded (tentative )

Civilians (Afghan): 850,000?1,500,000 killed
Around 3 million Afghans wounded (mostly civilians)

population of afghanistan: 20M (1980)
Who came up with these numbers, aren't rebels civilians? The US interfered and turned the Mujahideen into the Taliban, it created a monster for themselves, something the Russians were trying to destroy a long time ago.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:46 PM   #53
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"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.

It is not getting any better is it ?

I really think you need to have a lie down.

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Old 08-28-2013, 03:56 PM   #54
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Well, they were there for a shorter period, had nearly four times the KIA, and didn't seem to accomplish our goal. We accomplished our goal. Keep in mind our beef really wasn't with the Taliban; It was with Al Qaeda.
10 years is short? I quote Wikipedia:

Large numbers of Soviet Airborne Forces joined stationed ground troops and began to land in Kabul on December 25.

On December 27, 1979, 700 Soviet troops occupied major governmental, military and media buildings in Kabul, including their primary target – the Tajbeg Presidential Palace.

On December 27, 1979, the operation began at 19:00 hr., when the KGB-led Soviet Zenith Group destroyed Kabul's communications hub, paralyzing Afghan military command.

At 19:15, the assault on Tajbeg Palace began; as planned, president Hafizullah Amin was killed. Simultaneously, other objectives were occupied (e.g. the Ministry of Interior at 19:15).

The operation was fully complete by the morning of December 28, 1979.

Then the US came to help the so called brave and helpless rebels, first by financial aid, later weapons. One of their commanders and leaders was Osama bin Laden! Should've stayed out, and maybe the twin-towers would still be there.
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:46 AM   #55
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Well, they were there for a shorter period, had nearly four times the KIA
Once again, Mujaheddins were supported by two powerful countries: the USA and China. What would happen to your army if Taliban was supported by Russia? Something tells me that your KIA would grow many times.

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and didn't seem to accomplish our goal. We accomplished our goal.
Really? What is your goal then?

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Keep in mind our beef really wasn't with the Taliban; It was with Al Qaeda.
Actually Al Qaeda is Taliban. Both were created by CIA, BTW.
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Old 08-29-2013, 04:49 AM   #57
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Hope there won't be new war...
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