Russia calls Obama a monkey with a grenade

[Mutt]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-few-days.html

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Mutt

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-few-days.html

not exactly ... in fact, no mention of Obama ....

"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."

[xNetworx]

[dyna mo]

certainly there are more appropriate analogies, why not a toddler with a grenade? still insulting, but less monkey.

no, monkey was chosen for a reason.

not to mention, obama and putin are currently snubbing each other over snowden, the monkey term fits right in.

[Rochard]

"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.

[F-U-Jimmy]

Sounds about right to me !

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.

Yeah, because the US is doing such a great job "winning" after 11 years.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by CamBoss

Here ya go



And mine as a beer as well

[CDSmith]

Russia calls THE WEST a monkey with a grenade.


How can we expect our media to get all the reporting they do right when we can't even get a simple thread title put up correctly?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Yeah, because the US is doing such a great job "winning" after 11 years.

Seems to me the government we put in place is still in place...

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Seems to me the government we put in place is still in place...

That's your definition of winning?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comm...621-2oo78.html

[xNetworx]

US will take out Syria in a day

[Tom_PM]

Well, they say the UN inspectors should pull out Sunday. So I guess in a few days after the NSA reads all of our posts to get a feel for the country's sentiments, lmao.

[baggg]

Originally Posted by Mutt

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-few-days.html

[Captain Kawaii]

One day we are all going to be old, sitting in diapers and on death's door regretting the time we wasted with these monkey shows.

Perhaps monkey refers to west being a monkey on a chain being manipulated by an organ grinder.

[Pronstar]

This looks better

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Mutt

[pornmasta]

rotfl 8 char

[ajrocks]

Man if you guys ever want terrorists to stop gunning for your home soil you need to pull out of that hell hole they call the middle east. There is no helping, saving or stabilizing these people, they are tribes of people who have been at war for 1000's of years. You bomb them and then they bread another generation of brainwashed kids that want to war with the West.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Rochard

"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.

haha funniest post of the day. rochard, your head is smack up your ass.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Rochard

"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.

Soviet war in Afghanistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

Casualties and losses
Soviet Forces: 14,453 Killed (total)
Afghan Forces: 18,000 killed[18]

Mujahideen: 75,000?90,000 killed, 75,000+ wounded (tentative )

Civilians (Afghan): 850,000?1,500,000 killed
Around 3 million Afghans wounded (mostly civilians)

population of afghanistan: 20M (1980)

[dyna mo]

nobody ever wins in afghanistan,

[Vendzilla]

We need to get our troops home, not ship more over there.
We have no interest really for being over there.
Two presidents trying to change the middle east and what has it got us?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.

Like we are doing any better.

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

I cant stop watching this...funny as hell.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

We need to get our troops home, not ship more over there.
We have no interest really for being over there.
Two presidents trying to change the middle east and what has it got us?

Ummm you do understand it's about nothing more than money don't you? Do you really think the industral military complex can survive with out wars and endless govt contracts?

You have any idea how many people would be out of work if the wars stopped?

[oppoten]

So Russia calls the West a monkey with a grenade, and Jewish media interprets it as meaning Obama.

Well he's their monkey so they should know.

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by crockett

Ummm you do understand it's about nothing more than money don't you? Do you really think the industral military complex can survive with out wars and endless govt contracts?

You have any idea how many people would be out of work if the wars stopped?

Precisely! The wars that western governments have been starting for last 50 years have got nothing to do with oil, diamonds, spheres of interest or any other bs. It's simply about selling bombs. A lobbying went-too-far that's all it is.

Imagine if american corruption machine wasn't lobbying and then consuming the 600-billion-a-year military budget but let's say a 600-billion-a-year budget for exploration of space. Where would we be as a civilisation by now?

[WTFBucks]

a monkey with a grenade is a set phrase for a woman driving a car

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Mutt

That's has nothing to do with racism at all. "A monkey with a grenade" is an old and settled expression which has no racial origin. It's about any unpredictable person what can hurt others.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Rochard

"The West behaves towards the Islamic world like a monkey with a grenade."... Says the country that got it's ass handed to them in Afghanistan.

It's your army being assraped in Afghanistan right now. Soviet Union has pulled out its army by Gorbachev's good will only. The same was done in Western Europe. Learn history, you dumb clown.

Originally Posted by Rochard

Seems to me the government we put in place is still in place...

The government that the USSR has put in place there has lasted 3 years without any support from Soviets. Yours will be overthrown on the next day. Think about it.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Yeah, because the US is doing such a great job "winning" after 11 years.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

That's has nothing to do with racism at all. "A monkey with a grenade" is an old and settled expression which has no racial origin. It's about any unpredictable person what can hurt others.

omg that is so friggin awesome.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

That's your definition of winning?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comm...621-2oo78.html

Don't argue with a retard, you will end up looking just as retarded.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

That's has nothing to do with racism at all. "A monkey with a grenade" is an old and settled expression which has no racial origin. It's about any unpredictable person what can hurt others.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by ajrocks

Man if you guys ever want terrorists to stop gunning for your home soil you need to pull out of that hell hole they call the middle east. There is no helping, saving or stabilizing these people, they are tribes of people who have been at war for 1000's of years. You bomb them and then they bread another generation of brainwashed kids that want to war with the West.

US desperately needs the oil and opium. They send their own people to die to get it.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by WTFBucks

a monkey with a grenade is a set phrase for a woman driving a car

lol. yea well racism doesn't work like that

and it took a bit of effort to confirm this is a 'generic' saying, rather than something specific.

Google translate, for example, doesn't even know the russian word for grenade.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Mutt

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-few-days.html

the world is laughing at Obama ... they might have not liked Bush, but at least the world was afraid of him.... Obama is a joke

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

That's your definition of winning?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comm...621-2oo78.html

As a matter of fact, yes. I define a war as being between the governments of two countries and their respective armies. We removed the Taliban and their government from power, and their replacement government has been in power since 2002 or so. Admittedly they are on shaky ground, but after ten years it's time for us to leave.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

As a matter of fact, yes. I define a war as being between the governments of two countries and their respective armies. We removed the Taliban and their government from power, and their replacement government has been in power since 2002 or so. Admittedly they are on shaky ground, but after ten years it's time for us to leave.

no one removed the taliban.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

Soviet war in Afghanistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

Casualties and losses
Soviet Forces: 14,453 Killed (total)
Afghan Forces: 18,000 killed[18]

Mujahideen: 75,000?90,000 killed, 75,000+ wounded (tentative )

Civilians (Afghan): 850,000?1,500,000 killed
Around 3 million Afghans wounded (mostly civilians)

population of afghanistan: 20M (1980)

And?

Russia had 14k KIA in ten years; We've been there longer and we've had 3k KIA.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Russia had 14k KIA in ten years; We've been there longer and we've had 3k KIA.

Because you have done nothing other than bombing and protecting your own bases. Do you know how many schools, hospitals, roads etc have been built by Soviets in Afghanistan? Ah, Einstein?

BTW, Mujaheddins were supplied by the States with Stingers which were used to take down Russian aircrafts and helicopters. Now try to imagine the US loses if Taliban was supplied with say... 9K38 Iglas?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

no one removed the taliban.

Odd, because I could have sworn the Taliban were removed from the government. President Hamid Karzai is running the country. The Taliban has been reduced from a functioning government to a terrorist force who stages bombings.

Keep in mind also that with Afghanistan and Pakistan, some areas of their country have never been controlled by the government... There is just no government forces, offices, or support for entire regions of these countries - and no law either.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Because you have done nothing other than bombing and protecting your own bases.

I am guessing this is exactly what the Russians did too.

The problem is large amounts of Afghanistan aren't ruled by anyone - there is no government, no infrastructure, and no law. It doesn't really matter who is in power in the capital, because their power has never extended into the outer regions. Even when the Taliban was in power, they still didn't control the entire country - in fact, there was multiple armies facing the Taliban when they were in power.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Do you know how many schools, hospitals, roads etc have been built by Soviets in Afghanistan?

I do not know. Oddly enough I don't know much about the Russian / Afghanistan war. I'm currently reading about the Falklands War, but my next book should be about the Russian war in Afghanistan.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Odd, because I could have sworn the Taliban were removed from the government. President Hamid Karzai is running the country. The Taliban has been reduced from a functioning government to a terrorist force who stages bombings.

Keep in mind also that with Afghanistan and Pakistan, some areas of their country have never been controlled by the government... There is just no government forces, offices, or support for entire regions of these countries - and no law either.

argument wise, the magician actually does pull a rabbit from his hat.

just saying.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by crockett

Ummm you do understand it's about nothing more than money don't you? Do you really think the industral military complex can survive with out wars and endless govt contracts?

You have any idea how many people would be out of work if the wars stopped?

That's the old way of thinking

When they gave the bay bridge contact to China, they said we couldn't do it, now the bridge is shut down because of failing welds and bolts.

Our government is fucking us over, period, this is not a dem vs gop thing, it's about profit.
We have more oil in the US than any of the country's in the middle east.

Right now we have a weak leader, he thought things would get better because he was more tolerant to the middle east than Bush, truth is he has no balls and that's why Reagan didn't bow to foreign powers and ended the cold war, Russia has no respect for Barry, and the other middle east countries have no respect for him as well.

I'm waiting to see if he declares war without congress voting on it, that's his style

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am guessing this is exactly what the Russians did too.

Really??? Ok, here is the same question again: do you know how many schools, hospitals, roads etc have been built by Soviets in Afghanistan? Ah, Einstein?

You're just bombing and hiding while Soviets were trying to change the whole country (infrastructure, med care, education etc). Feel the deference.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And?

Russia had 14k KIA in ten years; We've been there longer and we've had 3k KIA.

1.5M deads in afghanistan, Soviet Union loses 14k men and for the offical history, they lost the war ????

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Really??? Ok, here is the same question again: do you know how many schools, hospitals, roads etc have been built by Soviets in Afghanistan? Ah, Einstein?

You're just bombing and hiding while Soviets were trying to change the whole country (infrastructure, med care, education etc). Feel the deference.

We aren't doing that in Afghanistan? I thought we were. I've been reading about schools, power plants, roads... And a dam?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2...cts-To-Afghans

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

1.5M deads in afghanistan, Soviet Union loses 14k men and for the offical history, they lost the war ????

Well, they were there for a shorter period, had nearly four times the KIA, and didn't seem to accomplish our goal. We accomplished our goal. Keep in mind our beef really wasn't with the Taliban; It was with Al Qaeda.