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Old 09-16-2013, 05:08 AM   #1
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9/11 and all this time I thought it was a plane

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Old 09-16-2013, 05:36 AM   #2
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I think a Youtube video doesn't counteract the incredible amount of evidence that the official story has behind it, including eyewitness accounts and expert analysis about what actually happened.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:07 AM   #4
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the cnn footage shows the same thing.
i am sure there is some logical explanation though. As planes surely hit the towers.
Eye witnesses saw it.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:26 AM   #6
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I just checked the original footage showing the first video and the wing doesn't do behind any building. I think this video is fake.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:31 AM   #7
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So what did hit building 2?
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:36 AM   #8
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I just checked the original footage showing the first video and the wing doesn't do behind any building. I think this video is fake.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:39 AM   #9
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the argument the youtuber is trying to make isn't solid. the fact is if he claims that clip is cgi, then i can claim his clip is cgi. simple as that.

his clip is cgi.

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Old 09-16-2013, 06:41 AM   #10
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but as always, i am open to the facts, so if someone can prove that his youtube video is not cgi/altered, go for it! i want to believe!!!
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This shit has gotten so old....

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Old 09-16-2013, 06:48 AM   #12
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but as always, i am open to the facts, so if someone can prove that his youtube video is not cgi/altered, go for it! i want to believe!!!
i dont understand why it would be altered. Planes surely hit the building.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:52 AM   #13
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That building is between the camera and the tower. And why is this tool an expert on plane wings ability to slice through steel? He's a retard.

Case closed.
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i dont understand why it would be altered. Planes surely hit the building.
the building in the background is shown to be in front of the left wing in the youtuber's youtube.
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the argument the youtuber is trying to make isn't solid. the fact is if he claims that clip is cgi, then i can claim his clip is cgi. simple as that.

his clip is cgi.

see what i did there?

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His problem is that he doesn't understand three dimensional perspective.
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:58 AM   #16
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That building is between the camera and the tower. And why is this tool an expert on plane wings ability to slice through steel? He's a retard.

Case closed.
That doesn't make sense. More likely the wing was lost in shadow, and just looks like it disappears.

Were the buildings, all three of them, pre-loaded with explosives?

That is a debate i don't mind getting into...but won't...lol
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His problem is that he doesn't understand three dimensional perspective.
even better, the most simple answer is usually the right one.

i know with compression from telephoto lenses that this could be the case here. no alterations needed.
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Because I have nothing better to do today, let me show you how conspiracy nutters fuck themselves up by not doing their research.

Here's a pic of the area pre-attack. This is looking north towards uptown, because you can see the Empire state building in the distance. Note the tops of the buildings I've called out in the vid screen-cap, in respect to where they exist in lower Manhattan. The lens is very long, so the buildings appear to be the same size. But the two foreground buildings are in actuality very small compare to the twin towers -- as almost every building in the world is.



I say they're in the foreground, and not behind the twin towers(from the camera's view) because here's the flight path...



The plane swung around lower manhattan and went north, toward its target -- the south tower. If this guy would have spent 10 minutes on Google images, and looked at the geography, and had a basic understanding of camera lenses and perspective possibilities he would have still probably made this video --because he's a fucking idiot. Just like anyone else who believes it as soon as they see it.

Also, I know 2 people who watched the plane hit the south tower. They followed it with their eyeballs all the way to impact -- and they're not government cyborgs. I also know someone killed in the north tower(all his family has is a single vertebrae), and I was about a mile uptown when it happened. Not that it gives me any validity on the subject, but it drives me crazy to see all of these nutjobs who have never spent any time in New York trying to prove something didn't happen, when all of us who live in this area know it did. We're all connected to it in some way, whether we know someone who was killed, escaped, or saw it happen.
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Because I have nothing better to do today, let me show you how conspiracy nutters fuck themselves up by not doing their research.

Here's a pic of the area pre-attack. This is looking north towards uptown, because you can see the Empire state building in the distance. Note the tops of the buildings I've called out in the vid screen-cap, in respect to where they exist in lower Manhattan. The lens is very long, so the buildings appear to be the same size. But the two foreground buildings are in actuality very small compare to the twin towers -- as almost every building in the world is.



I say they're in the foreground, and not behind the twin towers(from the camera's view) because here's the flight path...



The plane swung around lower manhattan and went north, toward its target -- the south tower. If this guy would have spent 10 minutes on Google images, and looked at the geography, and had a basic understanding of camera lenses and perspective possibilities he would have still probably made this video --because he's a fucking idiot. Just like anyone else who believes it as soon as they see it.

Also, I know 2 people who watched the plane hit the south tower. They followed it with their eyeballs all the way to impact -- and they're not government cyborgs. I also know someone killed in the north tower(all his family has is a single vertebrae), and I was about a mile uptown when it happened. Not that it gives me any validity on the subject, but it drives me crazy to see all of these nutjobs who have never spent any time in New York trying to prove something didn't happen, when all of us who live in this area know it did. We're all connected to it in some way, whether we know someone who was killed, escaped, or saw it happen.
Well there you go..i didnt believe it was a faked video.
I just thought it was an easier explanation that the wing looks like it disappears in shadow.

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Old 09-16-2013, 07:57 AM   #22
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Looks like a plane to me. What point are you trying to make?

9/11 truthers crack me up.
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It was perfectly obvious that the building he CLAIMED was "clearly in the background" was in fact in the foreground. Unbelievably idiotic.

Hey, it's hard to believe that in hurricane force winds that sticks of wood can penetrate solid trees and buildings too. Evidently this person is relying on the absolute faith in his audience to believe anything that they hear spoken with confidence. My take? He should be a preacher. That's the best vocation for bullshit artists.
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this, first reply in the Comments:

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The apparent overlaying is caused by compression artifacts in the footage.
Codecs such as MPEG compression works by copying previous frames, so reducing file sizes. Only the moving areas are updated on a frame by frame basis. As the plane was moving and the building was not, it took a frame or so to catch up, so it appeared that the building was in front of the plane.
Anybody with the most rudimentary knowledge of digital video would know this.
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Actually, the wing does do what it appears to do in the video. It gets obscured by the building. There's no artifacting -- although what that commenter said is true when it comes to video compression.
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if the clip really was fake then the faker did a fantastic job, watch as the plane passes the cloud of dust from the first strike, you can just see slight wind disturbance from the wing affecting the dust. that is an amazing attention to detail from the "faker"!
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nice to see a few of us finally on the same page re: 9/11
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I was listening to some of the people in the back ground of those videos. Sounds like there sure was some question about that second airplane.
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I was listening to some of the people in the back ground of those videos. Sounds like there sure was some question about that second airplane.
"Why is it heading toward that building?"
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compression for those videos are awful.

I was looking at something during the japanese earthquakes/tsunami that was either a rocket/bizarre big ass fucking bird, that viewed in HD turned out to be a helicopter
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Still hard to imagine this being taken seriously. If that building was in the background, it would be so much taller than the twin towers. Just... like... wtf..
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the argument the youtuber is trying to make isn't solid. the fact is if he claims that clip is cgi, then i can claim his clip is cgi. simple as that.

his clip is cgi.

see what i did there?

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Problem solved.

Can we move onto JFK or the moon walk from here on out?
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Your title is misleading. You haven't always thought it was a plane... you're just saying that to try and add credibility you'll never have.

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Problem solved.

Can we move onto JFK or the moon walk from here on out?
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