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Old 05-31-2015, 06:57 AM   #1351
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The court of public opinion has gotten things very wrong before - it's possible (however remote) that the girls got pissed off, didn't want him around, or for whatever reason falsely accused him of rape. Maybe he is just a very forgiving soul and sent the letter to the girls to let them know that they won't get in trouble for backing out of their lies.

Underage girls have definitely been known to wield the power of false sex abuse allegations before - it's happened to MANY MANY step-dads in the past just because girls wanted to get them out of the picture.

Just playing devils advocate here (not that the Devil would advocate for this Jesus-Freak) I'm not at all Pro-Donny, just pro-fair in the justice system.
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Old 05-31-2015, 06:59 AM   #1352
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He's been sitting in jail while we all laugh at him for 6 months now.
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gfy isn't the justice system. fyi.
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Old 05-31-2015, 07:11 AM   #1354
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gfy isn't the justice system. fyi.
It isn't? Oh shit I've been wrong all along
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If he did the crime he ought to just man up and admit it. It's even more despicable to call the victims liars and to harass them in an effort to save his own skin.
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:34 AM   #1357
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The court of public opinion has gotten things very wrong before - it's possible (however remote) that the girls got pissed off, didn't want him around, or for whatever reason falsely accused him of rape. Maybe he is just a very forgiving soul and sent the letter to the girls to let them know that they won't get in trouble for backing out of their lies.

Underage girls have definitely been known to wield the power of false sex abuse allegations before - it's happened to MANY MANY step-dads in the past just because girls wanted to get them out of the picture.

Just playing devils advocate here (not that the Devil would advocate for this Jesus-Freak) I'm not at all Pro-Donny, just pro-fair in the justice system.
Have you not read the thread? How do you explain the boyfriend? How do you explain unconnected victims?
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:37 AM   #1358
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Have you not read the thread? How do you explain the boyfriend? How do you explain unconnected victims?
So it looks to you as if I'm defending him or saying he's innocent?

He seems like a dumb pedo slime to me - I was only saying that there is a remote chance they are lying.

And no I couldnt read it all (28 pages!) - what about the boyfriend and unconnected victims - I missed that part.
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:46 AM   #1359
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This is so incredibly bad I couldn't stop watching it for a least a solid minute. I thought it must be a parody but it's not. "Which seat can I take?"

I understand it's made for 12 years olds but are 12 year olds in this country really that retarded?
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Old 05-31-2015, 09:33 AM   #1360
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He sent one of the girls a seven page letter saying she "wouldn't have to admit she was lying" if she told the court what Donny wants her to say. WTF?
No. He sent the letter to a friend of one of the girls.
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:19 AM   #1361
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The court of public opinion has gotten things very wrong before - it's possible (however remote) that the girls got pissed off,.
you have a valid point. I have done business with Donny so I doubt very seriously he is 'innocent', at the very least he has been totally inappropriate... also bear in mind there are no underage girls in porn but the church..... well that's a different story for sure
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If he did the crime he ought to just man up and admit it. It's even more despicable to call the victims liars and to harass them in an effort to save his own skin.
guys that fuck kids and then threaten them are not going to 'man up' on anything...
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The court of public opinion has gotten things very wrong before - it's possible (however remote) that the girls got pissed off, didn't want him around, or for whatever reason falsely accused him of rape. Maybe he is just a very forgiving soul and sent the letter to the girls to let them know that they won't get in trouble for backing out of their lies.

Underage girls have definitely been known to wield the power of false sex abuse allegations before - it's happened to MANY MANY step-dads in the past just because girls wanted to get them out of the picture.

Just playing devils advocate here (not that the Devil would advocate for this Jesus-Freak) I'm not at all Pro-Donny, just pro-fair in the justice system.

This is not "two friends who made up stories to get Donny in trouble". Claims were made and dismissed due to lack of evidence. Then during a completely different investigation in a different county, unrelated to Donny, unrelated to the original girls, new claims and new evidence came to light. They were investigating a local Sheriff when it was exposed that this Sheriff watched Donny engage in sex acts with an under aged girl. That's when a full investigation was launched, Donny was arrested, and THEN they went back to the original victims and started to investigate them and decided to there was enough evidence to file yet more charges.
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This is not "two friends who made up stories to get Donny in trouble". Claims were made and dismissed due to lack of evidence. Then during a completely different investigation in a different county, unrelated to Donny, unrelated to the original girls, new claims and new evidence came to light. They were investigating a local Sheriff when it was exposed that this Sheriff watched Donny engage in sex acts with an under aged girl. That's when a full investigation was launched, Donny was arrested, and THEN they went back to the original victims and started to investigate them and decided to there was enough evidence to file yet more charges.

Without seeing that evidence, the only thing we all know for a fact is what Donny admitted himself to the reporter that interviewed him right after he was busted.

In the context of that alone I think Donny is pretty screwed without having to prove anything else, but that is just my layman's opinion.
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I resent the updated portion of the thread to Donny, this time using properly sized paper about 10 days ago; I also resent using tedious white envelopes that way they are partitioned. If he does reply I'll hear it before Friday most likely.

He has up to post #1357

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Without seeing that evidence, the only thing we all know for a fact is what Donny admitted himself to the reporter that interviewed him right after he was busted.

In the context of that alone I think Donny is pretty screwed without having to prove anything else, but that is just my layman's opinion.
I don't think he can help it. Being in jail and bored out of your mind just makes it worse.
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I resent the updated portion of the thread to Donny, this time using properly sized paper about 10 days ago; I also resent using tedious white envelopes that way they are partitioned. If he does reply I'll hear it before Friday most likely.
He has up to post #1357
I don't think he can help it. Being in jail and bored out of your mind just makes it worse.
Weird so you are sending this thread as letters to Donny in Jail?

So this means that Donny will read what I am typing at this very moment?

OK then look, Donny boy I'm one of the few in this thread that has said there is a chance that these girls are lying and that you are innocent (I feel like the odds are 99-1 that you are guilty but hey I'm saying there is a chance) SO you can trust that I have no ill will against you when I advise you to:

SHUT THE FUCK UP - DON'T WRITE ANY LETTERS OR TALK TO THE MEDIA OR ANYONE!!! Talk only to your counsel and follow their advice - even the worst turd of a public defender must be way smarter than you so do what they say OK.

Also you should do 1000 situps a day and 1000 push ups, you will need some toughness to survive in there. Start a fight or something, you may get fucked up but in doing so earn some respect. Good luck to you I truly feel bad for you even if you fucked those young girls.












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Weird so you are sending this thread as letters to Donny in Jail?
How about you read the thread, you quoted my post from a while with the music video. If not then start at page 22 of this thread.

Pure entertainment and fucking awesome in my book.
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Pure entertainment and fucking awesome in my book.
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Weird so you are sending this thread as letters to Donny in Jail?

So this means that Donny will read what I am typing at this very moment?

OK then look, Donny boy I'm one of the few in this thread that has said there is a chance that these girls are lying and that you are innocent (I feel like the odds are 99-1 that you are guilty but hey I'm saying there is a chance) SO you can trust that I have no ill will against you when I advise you to:

SHUT THE FUCK UP - DON'T WRITE ANY LETTERS OR TALK TO THE MEDIA OR ANYONE!!! Talk only to your counsel and follow their advice - even the worst turd of a public defender must be way smarter than you so do what they say OK.

Also you should do 1000 situps a day and 1000 push ups, you will need some toughness to survive in there. Start a fight or something, you may get fucked up but in doing so earn some respect. Good luck to you I truly feel bad for you even if you fucked those young girls.

Oh yea and there is no god and Jesus fucked hookers.
Might just be the best advice ever.
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why the fuck would any porner give that dumbfuckwad advice.
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Hmm, I sent the thread a 2nd time and made damn sure there was no nudity. Rochard's topless pic of the girl feeding him I took a black marker and gave her a artistic one-piece.
Maybe ads that have pussycash or other words are what trigger it. He goes into detail in this letter. This also means he hasn't read all the twisted analysis after the original letter.

Donny does make a good point about how the press and prosecution could really care less about the absolute truth and only care about a conviction; Granted he is a porner, well former, and that already gives you two strikes.






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Another interesting point is it sounds like he has a plea deal he could do 6 months and then be out.
I had a former friend that took that option when he was arrested for some kind of child endangerment after 2 years from the initial event. The kid got a broken arm and they took him to the ER. You should really dress nicely if that happens, shitty clothes and some tattoos will make people think your guilty.

Looks like he might have a short sentence if he cops to a charge but of course all of his evangelical work would be finished, and he'd have some kind of sex offender record I'm sure of.

On the other hand if he gets charged and convicted... who knows. All this speculation is just mental masturbation.
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Can someone like the squealer read his bullshit and paraphrase is pleas

Preferably in point form.
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paraphrase of the "intimidation" letter:

1) Letter was a reply to a girl who wrote him
2) The recipient of letter was not "friendly" with victim for 3 years
3) Recipient of letter and her mother posted on Donny's facebook page saying they know the other girl is lying
4) Recipient of letter is 18 years old
5) Judge who set bail didn't read the letter, just took DA's word Donny was using intimidation in the letter
6) Article about threatening letter implies letter was reason for high bail. CV-1 bail set at 500K because girl claimed Donny was going to kill himself. CV-2 bail set at 500K because girl claimed Donny was going to hurt her boyfriend and CV-3 bail set at 25K because she said Donny did not threaten her or himself.
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Correct me if I am wrong here. I understand why he claims he is innocent, however, at one point didn't Donny say that the officer asked him to have sex with his daughter while he watched and he turned him down and tried to "help" him and then later change his story and say that he was actually never asked?

It seems like his story changes every time he tells it.
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A series of poor decision making all around
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Everything Donny puts into print has the potential to find it's way to his trial.
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Let's just say for the sake of conversation that everything in Donny's letter (in the above post) is true. It's still really REALLY dumb to be saying this stuff.
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Everything Donny puts into print has the potential to find it's way to his trial.
I've only consulted with a lawyer once in something I could have been accounted for criminally. He said to never ever talk about anything outside of the meeting I had with him, attorney client privilege, "STFU" he said.

SHUT THE FUCK UP
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Another home run Johnny!

Did you contact the reporter?
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Point #4... she's a friend who is 18 now, which means he considered her a friend when she was a minor. What middle age guy has a bunch of 16 year old's as friends? What would he even have in common with them?

Doubly concerning considering the charges against him.
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Another interesting point is it sounds like he has a plea deal he could do 6 months and then be out.
That would be really fucked up if that is the case.
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That would be really fucked up if that is the case.
I don't know what the case is, but my former friend faced that or 10-15 years in prison. For most jobs your life is ruined once you get that sex offender registration (which would probably be mandatory with his deal). As long as he had internet access and limited restrictions on that you can always do something online.

Donny is somewhat delusional and overwhelmingly narcissistic, but he is smart.
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Point #4... she's a friend who is 18 now, which means he considered her a friend when she was a minor. What middle age guy has a bunch of 16 year old's as friends? What would he even have in common with them?

Doubly concerning considering the charges against him.
Any guy hanging out with young girls wants to fuck them. Who hangs out with pretty young girls because they're stimulating conversationalists? Nobody. I've been tempted several times to just outright say to certain people that they aren't doing it because they think the girls are interesting or for good will.

If you're into 16 yos fine, but don't go masquerading in God's word or as a softball coach, that's the part that pisses me off!

Some men will go to extremes. One of my toastmaster groups has retired professionals and one guy is into ballroom dancing and likes the graduate students. I guess he really started liking this black girl in Africa that was 17. He paid thousands of dollars to have her fly here and drove his car down to Texas to pick her up. She was extremely hostile with him because all his ultimate goal was to have sex with her. What makes it so creepy is he is over 60.
I guess he conspired in his sister that he really wanted to sleep with her... So much for that and trying to woo her, throwing a birthday party she failed to show up. Turns out she was relatively nice, her behavior was just a method to keep the old man off of her.
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Another home run Johnny!

Did you contact the reporter?
I should. Free Donny!!!
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I should. Free Donny!!!
you should. For the same reason they reported on the other letter
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Any guy hanging out with young girls wants to fuck them. Who hangs out with pretty young girls because they're stimulating conversationalists? Nobody. I've been tempted several times to just outright say to certain people that they aren't doing it because they think the girls are interesting or for good will.

If you're into 16 yos fine, but don't go masquerading in God's word or as a softball coach, that's the part that pisses me off!

Some men will go to extremes. One of my toastmaster groups has retired professionals and one guy is into ballroom dancing and likes the graduate students. I guess he really started liking this black girl in Africa that was 17. He paid thousands of dollars to have her fly here and drove his car down to Texas to pick her up. She was extremely hostile with him because all his ultimate goal was to have sex with her. What makes it so creepy is he is over 60.
I guess he conspired in his sister that he really wanted to sleep with her... So much for that and trying to woo her, throwing a birthday party she failed to show up. Turns out she was relatively nice, her behavior was just a method to keep the old man off of her.
Agreed. We all must remember that Donny said a year before "finding God" that he was going to scam the church. I think this all may have been an elaborate ploy to hang around kids without parents becoming suspicious. It's quite sickening when you think about it.

Yeah, the intentions of that 60 year old guy were far from pure.
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I don't know what the case is, but my former friend faced that or 10-15 years in prison. For most jobs your life is ruined once you get that sex offender registration (which would probably be mandatory with his deal). As long as he had internet access and limited restrictions on that you can always do something online.

Donny is somewhat delusional and overwhelmingly narcissistic, but he is smart.
I never bothered firing up the sex offender app before moving to my place in Florida. Turns out I had one three doors down. He was the creepiest guy. You didn't even have to know he was on the registry to get the creeper vibe.

On more than one occasion I saw him sneaking what appeared to be minors (I'd guess 14 to 16 year old's) in the little passage way behind his place. I called the cops, but as far as I know, nothing came of it.

The city I was living in changed the law so that sex offenders could not live anywhere in the city limits because they'd always be too close to a school or church. That was done by design, as however many feet it was guaranteed every house was within that distance of one or the other. Unfortunately, he was grandfathered in, and despite wanting to move, he would not for that very reason. He could not move anywhere else in the city and still be grandfathered in.
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Donny is somewhat delusional and overwhelmingly narcissistic, but he is smart.
I would hardly call Donny smart.
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Shit, missed this thread. What did I miss?
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Any guy hanging out with young girls wants to fuck them. Who hangs out with pretty young girls because they're stimulating conversationalists? Nobody. I've been tempted several times to just outright say to certain people that they aren't doing it because they think the girls are interesting or for good will.

If you're into 16 yos fine, but don't go masquerading in God's word or as a softball coach, that's the part that pisses me off!

Some men will go to extremes. One of my toastmaster groups has retired professionals and one guy is into ballroom dancing and likes the graduate students. I guess he really started liking this black girl in Africa that was 17. He paid thousands of dollars to have her fly here and drove his car down to Texas to pick her up. She was extremely hostile with him because all his ultimate goal was to have sex with her. What makes it so creepy is he is over 60.
I guess he conspired in his sister that he really wanted to sleep with her... So much for that and trying to woo her, throwing a birthday party she failed to show up. Turns out she was relatively nice, her behavior was just a method to keep the old man off of her.
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90% of the letters the jailers didn't even open them up to exam them, pisses me off.

They have RB on them all, Return Back.

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On another note, I'll notify the reporter he told me about.

In addition to that I'll send him one final hand written letter and make some suggestions to him on taking a plea based off of my former friend's experience.
I'll also send him some farewell books.
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90% of the letters the jailers didn't even open them up to exam them, pisses me off.

They have RB on them all, Return Back.

Not that it matters, but I'm pretty sure that's RTS for Return To Sender. Return Back would be pretty redundant.
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Not that it matters, but I'm pretty sure that's RTS for Return To Sender. Return Back would be pretty redundant.
Well Whoopty fucking doooo!!!!!



Now that you mention it, RTS (Return To Sender).
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Good work Johnny. Please keep us updated.
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On another note, I'll notify the reporter he told me about.

In addition to that I'll send him one final hand written letter and make some suggestions to him on taking a plea based off of my former friend's experience.
I'll also send him some farewell books.
If Donny takes a plea deal he will be listed as a sex offender for the rest of his life. At the very lest he'll be unable to do any work with his church, and at worst he'll have difficulty getting any kind of a job.

Personally I would like to see this all go to trial - I want to know the details.
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If Donny takes a plea deal he will be listed as a sex offender for the rest of his life. At the very lest he'll be unable to do any work with his church, and at worst he'll have difficulty getting any kind of a job.

Personally I would like to see this all go to trial - I want to know the details.
Only he knows the truth, I'm a person that doesn't like gambling or playing the lottery generally because I'm a person that understands risk/reward and math.

I don't know the legal system extremely well because I've rarely had any run ins with the law other than a handful of traffic violations.
A sex offender charge sucks but I would take that if my situation wasn't looking good and it meant only 6 months (time already served in his case) versus doing 10-15 and getting the charges anyway. Unless he is utterly innocent and knows it... but considering past history this is unlikely.

If he had lots of money there wouldn't be any problem, and he'd get a kickass attorney. Keeping your mouth shut helps too.
If he lived in a different country and had money he could have bought himself out. One GFYer that was banned off of here was arrested for fucking high school aged girls (when he wasn't photographing them) in a South American country, it wasn't discussed outright but over about a 6 months time period and because he had money he was able to get out.

Almost everyone will frown on Donny for the circumstances he's created, what I find revolting is the whole preachy/godly stance he has taken. Religious repression always double backs in people acting out in extra devious ways.
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And here we go again with some more crazy.....

The police officer involved in Donny's - Capt. Lewis McElfresh - waived his right to a preliminary hearing. Why would ANYONE ever do that? Innocent or guilty, if you can prevent a case from going to trail why wouldn't you?

Here is where the crazy comes in....

McElfresh is charged with five felonies — burglary, arranging a meeting with a minor for the purpose of immoral acts, unlawful sex with a minor, child endangerment and providing a firearm to a convicted felon — and misdemeanor indecent exposure and annoying or molesting a minor.

Most of the charges involve a single incident in which he allegedly masturbated while watching another defendant, Donny Pauling, have sex with a minor. Pauling is facing three criminal cases for sexual acts against minor teen girls, including the incident involving McElfresh.

"Lewis McElfresh loves (the minor), and he would never do anything to harm her," Santana said Thursday.


Wait, what? He "loves" the minor? That's a special kind of crazy right there.

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McElfresh case to trial after prelim is waived - Appeal-Democrat: News

I have to admit it will be interesting to see all of this play out in court.
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