pink slime...whats the big deal?

[Joshua G]

This movement against lean, finely textured beef is one of the biggest moron-a-thons of the decade. almost as dumb as invading Iraq.

first, the shit is safe to eat. its has been served to the public for years. Nobody even noticed. Nobody got sick, nobody dropped dead.

second, plenty of other processed meat products contain chemicals nobody ever heard of, & can't even say. preservatives, sweeteners, food colorings. Gummy bears contain carnauba wax, the same shit gearheads use to wax their cars.

american moms are raising the fattest children ever created on earth. 4 year old kids at the mall are eating french fries. Flaming hypocrisy.

This is all happening because the media calls it "pink slime." Compared to what most people eat, its probably health food.

[L-Pink]

Good, for a minute I thought this was going to be a vaginal discharge thread.

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[baddog]

The people are tired of big business trying to feed the world. We have too many people as it is. Starvation is the answer. Using chemistry to feed the world is not right. It should be survival of the fittest.

[bash]

It's not so much the chemical additives as what the beef by-products they are dissolving in ammonia look like in their originals state. They would gag a maggot, and this is what is grossing people out.

[EddyTheDog]

......nobody dropped dead......

Are you serious?

[PornoMonster]

Thanks to Facebook, people are seeing what has been safe to eat for years. Kinda like don't ask what is in the Gumbo in New Orleans...

Every one jumps on some bandwagon these days
KONY
Now the group going after the person who killed the black kid.

Looks like the lynching mobs are back for everything. I heard processing plants are closing now because of consumer out cry. Well, now they can bitch at higher prices when the cheap meat is gone.

[MrBottomTooth]

Isn't the issue that the meat is very poor quality then soaked in ammonia to remove salmonella, ecoli, etc?

Just sounds like a horrible idea to me. If it raises the cost of a Whopper by a $1.50 to use meat not soaked in ammonia then so be it. I'm gonna take a wild guess it would taste better as well.

The reason some people are so up in arms about it is probably because most people never knew about it before. When they see the ugly truth about how their cheap burgers are made it probably makes them sick to their stomachs.

[PornoMonster]

Read both sides or 3 I guess

http://beefproductsinc.files.wordpre...sj_ad-fnl1.pdf

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by baddog

The people are tired of big business trying to feed the world. We have too many people as it is. Starvation is the answer. Using chemistry to feed the world is not right. It should be survival of the fittest.

i beg to differ. once the pentagon perfects AI, & builds a race of machines that wipes out the human race, forcing rebels underground, humans will have to rely on a synthetic goo created by monsanto to survive. I hear it tastes like runny eggs.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Isn't the issue that the meat is very poor quality then soaked in ammonia to remove salmonella, ecoli, etc?

Just sounds like a horrible idea to me. If it raises the cost of a Whopper by a $1.50 to use meat not soaked in ammonia then so be it. I'm gonna take a wild guess it would taste better as well.

The reason some people are so up in arms about it is probably because most people never knew about it before. When they see the ugly truth about how their cheap burgers are made it probably makes them sick to their stomachs.

what you say is correct. But pink slime is just the tip of the iceberg if the public is going to suddenly worry about what they are eating. Some of what sells in the supermarket is completely synthetic. Enough so that a company named "whole foods" is carving out a niche in actual food.

it also makes no sense to reject pink slime & eat at mcdonalds.

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[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

it also makes no sense to reject pink slime & eat at mcdonalds.

McDonald's said they stopped buying beef with pink slime a couple of months ago, but fast food like McDonald's is still unhealthy, any way you look at it.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Good, for a minute I thought this was going to be a vaginal discharge thread.

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[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

fast food like McDonald's is still unhealthy, any way you look at it.

[Choopa Phil]

We are all given a choice of what to eat and what not to eat.

[Tom_PM]

I'm glad that my local supermarkets will no longer carry pink slimed meat products. And good for someone calling it "pink slime" which is a proper name for what it is.

We knew decades ago that there was no part of a chicken called a "nugget". It's ground up carcass. bon appetite

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

We are all given a choice of what to eat and what not to eat.

Exactly. I vote with my wallet. I buy stuff that I like to eat and that I consider ok to eat. If other people want to eat stuff that I consider unhealthy, well that's their business. If a store or restaurant doesn't sell the stuff that I prefer to eat then I simply go elsewhere.

[Tom_PM]

Problem with this stuff is there was no requirement to label a product as containing it. Therefore the consumer had/has no way to make that informed choice. Shady as fuck is a saying that could apply.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

We are all given a choice of what to eat and what not to eat.

you can only select using the information you have at hand. fast food chains are not going to come out and say we use this stuff. apparently even some supermarket ground beef contains it, so how are you supposed to make an informed choice when consumers aren't being informed about what they are purchasing?

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you can only select using the information you have at hand. fast food chains are not going to come out and say we use this stuff. apparently even some supermarket ground beef contains it, so how are you supposed to make an informed choice when consumers aren't being informed about what they are purchasing?

Well I'm not really all that stupid so not eating at a fast food chain isnt really all that hard to figure out. And when i buy my beef its either from the butcher or its whole pieces of meat not some mystery chop meat thats 70% Beef 30% fat. I buy nothing processed.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Well I'm not really all that stupid so not eating at a fast food chain isnt really all that hard to figure out. And when i buy my beef its either from the butcher or its whole pieces of meat not some mystery chop meat thats 70% Beef 30% fat. I buy nothing processed.

so unless everyone buys like you, they don't deserve to know? thats your logic?..

[Choopa Phil]

They have every right to know, but its basic common knowledge that food is tampered with especially things which are processed and or made in such mass quantities. I educated myself, why cant everyone else? Ignorance is not an arguement

[porno jew]

no one was aware of it before. now they are aware. simple. you are free to find pink slime and eat it though.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

They have every right to know, but its basic common knowledge that food is tampered with especially things which are processed and or made in such mass quantities. I educated myself, why cant everyone else? Ignorance is not an arguement

i like making my own burgers, i buy extra lean ground beef and have no idea if that stuff is in or not. do you have your own meat grinder or something or just don't eat that kind of stuff at all? i think the information should be mandatory so even the most dimwitted individual can see what they are purchasing is actually made of.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Problem with this stuff is there was no requirement to label a product as containing it. Therefore the consumer had/has no way to make that informed choice. Shady as fuck is a saying that could apply.

The problem isn't the lack of requirements to put certain information on the label. Some of the problem's are actually caused by the labeling requirements.

Let's say there are no requirements to label your product. If as a producer you want to convince potential customers to buy your product, a correct label makes perfect sense as a way to set your product apart from all others. Especially when people are worried about what they eat.

If as a consumer, you don't know what you are buying then simply don't buy it. We all have a personal responsibility to ourselves. If some people prefer "cheap and fast" over "more expensive and well informed", then that is their choice.

Personally, I don't buy meat at a supermarket, but a a couple of local butcher shops. People I know, people i have done business with for a very long time, people others have recommended to me etc.

If there are no labeling requirements and a producer does label his products but puts false information on his labels then that producer is committing an act of fraud and he can be sued for that.

The problem with the labeling requirements for food these days is that they allow producers to put incorrect information on the labels. Most big producers of food also have their lobbyists at work and laws an regulations aren't always what they pretend to be. Most food labeling regulations allow for a 0.5% margin of error. This means that some manufacturers can now legally put "0% of chemical XYZ" or "Chemical ABC free" on their labels even when they know the product contains 0.4% or 0.3% or 0.4999% of those chemicals.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Well I'm not really all that stupid so not eating at a fast food chain isnt really all that hard to figure out. And when i buy my beef its either from the butcher or its whole pieces of meat not some mystery chop meat thats 70% Beef 30% fat. I buy nothing processed.

Maybe, but without proper and thorough labeling, you still don't know where your meat comes from. You don't know if it has been injected with growth hormones (and if so, which ones, and how much). You don't know what that meat was fed. You don't know what antibiotics it was given (and which ones and how much).

Sounds silly, but that's the case across the board. Almost none of our foods are labeled to let us know if genetically modified ingredients are present for example. Now it turns out that much of the food at Whole Foods are now genetically modified too!

If you think that everything is safe to eat, cool. But on the other hand if you want to avoid some things, and you want to know specifically what you are eating, good luck with that!

[Choopa Phil]

yes, if you buy your meat from a place where you dont know where it comes from. Something I do not and educated myself on...Its pretty well known theres too many people in this world and not enough food to feed them. So the only way is with science.

[Tom_PM]

I'd always wondered why the 90/10 ground beef (thats what the label says) was more fatty than the 80/20 ground beef from the other supermarket. Maybe pink slime was the reason. Luckily I dont eat fast food or 12+ yrs now and only get beef once every few months and stretch it out lightly. But STILL..

It's like them pretending that high fructose corn syrup is exactly the same as cane sugar. They are on a marketing campaign, even trying to re-brand it as "corn sugar" (which is the name of a product that has existed for many decades by the way). They use girl-next-door acrtresses standing near sunny corn fields smiling happily while telling you your body can't tell the difference. Bull.

As I say in grumpy old man mode more than once, the FDA is the place you go to get your approved sticker from a corporate point of view. From a consumer point of view? It's your vanishing safety watch dog with one blind eye and one crossed eye.

[Tom_PM]

It's also been true forever that any product containing 2 or fewer calories may legally label itself as zero calories. Thats not a problem with overly strict labeling req's, it's a problem with lobbying and greasing the palms.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

It's also been true forever that any product containing 2 or fewer calories may legally label itself as zero calories. Thats not a problem with overly strict labeling req's, it's a problem with lobbying and greasing the palms.

As long as regulations impact business, there will be lobbyists and palms will be greased.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

As long as regulations impact business, there will be lobbyists and palms will be greased.

yes get rid of any regulations for food safety. once large parts of the population are made sick and killed by unsafe food the market will then decide. sounds like a great idea.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I'm glad that my local supermarkets will no longer carry pink slimed meat products. And good for someone calling it "pink slime" which is a proper name for what it is.

We knew decades ago that there was no part of a chicken called a "nugget". It's ground up carcass. bon appetite

what do you think a hamburger is? or sausage for that matter?

not saying those are healthy choices but they aren't exactly poison either.

[SykkBoy]

The great side benefit of this is without pink slime, the prices go up and people either pay the higher price or..god forbid...cut down on their beef consumption.

If people would cut their beef consumption down by 2-3 ounces per portion and add in some extra salad or veggies, they'd be healthier.

[AllAboutCams]

who gives a fuck if you dont want to eat it dont
go eat some fucking carrots

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Maybe, but without proper and thorough labeling, you still don't know where your meat comes from. You don't know if it has been injected with growth hormones (and if so, which ones, and how much). You don't know what that meat was fed. You don't know what antibiotics it was given (and which ones and how much).

Sounds silly, but that's the case across the board. Almost none of our foods are labeled to let us know if genetically modified ingredients are present for example. Now it turns out that much of the food at Whole Foods are now genetically modified too!

If you think that everything is safe to eat, cool. But on the other hand if you want to avoid some things, and you want to know specifically what you are eating, good luck with that!

what's your point? eat nothing at all? stick with carrots grown in your back yard?

let me spoil the surprise for you, nothing is pure.. worrying about everything is far worse for your health than any fast food you are going to eat.

[adult_text_links]

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[AllAboutCams]

why is everyone so against gm food?
do you really think that fruit/veg/meat in the shops looked like that 1000 years ago
everything we eat today has been modified in some way

[OY]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

This movement against lean, finely textured beef is one of the biggest moron-a-thons of the decade. almost as dumb as invading Iraq.

first, the shit is safe to eat. its has been served to the public for years. Nobody even noticed. Nobody got sick, nobody dropped dead.

second, plenty of other processed meat products contain chemicals nobody ever heard of, & can't even say. preservatives, sweeteners, food colorings. Gummy bears contain carnauba wax, the same shit gearheads use to wax their cars.

american moms are raising the fattest children ever created on earth. 4 year old kids at the mall are eating french fries. Flaming hypocrisy.

This is all happening because the media calls it "pink slime." Compared to what most people eat, its probably health food.

Will you eat it?

[Tom_PM]

"ground beef" is what appears on the label, so that's what it should contain. If the label said "ground beef and pink slime" then thats what it should contain. That's very easy.

[KillerK]

You should look up what Meat Glue is and does.

[RebelR]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

why is everyone so against gm food?
do you really think that fruit/veg/meat in the shops looked like that 1000 years ago
everything we eat today has been modified in some way

Big difference between cross breeding same species plants, and injecting scorpion DNA into your vegetables.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by OY

Will you eat it?

good question.

If i have no choice, i would eat it & not worry about it. I eat mcnuggets, i eat candy, i eat things that are definitely just as garbage as low grade ground beef.

if pink slime is sitting next to a porterhouse at the market, then my choice is clear. But my choice would be based on preference, not the fake fearmongering coming from the critics.

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[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

why is everyone so against gm food?
do you really think that fruit/veg/meat in the shops looked like that 1000 years ago
everything we eat today has been modified in some way

seems like fear of the unknown. one issue is that things tend not to be regulated until its too late. ephedra, for example. A lot of people dropped dead before the govt cared, & even then it took a major league pitcher dropping dead to get the FDA to ban it.

[InfoGuy]

There's a famous hot dog & hamburger joint in Hollywood called Pink's. The media frenzy about pink slime can't be good for their business.

[globofun]

I just ate a full bag of Oreo cookies......and that white slime was delicious!

[Overload]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Well, now they can bitch at higher prices when the cheap meat is gone.

cheap meat is a LIE! YOU all pay for it in many ways ... by subsiding farmers growing corn (which is used to feed the MOOO creatures - corn is UNNATURAL food for 'em!) ... by eating meat from unhealthy cattle (ecoli 137 comes to mind) ... by paying the doc to help yer obese kids ... and so on and on ... it is NOT CHEAP!

[BFT3K]

Beef Products Inc. Comeback: It's Not 'Pink Slime'; It's Safe, Nutritious and 'It's Beef'

Beef Products Inc., maker of the ground beef filler USDA scientists nicknamed "pink slime," plans to launch a consumer education program aimed to restore confidence in the product it calls lean finely textured beef and the process it uses to sanitize and separate beef from meat scraps formerly used in pet food and cooking oil.

Story here...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/beef-...2#.T3Kb9d03xy0

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

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[hadden]

Originally Posted by baddog

The people are tired of big business trying to feed the world. We have too many people as it is. Starvation is the answer. Using chemistry to feed the world is not right. It should be survival of the fittest.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

For a minute I thought this was going to be a vaginal discharge thread.

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I too found myself disappointed by the thread title

[CaptainHowdy]