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Old 10-20-2015, 06:39 PM   #101
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:43 PM   #102
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Harper wasn't good, it was all smoke and mirrors. Yes, if you are the top 1% it's great but overall his stats were poor and his policies didn't work.


6 charts show Stephen Harper has the worst economic record of any Prime Minister since World War II
One of my favourite dumb Harper stats was showing job growth was way up (when it was in fact way down) their report used raw kiji and Craigslist data, which as anyone here could understand the jobs posted are mostly email harvesting scams...
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isn't Alberta's economy the biggest of all the Canadian provinces? .
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oh you foolish electric car boy. the oilsands aren't going anywhere and neither is oil. the dip in oil prices will hurt the economy for sure but there is so much investment in the oil sands they aren't going to just close shop. and they are far from the most "disgusting" polluters on the planet. no liberal or any government is going to turn their backs on such a revenue source.
What I'm saying, is that first, the oil companies in Alberta don't deserve the business. They can be profitable sure, but they leave such a huge mess behind them because their idea of being clean is a joke.

I've always said that we'll never be rid of oil. I'm an EV boy to be sure but I know oil is here to stay. I just wish it could be used more efficiently, without so much pollution, and sold to us by companies that actually give a shit about the planet. None do, so fuck'em, I stopped buying.
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:15 PM   #104
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What I'm saying, is that first, the oil companies in Alberta don't deserve the business. They can be profitable sure, but they leave such a huge mess behind them because their idea of being clean is a joke.

I've always said that we'll never be rid of oil. I'm an EV boy to be sure but I know oil is here to stay. I just wish it could be used more efficiently, without so much pollution, and sold to us by companies that actually give a shit about the planet. None do, so fuck'em, I stopped buying.
You're a complete idiot it's not even funny.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:49 AM   #105
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you still pay taxes of course? why do you feel you don't have the right to choose the leadership?

no bs here, i am in the same boat as you and curious
I do not pay taxes in Canada anymore. My residence and employment are in Slovakia.

If I had some big investments back home, then I would likely vote for whatever was most favorable for those businesses financially. This is where my decision to not vote comes in. There are many more important reasons to vote for a leader beyond who will save you the most in taxes. Why should my friends and family have to live under a bad leader that I voted for, just so I could save some money. I likely wouldn't even use that money in Canada!

Think of all the people who use the Canadian system but live somewhere else. Healthcare, welfare, etc. Canadians who live in Canada are paying for those benefits with their tax dollars just because someone came for a few years, brought their family, and then keep some cheap little apartment as a residence and go live somewhere else.

It was my choice to leave Canada and it's my choice not to affect the political landscape. I believe this should go for every country. Only those who have to live under an elected official should get to vote. I know it's an unpopular opinion and I am ok with that.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:51 AM   #106
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I didn't dig anywhere. It's his genetic makeup.

Is this really who you want with their finger on the button?

The button that orders another Labatts.
Gross. Not all Canadians enjoy Canadian beer
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Old 10-21-2015, 01:55 AM   #107
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His plan seems to be running huge deficits. The liberals are great at that.
maybe they can do some massive one time sales to artificially produce a surplus, coughcough
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According to this thread legal weed sales will fill the financial gap from sharply declining oil prices. That would need to be a LOT of weed
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:35 AM   #109
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Congrats to PM Trudeau! Not only does Canada finally have a majority government, but relations with many other countries will improve now that the ass-clown Harper is on his way out. It's time for something fresh and Justin will do a better job at stimulating the economy than his deficit-creating predecessor.

Whether you like his father or not, he was very well respected by other global leaders and one of the most popular/recognizable PMs the country had in the last 50 years. Just the amount of campaigning the Liberals (and NDP) did to encourage people, especially youth, to vote speaks volumes for the kind of changes Canadians can expect.

Although I did not vote, I was very happy with the results. I was expecting a coalition between a minority Liberal gov't and the NDP, but this is even better. I hope to see the NDP grow further and eventually take the number 2 spot in coming years.
Well said, my friend! I hope for the same!
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Old 10-21-2015, 09:17 AM   #110
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If you knew Canadian politics - you'd know the "long string of very bad decisions" always takes place with the Liberals in power.

Google 'Kathleen Wynne' (Liberal Ontario premier) - and 'Dalton McGinty' (former Liberal Ontario premier). The Liberal party had literally pissed away an estimated $5 billion of taxpayer dollars in one scandal after another (e-Health, cancellation of Oakville's gas plants) for the past decade.

I won't even bother bringing up former Liberal Prime Minister Jean Cretien's illustrious history.
But this just backs up my comments. If this was true, how did this man get elected? Do you mean to me the other party that was in control didn't blow billions of dollars? Or make mistakes?

At the end of the day, one side wins and one side losses and life goes on and honestly nothing really changes. Here in the United States nothing about politics really affects the average person. We still pay taxes, we still have healthcare, we are still in Iraq and still in Afghanistan, and Benghazi would have happened even if the other side won the last election.
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I guess none of the business owners here are bothered by the upcoming increase in corporate tax?
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I guess none of the business owners here are bothered by the upcoming increase in corporate tax?
i expect tax increases in a lot of areas. the main reason to keep conservatives in power was lowered taxes.
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At least we have the HOTTEST country leader in the world :P

As for taxes and such before I call the Wambulance i'll see how they are going to introduce everything. At the end of the day Democracy spoke and Canadians all around voted for a change.

Cue Metaman calling me a broke idiot in 5-4-3-2...
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At least we have the HOTTEST country leader in the world :P

As for taxes and such before I call the Wambulance i'll see how they are going to introduce everything. At the end of the day Democracy spoke and Canadians all around voted for a change.

Cue Metaman calling me a broke idiot in 5-4-3-2...
he has said 3% increase in corp taxes
4% increase on people earning more than $200k
1.5% decrease on those earning under $80k
couples with combined income of $150k will lose any child benefit money
no more income splitting for familes only seniors
scrapping the increase of the tax free savings - stays at 5k instead of increasing to 10k.
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he has said 3% increase in corp taxes
4% increase on people earning more than $200k
1.5% decrease on those earning under $80k
couples with combined income of $150k will lose any child benefit money
no more income splitting for familes only seniors
scrapping the increase of the tax free savings - stays at 5k instead of increasing to 10k.
This might sound like a good idea to some people but all Western nations are having an issue right now with their "smart" people having children. People may not want to talk about this because it doesn't sound nice, but the reality is, smart/successful people are not having kids at the same rate as the less smart and less successful. Western nations are going to need to figure out a way to get these people to start having kids or in a few decades things are really going to be screwy.

I have 30 cousins. About half are Ivy League types, the other half are less educated types. The Ivy League types have 0-1 kids. The less educated types have 3-6 kids.

It's some real Freakonomics shit
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he has said 3% increase in corp taxes
4% increase on people earning more than $200k
1.5% decrease on those earning under $80k
couples with combined income of $150k will lose any child benefit money
no more income splitting for familes only seniors
scrapping the increase of the tax free savings - stays at 5k instead of increasing to 10k.
I know that is what he said, but we all know what politician say and what they actually do are 2 different things.

I am glad he's starting with the Marihuana issue, if he can make it happen our economy should get healthier with the revenues from POT, which might change is gameplan over all.
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Canada has a very attractive corporate tax rate in place and if marketed correctly could attract a lot of foreign companies. That would produce more jobs and new tax revenues. It would be a sad mistake to change that
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Here’s what the Liberals have pledged to do in office:

1. Boost Spending
The Liberals have said that they would accept a series of budget deficits to fund major infrastructure spending that would in turn boost the economy. This differs greatly from the Conservative and NDP platforms, both of which promised balanced budgets. Trudeau justifies this policy by arguing that the weakened Canadian economy, currently in a recession, needs stimulus now and that additional deficits, estimated at $10 billion annually, would have a marginal impact as economic outlooks improve. He promised to balance the budget by the 2019–20 cycle. He also said that this spending would contribute to greener infrastructure to help Canada become more environmentally friendly, especially after Harper’s extensive cuts to environmental programs and investments in oil sands.

2. Raise Taxes on the Wealthy
The Liberals also promised a tax hike for Canada’s top 1% to pay for a tax cut for the country’s middle class. It means that anyone who earns over $200,000 would see a tax hike of around 4%, while those earning between $44,701 and $89,401 would see a cut of around 1.5%, according to the Globe and Mail.

The tax hike on the rich stems partially from Trudeau’s criticism of the Conservatives’ taxation policy. Over the course of the elections, he frequently accused Harper’s government of favoring tax cuts for the rich and big corporations over regular Canadians. The Conservatives had promised a series of tax breaks and relatively mild spending in their fiscal platform in these elections, making their careful stewardship of the economy their primary promise. Critics say that the Liberals’ taxation and spending policies are foolish and will only hurt the economy.

3. Legalize Marijuana
Trudeau has vowed to legalize marijuana — a drug that he says has needlessly left many Canadians with criminal records and cost the government too much in law enforcement. The policy itself hasn’t been that controversial, but Trudeau has been targeted for his support of marijuana by his political opponents for years. During the campaign, both Harper and NDP leader Thomas Mulcair threw jabs at him for his stance and history with the drug. The Conservatives also attacked him for having once admitted to consuming weed a handful of times over the course of his life, including as a legislator. The criticism is no surprise — after all, Harper has been extremely critical of marijuana during his time in office, saying the drug was just as harmful as tobacco. It’s also unclear how quickly Trudeau would roll out this policy: he has admitted that he hasn’t sorted out the details, like how cannabis would be taxed and how those revenues would be distributed.

4. Take In More Refugees
Trudeau’s campaign rhetoric has emphasized his pluralistic, multicultural view of Canada and his deep desire to continue supporting immigrants and Canadians of all cultures. He called on Harper’s government to be more generous in the face of the migrant crisis throughout the campaign, saying that the Liberals would support the immediate processing of 25,000 Syrian refugees and a $100 million investment into helping Canada resettle and process refugees more quickly. In contrast, Harper only agreed to process 10,000 additional refugees over the course of four years. “We need to provide the support we can, and we need to be making this situation better in various ways that, quite frankly, we’re not doing at this time,” Trudeau said at one of his many campaign stops in September.

As a part of his bid to make Canada more culturally accepting, Trudeau also vowed to put an end to the Conservatives’ push for banning the niqab — a veil that partially covers the face worn by some Muslim women — at citizenship ceremonies, despite the fact that many Canadians were actually on board with the ban.

5. Reform the Voting System
Finally, Trudeau has vowed to reform the country’s current first-past-the-post voting system, which has been unpopular with liberal Canadians, whose votes are split between three main progressive parties, but a favorite of conservatives, who tend to vote in a bloc for the CPC. Back in June, Trudeau vowed that, if elected, he would create an all-party committee to pick a more effective national electoral system for the next elections, looking at options including ranked ballots and online voting.
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You DO understand that he plans to 'stimulate' the economy by creating deficits, right?

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But this just backs up my comments. If this was true, how did this man get elected? Do you mean to me the other party that was in control didn't blow billions of dollars? Or make mistakes?

At the end of the day, one side wins and one side losses and life goes on and honestly nothing really changes. Here in the United States nothing about politics really affects the average person. We still pay taxes, we still have healthcare, we are still in Iraq and still in Afghanistan, and Benghazi would have happened even if the other side won the last election.


Truth be told they ran an excellent social media campaign that was based on "hope and change" (where have we heard that one before?) It was a positive one, that was the antithesis of the Conservatives "doom and gloom" campaign.

I'm betting that the Liberals are shitting themselves that get got a majority gov't though. With all the promises they made to the public, I would imagine that they could have blamed not getting half of them implemented on not having enough votes to get it passed. Now anything that happens will fall squarely on the Justin's shoulders.
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Here?s what the Liberals have pledged to do in office:

2. Raise Taxes on the Wealthy
The Liberals also promised a tax hike for Canada?s top 1% to pay for a tax cut for the country?s middle class. It means that anyone who earns over $200,000 would see a tax hike of around 4%, while those earning between $44,701 and $89,401 would see a cut of around 1.5%, according to the Globe and Mail.
Yeah, this one cracked me up. So if you invest in 8 years of college/university with the hopes of someday making a six-figure salary - you get penalized with no tax break. And that 4% tax hike over $200k is based on gross earnings...but works out closer to 9% of take-home net pay.

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As a part of his bid to make Canada more culturally accepting, Trudeau also vowed to put an end to the Conservatives? push for banning the niqab ? a veil that partially covers the face worn by some Muslim women ? at citizenship ceremonies, despite the fact that many Canadians were actually on board with the ban.
I heard many non-muslim Canadians on the east coast attempted to cover their faces at the voting booths during the election in protest of Trudeau's promise to end the niqab ban.

They weren't permitted to vote with their faces covered.

Funny how that works.
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I heard many non-muslim Canadians on the east coast attempted to cover their faces at the voting booths during the election in protest of Trudeau's promise to end the niqab ban.

They weren't permitted to vote with their faces covered.

Funny how that works.
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Take off, eh?

Sorry Canucks but whenever I think of the Great White North all I see (and hear) are Bob and Doug McKenzies with a whole lot of South Park thrown in.

Hey buddy!
I'm not your buddy guy!
I'm not your guy buddy!!

Blame Canada......:D

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This might sound like a good idea to some people but all Western nations are having an issue right now with their "smart" people having children. People may not want to talk about this because it doesn't sound nice, but the reality is, smart/successful people are not having kids at the same rate as the less smart and less successful. Western nations are going to need to figure out a way to get these people to start having kids or in a few decades things are really going to be screwy.

I have 30 cousins. About half are Ivy League types, the other half are less educated types. The Ivy League types have 0-1 kids. The less educated types have 3-6 kids.

It's some real Freakonomics shit
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Really? So its ok by you if Oil Companies spill their shit into your back yard? Please sir, tell me why you think I'm an idiot and that you are not.
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Take off, eh?

Sorry Canucks but whenever I think of the Great White North all I see (and hear) are Bob and Doug McKenzies with a whole lot of South Park thrown in.

Hey buddy!
I'm not your buddy guy!
I'm not your guy buddy!!

Blame Canada......:D

(And Rush playing in the background, of course.)

You forgot Trailer Park Boys?

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Why has the economy been in a slump?

Maybe because its commodity based? And Canadians are all sociliast losers so there is no point in investing in the country?

Tough times ahead. Wait until oil drops further. You people are clueless.
Go Fuck Yourself

Calling everyone in Canada losers? Really? Some Canadian girl break your heart when you were 16 or something? Clearly you have an issue with people from Canada calling us ALL losers and clueless and more so far in this thread I got tired of reading.

And I could care less if the ecoonmy crashes, I'm paid in US dollars. Which btw has dove way more than the Canadian dollar in the last 10 years. Personally I'd like to see the Canadian dollar stay right where it is. It's good for those paid in US dollar and it's good for tourism, Americans love to visit Canada when they get 1.3 on their dollar.
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Calling everyone in Canada losers? Really? Some Canadian girl break your heart when you were 16 or something? Clearly you have an issue with people from Canada calling us ALL losers and clueless and more so far in this thread I got tired of reading.

And I could care less if the ecoonmy crashes, I'm paid in US dollars. Which btw has dove way more than the Canadian dollar in the last 10 years. Personally I'd like to see the Canadian dollar stay right where it is. It's good for those paid in US dollar and it's good for tourism, Americans love to visit Canada when they get 1.3 on their dollar.
I have an issue with Canada and you are praying the economy crashes and people suffer so you get a better exchange rate?

Thanks for proving my point clueless loser.
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Old 10-24-2015, 12:23 PM   #129
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I have an issue with Canada and you are praying the economy crashes and people suffer so you get a better exchange rate?

Thanks for proving my point clueless loser.
Ya I laughed at that as well. He pretty much said fuck Canada I'm paid in USD so I don't care lmao.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:51 AM   #130
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You DO understand that he plans to 'stimulate' the economy by creating deficits, right?
Yes, but it depends on who's benefiting.

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ugh- People around the world fight and die for this right, and you take it for granted.
How dramatic... I already addressed this; I no longer live in the country, I choose not to affect an election that will not affect me.
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