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Old 02-02-2016, 12:46 AM   #51
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RIP Candidate Trump.

He lost in the Bible Thumper state by a few thousand votes to the head Bible Thumper Ted Cruz.

It's all over for Trump now. RIP
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Sanders might get a little bounce, but everyone knows that NH, Vermont, and Iowa are his big three; they're filled with white socialists. He split the white vote with HC, when the non-white voters add their voices, he's done.
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Trump currently has about a 21 point lead over Cruz and others in New Hampshire. If Cruz or Rubio mount a major comeback and beat Trump in New Hampire he is probably done, but it is going to be pretty difficult for either of those two to mount that kind of comeback in the 8 days they have.
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This is a state that chose Huckabee and Santorum. Doesn't mean jack squat.
That in fact means everything. They once again chose the same type of candidate. Trump just barely edged by the establishment candidate. What this means is that this race just went conventional and in an conventional/real world a President Trump is not going to happen. Trump will win New Hampshire but all that matters is who drops out, where those votes go and how Rubio does. This was a bad night for the Trumpers.
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This was a bad night for the Trumpers.
And a GREAT night for the Tea Party and the religious extreme right wing!
You seem to be so happy!

Yeah! Let's get an insane religious nut like Rubio or Cruz and then watch Hillary continue to implode leading to one of those guys getting into the White House!

And cheer for the business guy who isn't a religious nut losing!

Hello Presidents Rubio and Cruz! Welcome to the new Theocracy Of The United States!
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And a GREAT night for the Tea Party and the religious extreme right wing!
You seem to be so happy!

Yeah! Let's get an insane religious nut like Rubio or Cruz and then watch Hillary continue to implode leading to one of those guys getting into the White House!

And cheer for the business guy who isn't a religious nut losing!

Hello Presidents Rubio and Cruz! Welcome to the new Theocracy Of The United States!
I am happy. Someone was going to win and I think it was the best outcome. I believe that Trump is a joke that has gone on way too long. He is a disgusting individual who hates and has exposed a sad looking side of the U.S. If I squint really hard I see what you see in him. I get the revolution part of it. I just don't buy it. I am sure on most things we aren't that far off. I just despise that dude. You believe in the other parts of who he is, the change, the anti-establishment. Fair enough. That is fine.

Cruz won't win and it is no shock that he won there. Rubio will have a tough path because he can come acrossed as a bit green. What I think is going to happen is that Hilary or maybe Bernie will win. The GOP ignored their own report after 2012 and didn't make inroads with the demos they needed to. I think that the Democrats are doing good for the country. My 401k has been on fire. I like embracing social diversity, I am glad someone is stepping up to the gun issue in the States and having lived abroad the national healthcare issue is a no brainer. Obamacare needs to be evolved or replaced with something more nationally regulated, not less.

If the Republicans win, I will be bummed. I don't think they are good for society. However I will save on taxes that pay for things I don't use, moving money will be easier and as a straight, white dude living in Europe that doesn't use U.S. healthcare and is out of range of the nuttiest people on the planet in regards to firearms the Social issues don't effect me much. I will vote for what is right though against my own personal best interests. But, yes, I am glad to see Trump get dinged because I am sick of trying to explain him to people that think him running is a show. I want a better country and my experience has show me that he wasn't going to help us.
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Are you kidding? The BLM folks in particular hate him and the other national black organizations have all endorsed Hillary as well.
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RIP Candidate Trump.

He lost in the Bible Thumper state by a few thousand votes to the head Bible Thumper Ted Cruz.

It's all over for Trump now. RIP
The funny part is that lots of people actually believe that

Meanwhile, FOX News and Megyn Kelly in particular are saying it's because Trump skipped their last debate which is even funnier.
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Stupid people vote for political establishment puppets. That's the reason a weak puppet like Cruz won.

Hard to beat decades of brainwashing.
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RIP Candidate Trump.

He lost in the Bible Thumper state by a few thousand votes to the head Bible Thumper Ted Cruz.

It's all over for Trump now. RIP
I don't think it's all over for Trump. I think he will do much better in New Hampshire.

I also think Drump just learned his first real lesson in politics.

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Trump currently has about a 21 point lead over Cruz and others in New Hampshire. If Cruz or Rubio mount a major comeback and beat Trump in New Hampire he is probably done, but it is going to be pretty difficult for either of those two to mount that kind of comeback in the 8 days they have.
Do you or anyone else happen to know the point spread going into Iowa last week? I am wondering if Trump has "star appeal" on paper but it does't add up to real votes when people really go to vote.
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I am happy. Someone was going to win and I think it was the best outcome. I believe that Trump is a joke that has gone on way too long. He is a disgusting individual who hates and has exposed a sad looking side of the U.S. If I squint really hard I see what you see in him. I get the revolution part of it. I just don't buy it. I am sure on most things we aren't that far off. I just despise that dude. You believe in the other parts of who he is, the change, the anti-establishment. Fair enough. That is fine.

Cruz won't win and it is no shock that he won there. Rubio will have a tough path because he can come acrossed as a bit green. What I think is going to happen is that Hilary or maybe Bernie will win. The GOP ignored their own report after 2012 and didn't make inroads with the demos they needed to. I think that the Democrats are doing good for the country. My 401k has been on fire. I like embracing social diversity, I am glad someone is stepping up to the gun issue in the States and having lived abroad the national healthcare issue is a no brainer. Obamacare needs to be evolved or replaced with something more nationally regulated, not less.

If the Republicans win, I will be bummed. I don't think they are good for society. However I will save on taxes that pay for things I don't use, moving money will be easier and as a straight, white dude living in Europe that doesn't use U.S. healthcare and is out of range of the nuttiest people on the planet in regards to firearms the Social issues don't effect me much. I will vote for what is right though against my own personal best interests. But, yes, I am glad to see Trump get dinged because I am sick of trying to explain him to people that think him running is a show. I want a better country and my experience has show me that he wasn't going to help us.
Tell us how you really feel Todd.
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Cruz has deepened his ties to the little-known data analytics firm, Cambridge Analytica, directing around 20% of overall spending during the reporting period to the data scientists embedded at Cruz??s campaign headquarters in Houston.

In December, the Guardian uncovered long-standing privacy and ethical issues around the way Cambridge Analytica??s parent company had acquired detailed psychological data on tens of millions of voters using data harvested from largely unwitting Facebook users.
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I don't think it's all over for Trump. I think he will do much better in New Hampshire.

I also think Drump just learned his first real lesson in politics.



Do you or anyone else happen to know the point spread going into Iowa last week? I am wondering if Trump has "star appeal" on paper but it does't add up to real votes when people really go to vote.
The last week the polls showed Cruz and Trump in a statistical tie. The day before the caucus there was one poll that showed Trump ahead by a few points, but for the most part they all had either Trump or Cruz ahead by a point or two so it was pretty close.

There was a high turnout, but it looks like Rubio was the one that benefited the most from that.
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Ted Cruz (27.7%), Donald Trump (24.3%)
That's huge - and even more so considering he was expecting such a huge win.
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He was born in NY. His father also in NY.
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That's huge - and even more so considering he was expecting such a huge win.
How is 3.4 points huge and 1.2 (Trump over Rubio) just barely slipping?
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How is 3.4 points huge and 1,2 (Trump over Rubio) just barely slipping?
other than the media spin, it is about delegates. Trump gathered 7 delegates, Cruz got 8. that's not huge. there are ~2500 republican delegates nationwide.
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You're saying it wrong...it's YYUUUUUGGGGEEEEEEEE


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I am happy. Someone was going to win and I think it was the best outcome. I believe that Trump is a joke that has gone on way too long. He is a disgusting individual who hates and has exposed a sad looking side of the U.S. If I squint really hard I see what you see in him. I get the revolution part of it. I just don't buy it. I am sure on most things we aren't that far off. I just despise that dude. You believe in the other parts of who he is, the change, the anti-establishment. Fair enough. That is fine.

Cruz won't win and it is no shock that he won there. Rubio will have a tough path because he can come acrossed as a bit green. What I think is going to happen is that Hilary or maybe Bernie will win. The GOP ignored their own report after 2012 and didn't make inroads with the demos they needed to. I think that the Democrats are doing good for the country. My 401k has been on fire. I like embracing social diversity, I am glad someone is stepping up to the gun issue in the States and having lived abroad the national healthcare issue is a no brainer. Obamacare needs to be evolved or replaced with something more nationally regulated, not less.

If the Republicans win, I will be bummed. I don't think they are good for society. However I will save on taxes that pay for things I don't use, moving money will be easier and as a straight, white dude living in Europe that doesn't use U.S. healthcare and is out of range of the nuttiest people on the planet in regards to firearms the Social issues don't effect me much. I will vote for what is right though against my own personal best interests. But, yes, I am glad to see Trump get dinged because I am sick of trying to explain him to people that think him running is a show. I want a better country and my experience has show me that he wasn't going to help us.
And what exactly is a better country to you? A socialist running things, religious nut jobs or career politicians?

Some of you are to funny. 99% certain that you have homo tendencies and will enjoy the impeding getting fucked of the white man. Enjoy.
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Holy crap you're a loser.

You're desperately posting this in multiple threads like a small depressed woman craving for attention.
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You're desperately posting this in multiple threads like a small depressed woman craving for attention.
Yes, 2 threads = multiple threads....it's ok though, my card still works...

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C'mon (American) people! Donald Trump has always been a joke living off his daddy's money and making 'deals' that went bankrupt, etc. Does anyone SERIOUSLY think the idiot who goes, 'You're fired!' could become PRESIDENT? This is just a spoiled, egotistic Baby Boomer billionaire who thinks he can own/play with anything, including the Presidency. Spank this little child in his fat ass and send him on his way already.

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He was born in NY. His father also in NY.
I meant to say NY.

I was born and raised in NJ. Not much of a difference really.
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How is 3.4 points huge and 1.2 (Trump over Rubio) just barely slipping?
Considering on the Democratic side the win is being decided by tenths of a point... 3.4 points is rather large.
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As I said you guys are day dreaming.. Republicans split 75% of their votes across 3 establishment candidates. It will be Rubio or Cruz out of those 3 and once it's down to that 1 guy Trump is finished.

Trump only looks like he stands a chance now because the establishment voters are splitting their vote across 3 candidates making Trump's support look like more than it is.

He's not going to win..Yesterday was your reality check. Even if he wins the next go round he still will not beat the establishment vote.

Right now it's a 4 way race.. when it's down to 2.. He will drop out because he will still have only 25-30%.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:37 PM   #89
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And what exactly is a better country to you? A socialist running things, religious nut jobs or career politicians?

Some of you are to funny. 99% certain that you have homo tendencies and will enjoy the impeding getting fucked of the white man. Enjoy.
No Trump as President. I thought that was clear.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:47 PM   #90
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No Trump as President. I thought that was clear.
Trumps alpha male status threatens you. You have hidden homo erotic feelings inside yourself and he scares you because fact is you aren't a real man. You tremble like a little girl when you hear his voice. But now you are secretly obsessed with him. Turned on. In fact I'm sure you're in love with him. You spend all your day discussing only him to your friends and on GFY. It's like abused wife syndrome.

Secretly you are turned on the fact he reminds you of deep seeded childhood issues where you were taught to be the lesser man you are. Let it out, we don't want to see you doing anything to yourself you would regret.

Say it with me you little dress wearing homo. CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:04 PM   #91
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Trump is a loser.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:08 PM   #92
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Trumps alpha male status threatens you. You have hidden homo erotic feelings inside yourself and he scares you because fact is you aren't a real man. You tremble like a little girl when you hear his voice. But now you are secretly obsessed with him. Turned on. In fact I'm sure you're in love with him. You spend all your day discussing only him to your friends and on GFY. It's like abused wife syndrome.

Secretly you are turned on the fact he reminds you of deep seeded childhood issues where you were taught to be the lesser man you are. Let it out, we don't want to see you doing anything to yourself you would regret.

Say it with me you little dress wearing homo. CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP
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Trump is tacky.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:25 PM   #93
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the donald may be out of his depth with these sharks and vipers.

Ted Cruz erased Trump's Iowa lead by spending millions on voter targeting | US news | The Guardian

The federally mandated release of expenditure filings on Sunday shows a crescendo of spending as well-funded campaigns and their allied Super Pacs bolster their digital firepower by pouring record amounts of cash into the so-called ??micro-targeting? of voters across social media with increasingly personal ads.

Cruz has deepened his ties to the little-known data analytics firm, Cambridge Analytica, directing around 20% of overall spending during the reporting period to the data scientists embedded at Cruz??s campaign headquarters in Houston.

In December, the Guardian uncovered long-standing privacy and ethical issues around the way Cambridge Analytica??s parent company had acquired detailed psychological data on tens of millions of voters using data harvested from largely unwitting Facebook users.
Very interesting

Yes this is who you're cheering for. No matter if Donald makes it or not there's something groundbreaking that he already achieved.

His presence and media bait antics managed to expose the utterly self-destructive absurdity of today.

All these crooked career politicians are 'good' as long as the media say so and as long as they are politically correct. It doesn't matter if they lie, steal, if there were people killed or impoverished because of their horrible decisions.

All of this is fine and perfectly accepted.

Somebody who straight out lied about everything and put its country and countrymen in danger, that all while being busy cashing insane checks from Wall Street (Clinton) or even one of the worst war criminals of all time (Cheney) are portrayed as 'respectable' politicians.

Yet the guy who has nothing to do with any of the above, the only one that showed true leadership during his career (as opposed to the career politicians), one with a high chance of not being in anyone's pocket is grilled by the media, labeled as 'dangerous', crucified by the debating voters (see this thread for reference) day in and day out because of the fact that he 'said' something.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:33 PM   #94
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As I said you guys are day dreaming.. Republicans split 75% of their votes across 3 establishment candidates. It will be Rubio or Cruz out of those 3 and once it's down to that 1 guy Trump is finished.

Trump only looks like he stands a chance now because the establishment voters are splitting their vote across 3 candidates making Trump's support look like more than it is.

He's not going to win..Yesterday was your reality check. Even if he wins the next go round he still will not beat the establishment vote.

Right now it's a 4 way race.. when it's down to 2.. He will drop out because he will still have only 25-30%.
you sure read a lot out of a state that votes for christian nutters.
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you leftists are doing a shit job of pointing it out, so i will help you.

the donald, has a weakness in his right flank. & that is, frankly, the conservatives think he is a trojan horse liberal.

so an intelligent person is not suprised that Iowans, many of whom can't pronounce the name of their own state proper...(they say IIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAA instead of Iowa) had reservations for the Donald.

It is too early to write off the most popular candidate, consistent since july, after the results of a backwater state, addicted to jesus, where some counties still ban dancing. too early to say that 75% of voters are going establishment. nobody knows where the votes of dropped out candidates are going. Making assumptions, when you are a leftist, about republicans is simply comical, like me saying i understand the struggle of the black man.

maybe i'll bump some of you dumbass comments 3 weeks from now, just to point out how dumb you are.
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Someone explain to me how "great businessman" equals "great social servant"?

The two are diametrically opposed. Government in a capitalist society ideally provides public social services and other societal benefits for the good of all, but business in a capitalist society is concerned mainly with the private benefits of profit. In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams. In some cases not, like the military industrial complex getting paid for $400 dollar hammers. Businesses can also be philanthropic, but only if the ownership is predisposed to it. So there can be a happy meeting of the minds.

People love Trump "speaking his mind" but he sounds seriously like a spoiled teenager with a serious case of affluenza. "Make Mexico pay for the wall", "Don't let any Muslims into the US", making fun of disabled people with stupid pantomimes. How can anyone who acts like a child and speaks as a child be taken for anything more than a child?

Trump avoided the service like all the other rich kids of his era. Now he is a friend to vets because he throws one fundraiser? C'mon.

Trump has made his business about Trump. I bet if he was elected he would have "Trump" replace "America" as a brand if he could.
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Someone explain to me how "great businessman" equals "great social servant"?

The two are diametrically opposed. Government in a capitalist society ideally provides public social services and other societal benefits for the good of all, but business in a capitalist society is concerned mainly with the private benefits of profit. In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams. In some cases not, like the military industrial complex getting paid for $400 dollar hammers. Businesses can also be philanthropic, but only if the ownership is predisposed to it. So there can be a happy meeting of the minds.

People love Trump "speaking his mind" but he sounds seriously like a spoiled teenager with a serious case of affluenza. "Make Mexico pay for the wall", "Don't let any Muslims into the US", making fun of disabled people with stupid pantomimes. How can anyone who acts like a child and speaks as a child be taken for anything more than a child?

Trump avoided the service like all the other rich kids of his era. Now he is a friend to vets because he throws one fundraiser? C'mon.

Trump has made his business about Trump. I bet if he was elected he would have "Trump" replace "America" as a brand if he could.
That is a damn good question.

Just think - our future president might have said "Mexicans are rapists".
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Old 02-02-2016, 04:46 PM   #98
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Someone explain to me how "great businessman" equals "great social servant"?

The two are diametrically opposed. Government in a capitalist society ideally provides public social services and other societal benefits for the good of all, but business in a capitalist society is concerned mainly with the private benefits of profit. In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams. In some cases not, like the military industrial complex getting paid for $400 dollar hammers. Businesses can also be philanthropic, but only if the ownership is predisposed to it. So there can be a happy meeting of the minds.

People love Trump "speaking his mind" but he sounds seriously like a spoiled teenager with a serious case of affluenza. "Make Mexico pay for the wall", "Don't let any Muslims into the US", making fun of disabled people with stupid pantomimes. How can anyone who acts like a child and speaks as a child be taken for anything more than a child?

Trump avoided the service like all the other rich kids of his era. Now he is a friend to vets because he throws one fundraiser? C'mon.

Trump has made his business about Trump. I bet if he was elected he would have "Trump" replace "America" as a brand if he could.
A friend of mine has a theory that Trump never intended to make it this far. His theory is that Trump planned to announce, make some speeches and have a little fun getting some free publicity then put out a book and drop out of the race. When he suddenly shot to the top of the polls he was stuck. If he drops out it looks like he was making a mockery of the system and it could actually hurt him and his book sales. So he started going crazy, doing and saying things that would typically cause a politician to drop in the polls, but for some reason it didn't work. Now he is stuck in a situation where he can't drop out until he loses or is losing, but he can't make it look like he wants to lose. It's an interesting theory.
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In most cases, gov can offer services at a discount, like Planned Parenthood for example providing free std exams.
Planned Parenthood is a private organization.

As for a businessman being President...the Presidency is ONE branch of three equal branches.
It is the EXECUTIVE branch.

So yeah...an actual person with real life executive experience would be a great fit.

We've all seen what lifetime bureaucrats have done for us (wars, spying, 20 trillion in debt, etc.).
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:37 PM   #100
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Like it or not... This is a reality.

The race is in all states. While some states are stronger than others for each candidate, it is the accumulating delegates you have at the end.
If there are still 5 in the race by the end of march... trump will win this thing. Not by a large margin. Unless nobody has a clear majority, in which case it will be the biggest fight you may witness in your political life when they delegates will fight it out on the convention floor.

That can only serve to disenfranchise many voters if it comes to that. No mater who they pick, it will seem like it is non-legit and unlikely to win the general election.

Much how Hillary lost the dem run last time and probably will again.
Cruz and Rubio cant carry enough states as long as Bush takes FL, TX and Kashish takes Ohio, Penn or IN and Christie takes NJ.
Some states the winner takes all the delegates and some are proportionate to the votes.

It's the total delegate count dummies. And unless there is a clear leader after Super Tuesday, it's going to be a very bloody fight to the end at the floor of the convention.
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