Trump would run as independant

[mineistaken]

If they stole his nomination.
I, and others, have been saying this for a while, but here is a clear hint from Mr. Trump himself:

Donald J. Trump
Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

Bernie Sanders has been treated terribly by the Democrats?both with delegates & otherwise. He should show them, and run as an Independent!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...93336000532480

[Joshua G]

no he wont. bloomberg was pondering an indy run...media said he had until march to set up people in 50 states to get him on all the ballots. Far too late for trump to go indy now.

its 1st ballot or bust...but no worries he will lock it up on the first try...he can buy uncommitted dels if it comes to that. mar-a-lago is a pretty place i hear.

[Rochard]

He seems to loose no matter what.

Trump might be the front runner for the Republican party, but not 100% of the Republican party is behind him. This might be the case for either side in any election; Some people will just say "I do not accept my party's candidate" and either vote the other way or just not vote. Usually this is not enough people to influence an election, but in the case of Trump this will most likely have a huge influence on the election. Republicans will either stay home and not vote, or (gasp!) vote Democratic or otherwise. Trump will loose.

If he runs as an Independent, not enough of the Republican party will leave the Republican party and vote for him. Again, Trump looses.

ALL of the polls - including Fox News - has Trump as loosing by a large margin. This is a very odd election - Current polls show Trump loosing to Clinton or Sanders, and also shows Cruz as loosing to Clinton or Sanders. Something big would have to change to change those numbers.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Rochard

He seems to loose no matter what.

Actually he seems to be winning no matter what.

One thing for sure, when he wins the Republican party will never be the same.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Actually he seems to be winning no matter what.

One thing for sure, when he wins the Republican party will never be the same.

I understand November is a long way out, but he seems to be loosing the election:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

That's a HUGE gap.

[Rochard]

Just to give an example of how big of gap Trump is currently facing.....

At this same time during Obma vs Romney, there was a 1.8% gap with Obama on top.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I understand November is a long way out, but he seems to be loosing the election:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

That's a HUGE gap.

I have no idea what Trump vs Hillary will turn into but Trump seems set to be the Rep favorite and that will tear the party apart. Finally.


.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Good; Hillary will win with 42% of the popular vote and manipulate the Electoral College or the election will be at the mercy of the House of Representatives where Mr. No-politician will be like a fish out of water ...

Two presidential elections have been decided in the House of Representatives and four others, including the elections of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and John F. Kennedy in 1960, have come within 30,000 votes of requiring a decision by the House.

Deadlock: What Happens If Nobody Wins

President Clinton II OMG. TY Mr Trump

[dyna mo]

Typical antiTrumpsters blathering on about how bad Trump's been lo0sing since June when he first threw his hat in the ring.

Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

[kane]

Tonight Trump will all but finish off wining the republican nomination. He will likely sweep the five states voting today and four of the five are winner take all. By the time the night ends Trump will have around 1,000 delegates. It will officially mathematically eliminate Cruz. I read a story yesterday that said if the remaining primaries play out the way the polls currently show them Trump will come up about 50 delegates shy of winning the nomination.

The republicans are in a can't win situation here. If Trump gets the nomination either by winning enough delegates or at the open convention a good portion of the party hates him and may not support him. If he doesn't get the nomination his supporters (even if he doesn't run as an independent) will be pissed off and will likely not support Cruz. If they pick someone other than Cruz or Trump they face the possibility have having most of the party revolt.

It's likely going to be a shit show no matter what happens.

[poncabare]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Typical antiTrumpsters blathering on about how bad Trump's been lo0sing since June when he first threw his hat in the ring.

Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

They can't even spell lose

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by kane

Tonight Trump will all but finish off wining the republican nomination. He will likely sweep the five states voting today and four of the five are winner take all. By the time the night ends Trump will have around 1,000 delegates. It will officially mathematically eliminate Cruz. I read a story yesterday that said if the remaining primaries play out the way the polls currently show them Trump will come up about 50 delegates shy of winning the nomination.

The republicans are in a can't win situation here. If Trump gets the nomination either by winning enough delegates or at the open convention a good portion of the party hates him and may not support him. If he doesn't get the nomination his supporters (even if he doesn't run as an independent) will be pissed off and will likely not support Cruz. If they pick someone other than Cruz or Trump they face the possibility have having most of the party revolt.

It's likely going to be a shit show no matter what happens.

Adding to this, reibus has already started working on ensuring the GOP supports whoever wins the nom. Trump has also made a strategic shift to be more presidential and also will be meeting directly and face to face with delegates as well as having already been invited to give the keynote speech at a big delegate event.

[Phoenix]

I just wonder who trump will pick as a vp. He needs a political insider with pull and who can attract women. If he picked a women vp i think Hilary would literally throw a hissy fit...lol

[dyna mo]

Breaking: Trump loosed all 5 states voting today!

Congrats Trump on your loose

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html?referer

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by kane

Tonight Trump will all but finish off wining the republican nomination. He will likely sweep the five states voting today and four of the five are winner take all. By the time the night ends Trump will have around 1,000 delegates. It will officially mathematically eliminate Cruz. I read a story yesterday that said if the remaining primaries play out the way the polls currently show them Trump will come up about 50 delegates shy of winning the nomination.

A State-By-State Roadmap For The Rest Of The Republican Primary | FiveThirtyEight here is the preview, I think your view is a bit more optimistic than these predictions though

[Barry-xlovecam]

Don't forget 1992 -- Bill's big day

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...election,_1992

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

A State-By-State Roadmap For The Rest Of The Republican Primary | FiveThirtyEight here is the preview, I think your view is a bit more optimistic than these predictions though

It's on here in orange county socal, big fight at the local Trump rally today too. Liberal hecklers

[mineistaken]

Nice sweep by the great patriot Trump today

[mineistaken]

None of the 5 states has Mr. Trump under 60% as of current results.
Talk about 30% republican voters' ceiling

[directfiesta]

republicans voted for Trump ... He should be the nominee

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I understand November is a long way out, but he seems to be loosing the election:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

That's a HUGE gap.

ugh you continue to soil yourself citing polls. when you know they are meaningless hypotheticals that do not price in future events, like hilary getting butt banged by the FBI.

something you ignore, is this link about TURNOUT...the thing trump has, hilary does not.

what difference will it make if hilary is up 7 in a hypothetical poll, but the people who were polled dont show up. she is low energy, like jeb.

this link also shows the dems themselves are not showing up for the dem race. again, low energy.

im sure your gonna blindly bring up polls 5 more times this year, & 5 more times i will call you dumb & school you about turnout.

[mineistaken]

LOL, only at libby huffy shit post article authors sign themselves as: Black. Muslim. Sociologist.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I just wonder who trump will pick as a vp. He needs a political insider with pull and who can attract women. If he picked a women vp i think Hilary would literally throw a hissy fit...lol

I'm throwing in for Condi!

top25Women

Lot of nonwhites in the Top 10 to choose from. Take a look at Nikki Haley, he is already a fan.

[mineistaken]

#TRUMPTRAIN

[kane]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

A State-By-State Roadmap For The Rest Of The Republican Primary | FiveThirtyEight here is the preview, I think your view is a bit more optimistic than these predictions though

Looks like they project him getting 1208 so even closer than the piece I read.

I was just listening to Trump's victory speech and he said flat out he is the nominee and the other two should drop out. He also said a group of republican insiders recently met with him and will be coming out shortly as supporting him.

It looks like the party is starting to realize he is the only real option they have.

[mineistaken]

How 54 unbound delegates from Pennsylvania are going to vote:

1 Vogler, Christopher M 37.42% Uncommitted
1 Hackett, David 31.75 District Winner
1 Kaufer, Seth W 30.83 Uncommitted
2 Havey, Elizabeth 29.30 District Winner
2 Tucker, Calvin R 29.16 Uncommitted
2 Cohen, Aaron J 25.82 Uncommitted
3 English, Philip S 17.66 Uncommitted
3 Ryan, Carol Lynne 11.27 Trump
3 Yates, Robert J. 11.14 District Winner
4 Sacco, Joseph A 13.38 Trump
4 Jansen, Matthew R 11.40 Trump
4 Scaringi, Marc Anthony 10.90 Trump
5 Klein, James Feuer 16.72 Trump
5 Mcclure, C Arnold 13.72 Trump
5 Khare, Ash 12.84 District Winner
6 Costello, Ryan A 25.32 District Winner
6 Lightcap, Vicki 14.27 District Winner
6 Buckwalter, Wayne 14.08 Trump
7 Puppio, Michael V 25.86 District Winner
7 Willert, Robert J. 24.10 Unknown
7 Miller, Joan M 23.42 District Winner
8 Worthington, Samuel James Jr 18.74 District Winner
8 Casper, Barry Robert 17.07 District Winner
8 Quinn, Marguerite C 14.50 Unknown
9 Shuster, William F 19.34 District Winner
9 Ward, Judith F 16.31 District Winner
9 Taylor, Debra D 13.45 Trump
10 Sides, Carol D 13.99 Unknown
10 Scavello, Mario Michael 10.04 District Winner
10 Pickett, Tina 9.44 District Winner
11 Morelli, Richard 16.28 Trump
11 Mcelwee, David J 12.68 Trump
11 Shecktor, Andrew 9.25 Trump
12 Steigerwalt, George F 10.80 Cruz
12 Vasilko, James J 9.69 Trump
12 Morrill, Monica 9.25 Trump
13 Ellis, Thomas Jay 17.29 District Winner
13 Cox, Gilbert W Jr 15.86 Unknown
13 Casper, Lauren Elizabeth 14.51 District Winner
14 Meloy, Mary A 35.65 Uncommitted
14 Devanney, Michael 34.78 Uncommitted
14 Linton, Cameron S 29.57 Kasich
16 Brubaker, Douglas W 22.86 Cruz
16 Denlinger, Gordon Ray 22.74 Uncommitted
16 Dumeyer, David M 17.43 District Winner
17 Villano, Teresa Lynette 18.50 Trump
17 Bonkoski, Carolyn L 17.79 Trump
17 Snover, Gloria Lee 15.10 District Winner
18 Means, Sue Ann 13.39 Cruz
18 Deplato, Justin Phd 13.13 Trump
18 Petrarca, John Thomas 12.94 District Winner

Some extra votes for Mr. Trump

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by kane

Looks like they project him getting 1208 so even closer than the piece I read.

And Trump even outpaced that prediction...

Plus unpledged delegates from my previous post who were not counted in that number

Plus, of course, some other un pledged delegates from other states.

#TrumpTrain.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

Tonight Trump will all but finish off wining the republican nomination. He will likely sweep the five states voting today and four of the five are winner take all. By the time the night ends Trump will have around 1,000 delegates. It will officially mathematically eliminate Cruz. I read a story yesterday that said if the remaining primaries play out the way the polls currently show them Trump will come up about 50 delegates shy of winning the nomination.

The republicans are in a can't win situation here. If Trump gets the nomination either by winning enough delegates or at the open convention a good portion of the party hates him and may not support him. If he doesn't get the nomination his supporters (even if he doesn't run as an independent) will be pissed off and will likely not support Cruz. If they pick someone other than Cruz or Trump they face the possibility have having most of the party revolt.

It's likely going to be a shit show no matter what happens.

I agree. And Trump did win big tonight.

No matter how this plays out the Republican party will loose. If Trump wins the nomination, they loose. If by chance Cruz wins the nomination, they loose. The only chance of the Republican party winning would be if there is a contested convention, and anyone other than Cruz ends up being their nomination.

The Republican party ignored the basics again. They needed to in the Hispanic vote, and the female vote, and once again, they not only ignored these to demographics AND pissed them off in the process.

The demographics of the country has changed, with a larger percentage of Americans being Hispanic. California, one of the most important states for politics, is now Hispanic. There is just no way around this.

[Black All Through]

That is the risk, if Trump is robbed of his nomination, he could run as independent and take with him anything between 5-15% of the votes IMO, most of them republicans, it would be a landslide for Hillary.

Regarding Bernie going independent, he respects his party, has always said so, so I really doubt he'd make that move.