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Old 11-07-2018, 03:47 AM   #101
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nope - they can outsource the production to china or india. and all of them will work legal there. but none of them will even buy a hot dog in US.
Yes globalisation is a problem. Can they globalise the jobs illegals do? https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.f196a642c36f


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Mexico is currently our 3rd largest goods trading partner with $557.6 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2017. Goods exports totaled $243.3 billion.

Where do you think they got this money from ?
Printed it?
The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $71.0 billion in 2017.

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1. US have actually one of the lowest unemployment rates in the world. even european economies what doing 100 times better than the US facing higher unemployment rates.
what is it that they are doing better?
Is that the government figures or the real ones?

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2. Higher wages makes products more expensive. It does not produce prosperity if you give people more money when prices are increasing.
apart of that the prices will not only become higher for the "illegals" they will become also higher for the "legals".
What you are announcing will take prosperity away from people and nothing else.
So why are so many people in Europe turning against illegal migration?

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i'm sorry - i don't see a single country in the west with high immigration rates that has a growth problem because of it. the opposite is the case. countries with high immigration rates have a higher and faster growth rate.
So why are so many people in Europe turning against illegal migration?

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UK, for example, can no longer guarantee care for the elderly or pay for it WITHOUT getting the strength from low-wage countries. soon it will be time for the englishmen to start changing the shitty diapers of their elderly themselves - a dream job - i'm sure that pretty much every british person will beg to do this job.
So allow a certain number of legal migrants to do those jobs. Just the workers not their families.
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:48 AM   #102
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MArkham, this is America, we have an obligation to try and help people asking us for help. These people are coming here and asking for help. Plenty of US Americans have no problem helping them out of their misery.

not everything is about how much immigrants can contribute to the economy.
Fine with legal migrants coming in, I'm not fine with illegal migrants. Do you know the difference?
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:15 AM   #103
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The economy of one company doesn't determine the economy of a country.

Are you adding the services the real unemployed need to the services of illegal migrants?

You blame corporations for buying politicians and think they have nothing to do with the present stand on illegal migration.
" series of corporations with positive tax rates" ?? so you are the only one talking about one company

i can't believe you're still attempting to argue about the cost of illegal migrants.. if they pay more than they use they will be paying for 'the real unemployed'..

i think what now
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:37 AM   #104
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Fine with legal migrants coming in, I'm not fine with illegal migrants. Do you know the difference?
I've stated several times here I don't give 1 single fuck about immigration of any kind.

Moreover, you took the bait, not me. This caravan bullshit is a red herring.

Run for your life, women and children needing help are coming.
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