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Old 11-06-2019, 05:17 PM   #1
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Flirt4Free Acquires Camster.com, Naked.com and CamDolls.com

Flirt4Free Acquires Camster.com, Naked.com and CamDolls.com



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Old 11-06-2019, 05:19 PM   #2
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Massive move indeed . . .
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Old 11-06-2019, 06:08 PM   #3
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Old 11-06-2019, 06:29 PM   #4
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VS.Com assholes...
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:14 PM   #5
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That's some BIG news. I love Flirt4free
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:32 PM   #6
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VS.Com assholes...
VS Media sold VS.com several years ago, but they're still assholes. Anyone doing business with Naked.com, Camster and CamDolls should move their traffic elsewhere as those sites will likely have the same shitty affiliate TOS as Flirt4Free. Read more about Flirt4Free's "Inactive Referred Customer" and "Dormant Affiliate Rate".
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:36 PM   #7
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Eh might be good news.. feels like naked/camster affiliate program was abandoned years ago.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:02 PM   #8
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:13 AM   #9
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:21 AM   #10
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Flirt4Free Acquires Camster.com, Naked.com and CamDolls.com



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Thanks for the shout out! It's a big project, we're all itching to get to the November 19th launch.


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That's some BIG news. I love Flirt4free
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VS Media sold VS.com several years ago, but they're still assholes. Anyone doing business with Naked.com, Camster and CamDolls should move their traffic elsewhere as those sites will likely have the same shitty affiliate TOS as Flirt4Free. Read more about Flirt4Free's "Inactive Referred Customer" and "Dormant Affiliate Rate".
If a customer doesn't spend money for a year, then another affiliate spends marketing dollars to re-engage and re-refer that customer, then that affiliate gets credit. If you feel like that's not fair, then you don't have to promote our program. This rule doesn't stop any of our other affiliates from making money.


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Send me details. In the 24 years that we've been in business, we've always paid our bills.
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:50 AM   #11
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Thanks for the shout out! It's a big project, we're all itching to get to the November 19th launch.

If a customer doesn't spend money for a year, then another affiliate spends marketing dollars to re-engage and re-refer that customer, then that affiliate gets credit. If you feel like that's not fair, then you don't have to promote our program. This rule doesn't stop any of our other affiliates from making money.
https://affiliates.flirt4free.com/rev.php

You shouldn't claim lifetime revshare "Set yourself up to earn high profits for years to come! Our Revenue Share option will pay commissions throughout the lifetime of your referred users."

Still pushing you guys.. but had a whale take a break and afraid I lost him forever
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Old 11-07-2019, 12:15 PM   #12
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If a customer doesn't spend money for a year, then another affiliate spends marketing dollars to re-engage and re-refer that customer, then that affiliate gets credit. If you feel like that's not fair, then you don't have to promote our program. This rule doesn't stop any of our other affiliates from making money.
So the original affiliate that spent time, money and effort to get the LIFETIME revshare commissions gets fucked out of the LIFETIME revshare commissions that they rightfully earned? Who's the one going after the inactive customers? Do you want to deny that Flirt4Free emails these inactive customers, so it can keep all the revenue for itself?

It's not fair, I'm not promoting F4F and I'm going to ensure other webmasters know the shitty policy of your program. Fuck you greedy bastards.
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VS Media sold VS.com several years ago, but they're still assholes. Anyone doing business with Naked.com, Camster and CamDolls should move their traffic elsewhere as those sites will likely have the same shitty affiliate TOS as Flirt4Free. Read more about Flirt4Free's "Inactive Referred Customer" and "Dormant Affiliate Rate".
Honestly, I was aware of the dormant affiliate rate policy but not about the inactive referred customer one, thanks for bringing it up.

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Old 11-08-2019, 04:22 AM   #14
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So the original affiliate that spent time, money and effort to get the LIFETIME revshare commissions gets fucked out of the LIFETIME revshare commissions that they rightfully earned? Who's the one going after the inactive customers? Do you want to deny that Flirt4Free emails these inactive customers, so it can keep all the revenue for itself?

It's not fair, I'm not promoting F4F and I'm going to ensure other webmasters know the shitty policy of your program. Fuck you greedy bastards.
Thanks to bring up those important info
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Honestly, I was aware of the dormant affiliate rate policy but not about the inactive referred customer one, thanks for bringing it up.

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What about the first affiliate who spent marketing dollars based on expected lifetime value of that member?
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What about the first affiliate who spent marketing dollars based on expected lifetime value of that member?
Ignored like always? Usually with a cookie cutter response too like how they don't INTEND to let this happen.

Hah, wishful thinking on my part.
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If a customer doesn't spend money for a year, then another affiliate spends marketing dollars to re-engage and re-refer that customer, then that affiliate gets credit. If you feel like that's not fair, then you don't have to promote our program. This rule doesn't stop any of our other affiliates from making money.




Send me details. In the 24 years that we've been in business, we've always paid our bills.

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If a customer doesn't spend money for a year, then another affiliate spends marketing dollars to re-engage and re-refer that customer, then that affiliate gets credit.
While your statement isn't an outright lie, it's extremely deceptive and misleading. The 150 days clause in the Flirt4Free affiliate TOS is only about 5 months, less than half of the year that you suggest above.

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when VS first stated they prided themselves on being "stand up guys" and if a customer used a credit card under your marketing partner number it was tied to your MP account for life. I remember Chuck being very vocal about this.
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when VS first stated they prided themselves on being "stand up guys" and if a customer used a credit card under your marketing partner number it was tied to your MP account for life. I remember Chuck being very vocal about this.
Rather than innovating to deal with increased competition, VS Media / Flirt4Free / F4F apparently made the short sighted decision to shaft their affiliates instead. Camster, Naked and CamDolls affiliates acquired by Flirt4Free should jump ship and do business with people who have integrity.
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Naked.com has been sold about 5 times now, by my count.
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