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Paolo · 05-22-2003, 04:09 PM

We were just told that websitebilling is out ouf business.
http://www.websitebilling.co.uk/

If any affiliates out there have links please replace them with the new triplexcash links right ways.

CCbill referers are still ok.

Machete_ · 05-22-2003, 04:11 PM

so all the stories they told us was really lies
- glad I only use CCbill

EscortBiz · 05-22-2003, 04:11 PM

I dint use them but this is sad news for the industry.

[Labret] · 05-22-2003, 04:12 PM

that sucks. never good to see a processor go under.

modF · 05-22-2003, 04:14 PM

Doot.

Now there is some shit.

greentea · 05-22-2003, 04:14 PM

Dear Valued Clients:

We regret to inform you that WebsiteBilling.com Ltd (WebsiteBilling.co.uk), despite our very best efforts, will have no choice but to cease operations on Friday, May 23, 2003. We were recently informed by our European Acquiring Bank (one of the largest banks in Europe and one of the last that was willing to work with Aggregators and "IPSP's") that the Aggregators and IPSP's they work with are being closed due to the pressure and administrative requirements passed down by Visa/MC. By losing this merchant relationship, we have no practical way to maintain our current client database.

In the past few months, we have unfortunately dealt with arbitrary fines imposed by card associations, foreign banks and agents taking weeks worth of deposits, and general harassment as the associations have taken very clear aim at the IPSP business model. (see Paycom's current lawsuit as well as WebsiteBilling.com, Inc's. lawsuit from 2001). We have operated with the best of intentions in trying to fighting through these issues and regaining strength, but there is unfortunately nowhere else to turn when our current and primary bank chose to exit the business.

We are very proud of the service that we have offered and are grateful to have had the opportunity to work with many terrific individuals. We are very hopeful that the lawsuit mentioned above will bring meaningful change in the way that card associations deal with merchants in our space, but it appears that in the meantime, they have claimed another casualty.

We wish you the very best of luck and may be in touch if further information becomes available.

Sincerely,

Evin Daly
Managing Director
WebsiteBilling.com Ltd.
London

Ludedude · 05-22-2003, 04:15 PM

I see their banner is still flying high on top of the board though.

greentea · 05-22-2003, 04:16 PM

I feel bad for all the affiliates that are owed out rageous amounts of money

Calvinguy · 05-22-2003, 04:16 PM

It seems that both Ibill and Websitebilling have problems with their european banks. How long will CCbill EU last?

Jay_StandAhead · 05-22-2003, 04:16 PM

So they won't pay what they owe to people?

boneprone · 05-22-2003, 04:16 PM

They seem to be still paying me.

Thats pretty classy!

Machete_ · 05-22-2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
They seem to be still paying me.

Thats pretty classy!

did you get the full amount or 30% like I did?

Giorgio_Xo · 05-22-2003, 04:18 PM

Eeks. Through Rectal Rooter I'm owed around $250.

I feel sorry for those that are owed even more.

nevermind · 05-22-2003, 04:18 PM

Where's the link about their 2001 lawsuit?

I'd like to know what happened with that.

Apparently not successful I guess.

stocktrader23 · 05-22-2003, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Eeks. Through Rectal Rooter I'm owed around $250.

I feel sorry for those that are owed even more.

Be happy that's all you're owed.

Jon · 05-22-2003, 04:19 PM

Kerplunk!
Anotherone bites the dust.

But yeah, it does suck, I was always a fan of them. I'll bet the other processors are taking their employees out for a celebration of one less fish in the sea.

European Lee · 05-22-2003, 04:19 PM

Not to bash them or anything but...

If they had any business sense they would put a link to another processor on their site under or above that long release and make some additional $$$ long term through recurring sales

Regards,

Lee

Theo · 05-22-2003, 04:20 PM

shit!

Machete_ · 05-22-2003, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Not to bash them or anything but...

If they had any business sense they would put a link to another processor on their site under or above that long release and make some additional $$$ long term through recurring sales

Regards,

Lee

would you click that link - and make money to the people that just screwed you?

greentea · 05-22-2003, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paolo
We were just told that websitebilling is out ouf business.
http://www.websitebilling.co.uk/

If any affiliates out there have links please replace them with the new triplexcash links right ways.

CCbill referers are still ok.

I think you guys should the take the initiative and pay all CFF webmasters who are owed money from websitebilling out of your pocket.

That would really show some class, i don't have any problems with CFF, i just know there a lot of people burned through websitebilling.

woodman · 05-22-2003, 04:22 PM

this is like the first rumble of thunder before a really bad storm.

stocktrader23 · 05-22-2003, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea

I think you guys should the take the initiative and pay all CFF webmasters who are owed money from websitebilling out of your pocket.

That would really show some class, i don't have any problems with CFF, i just know there a lot of people burned through websitebilling.

CFF was burned worse than anyone being that they forfeited their WSB funds for their affiliates. Regardless of what WSB did CFF made the effort and got double fucked in return. Class act in my book.

GrimShawn · 05-22-2003, 04:24 PM

That's some crazy shit!

Jay_StandAhead · 05-22-2003, 04:25 PM

Can't access the stats anymore...

Guess I should kiss that 5 grand good bye

angelsofporn · 05-22-2003, 04:25 PM

those fucking shit eating pricks told me just a few weeks ago that i would get what they owed me no problem...3k...scumbags

greentea · 05-22-2003, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

CFF was burned worse than anyone being that they forfeited their WSB funds for their affiliates. Regardless of what WSB did CFF made the effort and got double fucked in return. Class act in my book.

If thats true then CFF is a real class act!

i no longer promote them, so i have not been in the mix to how they handled that.

stocktrader23 · 05-22-2003, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea

If thats true then CFF is a real class act!

i no longer promote them, so i have not been the mix to how they handled that.

Yea, they told WSB not to pay them and forward anything they were going to send to their affiliates. I think WSB shafted the affiliates anyway.

aflex · 05-22-2003, 04:28 PM

assed out of about 200 bux too.. sucks

seems like most of the bigger guys got paid..

been with CFF since january, using WSB, recieved 1 payment..

angelsofporn · 05-22-2003, 04:28 PM

and where did the money come from to pay for all the ad spots i see around on different websites? what the hell....if i come to florida can i grab some computers or office equipment to compensate..?

KRL · 05-22-2003, 04:29 PM

Put your lifevests on now guys. Seriously, I heard some more shit through the grapevine today about a processor that did not sound good at all.

Bumpy turbulent air ahead. Buckle up and get as many backup systems as possible in place and ready to go at a moment's notice.

The sky is getting darker not brighter.

rooster · 05-22-2003, 04:29 PM

i predicted this like a month ago

GTS Mark · 05-22-2003, 04:31 PM

That fucking sucks.

DH

Calvinguy · 05-22-2003, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
i predicted this like a month ago

You should have made some bets and you could easily have made some millions

harvey · 05-22-2003, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
i predicted this like a month ago

i need some lotto predictions

Sin_Vraal · 05-22-2003, 04:33 PM

I Host CFF, and I know for a fact that Kevin and Paolo havent been paid in the last 4 months, since they've been redirecting all profits to keeping the webmasters paid. I'm sure everyone is going to be taken care and all seen that after you switch over to the new system, payments WILL be sent along properly.

woodman · 05-22-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
i predicted this like a month ago

You mean because they were having trouble paying people, you took that and predicted they may go out of business?

fucking brilliant

Fletch XXX · 05-22-2003, 04:35 PM

lied to only a few days ago on the phone.

horrible people in this world.

nevermind · 05-22-2003, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Put your lifevests on now guys. Seriously, I heard some more shit through the grapevine today about a processor that did not sound good at all.

Which one?

XxXotic · 05-22-2003, 04:41 PM

so happy i was promised an answer 2 weeks ago and this is the answer i get.

nocostporn · 05-22-2003, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodman
this is like the first rumble of thunder before a really bad storm.

I agree,happen to them..can happen to anybody

SexySarah · 05-22-2003, 04:43 PM

cash only

Thrawn$ · 05-22-2003, 04:44 PM

I supose i will not recieve my 32$

tony286 · 05-22-2003, 04:45 PM

Your processor goes out of business, what happens (besides the obvious) Is your gateway still up? Do your members still have access ? Do you still have access to your stats and members email lists so you can inform them of what happened? What can you do to protect yourself if that happens?

Jay_StandAhead · 05-22-2003, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thrawn$
I supose i will not recieve my 32$

What a shame

Hooper · 05-22-2003, 04:48 PM

I dont think this is a sign of the industry.

WSB was a shitty company with shitty service from day one.

This is just survival of the fittest.

Backov · 05-22-2003, 04:49 PM

Expect others to follow. The shakeout is coming.

Hooper · 05-22-2003, 04:49 PM

they still seem to be happily accepting transactions however.

https://secure1.websitebilling.com/b...reignID=999999

Shoplifter · 05-22-2003, 04:50 PM

Just wait...Some other IPSP's that use the same bank are in trouble as well.

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-22-2003, 04:52 PM

Well well well, this keeps getting better.

I just spent a nice amount of cash, had my lawyer send them a letter. He mailed it yesturday, gues its gonna be a "return to sender" letter, lol.

Im confident Triple X will do their best in keeping their webmasters happy.

Jeffne · 05-22-2003, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calvinguy
It seems that both Ibill and Websitebilling have problems with their european banks. How long will CCbill EU last?

Cavinguy,

CCBill EU has been in full compliance with Visa & Mastercard from the very beginning. CCBill is currently in good standing and plans to continue processing for our European clients.

If we can be of any help please do not hesitate to contact our sales department at [email protected] or contact me.

Jeff N.
Sales Director
Jeff@CCBill
888 906 0666 ex 153

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greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Dear Valued Clients: We regret to inform you that WebsiteBilling.com Ltd (WebsiteBilling.co.uk), despite our very best efforts, will have no choice but to cease operations on Friday, May 23, 2003. We were recently informed by our European Acquiring Bank (one of the largest banks in Europe and one of the last that was willing to work with Aggregators and "IPSP's") that the Aggregators and IPSP's they work with are being closed due to the pressure and administrative requirements passed down by Visa/MC. By losing this merchant relationship, we have no practical way to maintain our current client database. In the past few months, we have unfortunately dealt with arbitrary fines imposed by card associations, foreign banks and agents taking weeks worth of deposits, and general harassment as the associations have taken very clear aim at the IPSP business model. (see Paycom's current lawsuit as well as WebsiteBilling.com, Inc's. lawsuit from 2001). We have operated with the best of intentions in trying to fighting through these issues and regaining strength, but there is unfortunately nowhere else to turn when our current and primary bank chose to exit the business. We are very proud of the service that we have offered and are grateful to have had the opportunity to work with many terrific individuals. We are very hopeful that the lawsuit mentioned above will bring meaningful change in the way that card associations deal with merchants in our space, but it appears that in the meantime, they have claimed another casualty. We wish you the very best of luck and may be in touch if further information becomes available. Sincerely, Evin Daly Managing Director WebsiteBilling.com Ltd. London __________________ blunts

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05-22-2003, 04:52 PM	#49
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