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Old 08-30-2023, 03:46 AM   #51
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yea few webmasters or marketers will accept a revshare deal these days. that's why they invented affiliates

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Old 08-30-2023, 03:49 AM   #52
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The thing is about 'marketing' these days is that, in this new landscape, the outlets for traffic have shrunk big time. If you do not do tube promotions what other sites have the traffic numbers you can tap into?

Ad sales only work under certain circumstances (not great for paysites), link trades/buys do ok depending on the source but tend to 'run out' in terms of effectiveness relatively quickly these days...so it can be frustrating and can lead to the stagnation you mentioned.



Depending on how many videos you have to use for tube promos there is definitely a way to do a 50/50 split where it's all profit for you. This is what I do for many Producers. But I also understand the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality.
Definitely agree with your last comment

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Depending on how many videos you have to use for tube promos there is definitely a way to do a 50/50 split where it's all profit for you.
In any given year we'll make 3 to 4 movies,This started in 2003.... We still sell the oldest movies on our VOD platform, not many times, but lets say 30 x /year, so lets say $1000 /year to us. Now, if I would put one of these " old Dogs" on lets say Xvideos, I doubt it would give me $1,000 per year. If I had our movies on any tube basically our VOD business would go down to zero.

FYI: we also have a mainstream movie business and there we do license to AVOD streaming companies like Tubi TV,Amazon,Digital Max etc.... but we do NOT do that ourselves we do that thru a distributor .
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Old 08-30-2023, 03:57 AM   #53
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Damn... that hits home
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Old 08-30-2023, 08:22 AM   #54
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Definitely agree with your last comment



In any given year we'll make 3 to 4 movies,This started in 2003.... We still sell the oldest movies on our VOD platform, not many times, but lets say 30 x /year, so lets say $1000 /year to us. Now, if I would put one of these " old Dogs" on lets say Xvideos, I doubt it would give me $1,000 per year. If I had our movies on any tube basically our VOD business would go down to zero.

FYI: we also have a mainstream movie business and there we do license to AVOD streaming companies like Tubi TV,Amazon,Digital Max etc.... but we do NOT do that ourselves we do that thru a distributor .
Well TBH if your VOD of older titles brings in but $1000 a year then I would actually disagree with you when it comes to tubes and Content Partner sites. You can always PM me or on Skype for more specific details but if you did what you suggested you would make way, way more than $83 monthly as you do now from VOD.
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Old 08-31-2023, 07:38 AM   #55
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Well TBH if your VOD of older titles brings in but $1000 a year then I would actually disagree with you when it comes to tubes and Content Partner sites. You can always PM me or on Skype for more specific details but if you did what you suggested you would make way, way more than $83 monthly as you do now from VOD.
You misunderstood

The 1000/ year is from ONE 20 year OLD movie. The 10 year old movie will make about 3,000/ year and the newer ones closer to 5,000 . Never mind the newest one or two.Those are recouping costs so I do not count them for 3 to 4 months after release.

Now, lets say that from about 60 movies we have:

20 are the old crap
20 are in between
20 are recent

so do the math from there

But hey, I appreciate your suggestions and may get in touch in the future.
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You misunderstood

The 1000/ year is from ONE 20 year OLD movie. The 10 year old movie will make about 3,000/ year and the newer ones closer to 5,000 . Never mind the newest one or two.Those are recouping costs so I do not count them for 3 to 4 months after release.

Now, lets say that from about 60 movies we have:

20 are the old crap
20 are in between
20 are recent

so do the math from there

But hey, I appreciate your suggestions and may get in touch in the future.
No worries! I am not familiar with your site or operation but it sounds like you have things going really well, even for the older stuff! Keep going as they say.
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