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Old 02-04-2025, 02:07 PM   #1
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Biggest scam on the industry?

Epassporte? Who else stole more money from the industry as a whole?
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Epassporte? Who else stole more money from the industry as a whole?
My sales did not recover for a year after the DeeCash fiasco. I mentioned in another thread I got threatening phonecalls in the middle of the night from some dude who was ripped off for $300+ dollars on his banged credit card...

I lost 4 figures from epassporte, I was soooooo stupid to leave a balance on that card! Live and learn...
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Epassporte? Who else stole more money from the industry as a whole?
Sponsors that turned off affiliate rebills.

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Old 02-04-2025, 07:25 PM   #4
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I lost 4 figures from epassporte, I was soooooo stupid to leave a balance on that card! Live and learn...
You got off easy my friend.. how I wish mine was just four figures.. even low/mid 5's.. yes we were all naive and stupid and missed the signs or just too damn apathetic.. live and learn indeed
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I was still somewhat of a newb during the iBill debacle so dodged that thankfully.. but for me it was ePassporte
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I was still somewhat of a newb during the iBill debacle so dodged that thankfully.. but for me it was ePassporte
I forgot about ibill! They may have been bigger than epass
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I arrived in Vegas with $20 cash in my pocket, a blackamex and my epassporte card.

As soon as I used epassporte they locked the card and would only reactivate it by phone to my home number once I was back in Australia. That was 6 months before they went belly up and thankfully it saved me because of the Vegas fiasco, I'd already removed all my $$ and told them to get fucked.

Being in Vegas with no cash sucks, even the fucking cabs in the early 00's didn't take credit cards... however stretched limos did ;)
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Sponsors that turned off affiliate rebills.

This is a big one for me too. I had several sponsors over the last 20 years that cut off lifetime rebills
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Acacia... They made a fortune from idiots...
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Acacia... They made a fortune from idiots...
That was sooooo fucking funny! Biggest scam. Not sure how much they made though
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Acacia... They made a fortune from idiots...
I remember those clowns. I threw their letter straight in a garbage can.
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I probably have it filed away somewhere
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Was there ever a thread where everyone posted how much they lost? I lost in the low 4-figures. Was saving that money to throw a sick party that never happened!
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Hmm...

Epassporte cost me about $0 because I was able to pull my money out and even got it out for a few people here.

Deecash cost me about $25,000?

Teenrevenue cost me perhaps $10,000?

X-Profits perhaps $12,000?

various others add up to $40,000 or so?

Part of the business I guess.
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Hmm...

Epassporte cost me about $0 because I was able to pull my money out and even got it out for a few people here.

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I was too lazy to move my money from my account to my wallet. Took me 4 months but got my 14k back. How much did he get away with you think?
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This is a big one for me too. I had several sponsors over the last 20 years that cut off lifetime rebills
The use of the word "lifetime" was always suspicious to me . . .
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Globill was not awesome.

Chio the Pirate did not scam me for a lot, but I felt so dumb getting scammed by someone named Chio the Pirate.
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St. Kitts did some damage.
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Globill was not awesome.

Chio the Pirate did not scam me for a lot, but I felt so dumb getting scammed by someone named Chio the Pirate.
What was the name of his garbage-ass billing company? He scammed a couple of the people who worked on AutoBlogger also. Said it was all for his daughter.

Fuckin' absolute loser. I met him in Costa Rica once, too. Jimmy.
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Got caught billing for underage model sites and lost their MIDs.

Cost me $5000

Philipp Rothermund - Mountain View Licensing - kept license fees from his customers and didn't pay me my share.

Cost me €10000
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Surprised no one mentionned MindGeek who stole so much content that fucked up so many companies producing exclusive content. Probably not a scam but thieves IMHO
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Surprised no one mentionned MindGeek who stole so much content that fucked up so many companies producing exclusive content. Probably not a scam but thieves IMHO
Yeah they fucked the industry as a whole. But I was thinking more $$ like ibill epass ect. Babenet took a ton of money with them.
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At least three banks closed thousands of merchant accounts last year and kept the reserves. Massive scale theft of tens of millions from people in our industry.
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At least three banks closed thousands of merchant accounts last year and kept the reserves. Massive scale theft of tens of millions from people in our industry.
What was the name of the Israeli bank they blew up? See blew up thousands of merchant account
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Surprised no one mentionned MindGeek who stole so much content that fucked up so many companies producing exclusive content. Probably not a scam but thieves IMHO
Yeah, and 90% of the processing headaches in this industry stem from their arrogance. Mastercard and Visa write every new rule and regulation as if every website is Pornhub.
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ProAdult and then Epoch when they stopped paying out affiliate checks and passed the ball to the programs. Actually, Epoch before that, but that's another story for another day.
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ProAdult and then Epoch when they stopped paying out affiliate checks and passed the ball to the programs. Actually, Epoch before that, but that's another story for another day.
Was epoch bigger than ibill? Ibill had everyone there at one time.
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Was epoch bigger than ibill? Ibill had everyone there at one time.
Epoch is still going strong, one of the larger 3rd party billers out there. My issue is when they stopped paying out affiliates directly with only 2 months warning.
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Was there ever a thread where everyone posted how much they lost? I lost in the low 4-figures. Was saving that money to throw a sick party that never happened!
Think so.. some guy unfortunately took his life apparently he had a staggering amount in there.

I dropped my guard because epass came through for me when my virtual visa was defrauded for like 8k and this was before they introduced the 'wallet' feature. Looking back that whole thing did seem suspicious..

But epass was really a godsend for international people who had to wait for weeks for checks to clear, because you could re-invest that money you got paid in traffic and whatever else right away.
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It was me, I stole everyone's hearts.
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At least three banks closed thousands of merchant accounts last year and kept the reserves. Massive scale theft of tens of millions from people in our industry.
Was waiting for this.

It's clear a number of people here don't have their own billing MIDs. We could go right down the list and start with North American Bancard or go even higher by saying Wirecard.
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Was waiting for this.

It's clear a number of people here don't have their own billing MIDs. We could go right down the list and start with North American Bancard or go even higher by saying Wirecard.
Wire card! Forgot about them.
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How is Francis Koenig from Adultvest (Iporn) doing?

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Them and babe net stole millions
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never forget who fucked you, never go back to them.......
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Not the biggest in the industry, but one of the biggest on GFY, and the most entertaining was 'tracy' selling 'high quality content'.

He (She?) got me for $200. The content turned out to be stolen and mostly of crackheads.
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Not the biggest in the industry, but one of the biggest on GFY, and the most entertaining was 'tracy' selling 'high quality content'.

He (She?) got me for $200. The content turned out to be stolen and mostly of crackheads.
The best part is you could get it for free by looking at "her" web server webalizer stats. It was left unprotected and showed most popular links there. That content was shot with 1 pixel potato.
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One of the biggest scams is X-profits!
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I got most or all of my money back from epassporte - something like $10K if I recall.

Currently owed over $2K by both Offerverse (WankzVR) and Pornify.cc.

Naughty Revenue deserves a mention as I know that they owed lots of affiliates sizeable amounts. I got my $7K or so back in the end, but I'm not sure everybody was so lucky. It's one thing a sponsor program closing and not paying affiliates, but I don't understand how a top bona-fide site (and American too) could just brazenly not pay tens of thousands of dollars owed to affiliates for several years, and ignore their emails.
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If we look at how much some of this single only fans girls are making...
I suspect it reveals mass theft from all affiliate programs over all time.

Single OF models are making so much $$ that when compared to the past.. the math, just doesnt math.

Some of these ho's are making astronomical numbers.. that i have to believe were being made before, but pennies were paid out to affiliates , models, creators.

Would be interesting for someone with a mathematical brain to look into

Maybe "reach" is a thing im not taking into account but I also believe "scarcity" was a thing before.

The numbers dont add up
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Too bad Juicy is not here anymore to bump this thread with his legendary fake profile iBill Rodrigo..
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If we look at how much some of this single only fans girls are making...
I suspect it reveals mass theft from all affiliate programs over all time.

Single OF models are making so much $$ that when compared to the past.. the math, just doesnt math.

Some of these ho's are making astronomical numbers.. that i have to believe were being made before, but pennies were paid out to affiliates , models, creators.

Would be interesting for someone with a mathematical brain to look into

Maybe "reach" is a thing im not taking into account but I also believe "scarcity" was a thing before.

The numbers dont add up
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He (She?) got me for $200. The content turned out to be stolen and mostly of crackheads.
Dirty D's CrackWhoreConfessions was a huuuuuuuge seller. The clips of them telling their stories without even taking their clothes off made sales.
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:12 AM   #50
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What was the name of his garbage-ass billing company? He scammed a couple of the people who worked on AutoBlogger also. Said it was all for his daughter.

Fuckin' absolute loser. I met him in Costa Rica once, too. Jimmy.
GetVerified.com was the one he used when I knew him. Fuck, that was over 20 years ago. James May. I tried finding him a while back, but he has completely disappeared. Probably dead.
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