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AaronM · 07-16-2005, 12:47 PM

Putting all the bad blood aside....

The reason that I initially started talking with this guy is because I saw a lot of drive and determination in him.

If more newbies showed the same kind of passion and hunger for success in this business then things would be grand.

As misguided as he may be at times, you can not dispute his dedication to learning this business. That part of him reminds me a lot of myself when i was getting started.

I respect him for that if nothing else.

After Shock Media · 07-16-2005, 12:50 PM

Very cool of you to post this.

Nismo · 07-16-2005, 12:52 PM

Respect.

brand0n · 07-16-2005, 12:52 PM

can he use that content now? that would atleast be something.

JOKER · 07-16-2005, 12:54 PM

Well spoken Aaron.

JOKER · 07-16-2005, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

can he use that content now? that would atleast be something.

Just drop that issue...

It's all good.

Mako · 07-16-2005, 12:56 PM

Then cut him a check.

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

can he use that content now? that would atleast be something.

Fuck no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Then cut him a check.

And fuck you.

Mako · 07-16-2005, 12:59 PM

No name calling or insults, not from me anyway. Stay on topic.

If he's admirable, do the right thing and cut a check.

brand0n · 07-16-2005, 01:01 PM

if he makes final payment on that content can he use it?

kaori · 07-16-2005, 01:07 PM

He's got gumption, doesn't he!

heheh

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

No name calling or insults, not from me anyway. Stay on topic.

If he's admirable, do the right thing and cut a check.

Look troll. The right thing in business is not the same as giving somebody credit where credit is due. I did the right thing business wise and EVERY major player in this business who has discussed this with me one on one agrees with my decision. Who are you again?

For a guy who consistently says he wants to stay out of this, I find it ironic that you are always sticking your nose in the situation in favor of the other party.

Shut the fuck up, you are doing him and yourself no favors here.

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

if he makes final payment on that content can he use it?

What part of "fuck no" are you having problems comprehending?

Let it go, Brandon.

Deej · 07-16-2005, 01:10 PM

fuckin let it go, Aaron was paying him a little fortitude....
he wasnt offering reprieve....So STFU.....besides if SoS is the proud person he states....then he wouldnt accept the content or even offer to pay the remaining dividend.....so accept Aarons post as it is....A thumbs up to the little guy....reguardless of the pasts....stinky shit!

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori

He's got gumption, doesn't he!

heheh

And a rather large set of balls, at times.

Mako · 07-16-2005, 01:11 PM

Who started the thread?

I'm sorry, I'm confused...you started this sonofsam thread, I participated and now I'm a "troll" (LOL) and I'm "sticking my nose in".

You're looking for pats on the back here, and possibly some biz to move out of Donovan's place by seemingly making it right. Instead of words, try actions. Get D to loan you the cash, cut sonofsam a check, come back on the board and tell us about how you made it right and that the situation just got out of control, and that you're now open for new biz.

That's the play to make. Deeds, not words.

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

fuckin let it go, Aaron was paying him a little fortitude....
he was offering reprieve....So STFU.....besides if SoS is the proud person he states....then he wouldnt accept the content or even offer to pay the remaining dividend.....so accept Aarons post as it is....A thumbs up to the little guy....reguardless of the pasts....stinky shit!

Exactly.

baddog · 07-16-2005, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Then cut him a check.

I think this thread has more value than a check.

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Who started the thread?

I'm sorry, I'm confused...you started this sonofsam thread, I participated and now I'm a "troll" (LOL) and I'm "sticking my nose in".

You're looking for pats on the back here, and possibly some biz to move out of Donovan's place by seemingly making it right. Instead of words, try actions. Get D to loan you the cash, cut sonofsam a check, come back on the board and tell us about how you made it right and that the situation just got out of control, and that you're now open for new biz.

That's the play to make. Deeds, not words.

You sir, are totally clueless.

Too funny.

baddog · 07-16-2005, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

and possibly some biz to move out of Donovan's place by seemingly making it right.

I will be honest, I wasn't sure if Aaron's labeling you a troll was accurate or not. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

Mako · 07-16-2005, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

You sir, are totally clueless.

Too funny.

That may be, but it's still the play I would make myself in the similar situation. Eventually I'd just get to the point where I dreaded seing sos's name attached to mine and look at it as a loss (though in this case refunding his payment isn't a loss, because he doesn't have licenses anyway and no real work was done on this volume bulk buy. Correct me if I'm wrong there, if these were exclusive shoots or something that's entirely diff.)

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:17 PM

The fact is that Donovan and Belinda invited me here to shoot local models. I've spent thousands of dollars here and made even more. My clients are happy, Donovan & Belinda are happy..as well as being compensated for their generosity, and the models are happy.

You however are nothing more than a troll who is blindly stabbing at the dark for insults because you can't handle the truth.

Now, kindly fuck off.

Nylz · 07-16-2005, 01:17 PM

Good thread

Deej · 07-16-2005, 01:18 PM

B-U-S-I-N-E-S-S

can you say business boy n girls....

read the fine print

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

That may be, but it's still the play I would make myself in the similar situation. Eventually I'd just get to the point where I dreaded seing sos's name attached to mine and look at it as a loss (though in this case refunding his payment isn't a loss, because he doesn't have licenses anyway and no real work was done on this volume bulk buy. Correct me if I'm wrong there, if these were exclusive shoots or something that's entirely diff.)

Perhaps, with all your trolling, you missed the part where sonofsam and I dropped the issue?

Furthermore, I no longer feel the need to explain myself to trolls like you.

Shoehorn! · 07-16-2005, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Very cool of you to post this.

Definately.

Mako · 07-16-2005, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

The fact is that Donovan and Belinda invited me her to shoot local models. I've spent thousands of dollars here and made even more. My clients are happy, Donovan & Belinda are happy..as well as being compensated for their generosity, and the models are happy.

You however are nothing more than a troll who is blindly stabbing at the dark for insults because you can't handle the truth.

Now, kindly fuck off.

Donovan and Belinda's generosity aside, there are no insults here. Only reality. You want your business to grow, there is no doubt in my mind that it's been hampered by this negative publicity. I'm not going to provide more details about your current situation as it's none of the board's business. My intention was not to embarass you or flame you, but to offer a course of action that could free you from it. Have you actually being the hero instead of trying to just appear as one.

I won't post in this thread again, I've said my two cents and you've elected not to take the advice, as is your perrogative.

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Very cool of you to post this.

I thought so too...But leave it to a troll to fuck things up.

BTW, Mako....If all I am doing is looking for business then how come I rarely post in threads were people are asking for content? Why do I not include my contact info for people to reach me for business?

EVERYBODY KNOW THIS.........

My hands are full right now. I am NOT taking on any new content clients for any reason. PERIOD.

Deej · 07-16-2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Donovan and Belinda's generosity aside, there are no insults here. Only reality. You want your business to grow, there is no doubt in my mind that it's been hampered by this negative publicity. I'm not going to provide more details about your current situation as it's none of the board's business. My intention was not to embarass you or flame you, but to offer a course of action that could free you from it. Have you actually being the hero instead of trying to just appear as one.

I won't post in this thread again, I've said my two cents and you've elected not to take the advice, as is your perrogative.

Dont you try talking fancy to us mister....

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

I'm not going to provide more details about your current situation as it's none of the board's business.

You don't know fuck all about my situation as you have clearly displayed in this thread.

Your insinuations are childish at best...Just like your trolling.

JOKER · 07-16-2005, 01:29 PM

Way to go, to fuck a very kind and positive thread up...

GFY sometimes...

basschick · 07-16-2005, 01:33 PM

good post!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Putting all the bad blood aside....

The reason that I initially started talking with this guy is because I saw a lot of drive and determination in him.

If more newbies showed the same kind of passion and hunger for success in this business then things would be grand.

As misguided as he may be at times, you can not dispute his dedication to learning this business. That part of him reminds me a lot of myself when i was getting started.

I respect him for that if nothing else.

NoCarrier · 07-16-2005, 01:33 PM

Sometimes giving hope is more cruel.

Mako · 07-16-2005, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

Dont you try talking fancy to us mister....

lol sorry Deej, I'll go to my room.

Aaron: As I said before, I'm done with this thread. I offered advice and you chose not to take it, which is your right. You can call this trolling, yada yada yada, you press the "T" button awfully fast, but at the end of the day if you remove your emotions from the incident and re-read the words, you'll see there's a path laid out before you to redemption.

Donovan: If you're a true friend, and I am positive you are considering what you've done the past month, then help him find the path. He'll listen to you more than me, that is certain.

JOKER · 07-16-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

and possibly some biz to move out of Donovan's place by seemingly making it right. Instead of words, try actions. Get D to loan you the cash, cut sonofsam a check, come back on the board and tell us about how you made it right and that the situation just got out of control, and that you're now open for new biz.

That's the play to make. Deeds, not words.

How clueless are you exactly?

Looks like you can't understand that friends / collegues invite you sometimes to stay and make use of the area / environment for business...

Has to be hard to have no friends that invite you sometimes

I feel for you man...

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

lol sorry Deej, I'll go to my room.

Aaron: As I said before, I'm done with this thread. I offered advice and you chose not to take it, which is your right. You can call this trolling, yada yada yada, you press the "T" button awfully fast, but at the end of the day if you remove your emotions from the incident and re-read the words, you'll see there's a path laid out before you to redemption.

Donovan: If you're a true friend, and I am positive you are considering what you've done the past month, then help him find the path. He'll listen to you more than me, that is certain.

Fuck you and your path. Your path has nothing to do with common business sense.

And don't be sticking Donovan in the middle of this. He's also a content provider and unlike you and many others here, he understands how to protect his content rights.

Now, get the fuck out of this thread already.....Troll.

Deej · 07-16-2005, 01:40 PM

Lets all get out of this thread, i think the point was stated and all is .... over.....or...is it

Tune in folks....next week....Same Aaron time, Same Aaron Channel....g,night folks

Belinda · 07-16-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Who started the thread?

I'm sorry, I'm confused...you started this sonofsam thread, I participated and now I'm a "troll" (LOL) and I'm "sticking my nose in".

You're looking for pats on the back here, and possibly some biz to move out of Donovan's place by seemingly making it right. Instead of words, try actions. Get D to loan you the cash, cut sonofsam a check, come back on the board and tell us about how you made it right and that the situation just got out of control, and that you're now open for new biz.

That's the play to make. Deeds, not words.

Donny and I have volunteered to let Aaron shoot some of our models. We are not paying the models HE shoots and we are not buying his food. He is NOT living here either. He is staying as our guest to help our models make more money for themselves. Some of you know that Donny has let other photographers stay at our place to shoot our girls and all of them have payed their own way and model fees. Aaron is no different. Having him here has been a great learning experience for both Donny and I and we can both say that Aaron is doing fine financially. He does not need Donny to cut him a check for anyone.

jonesy · 07-16-2005, 01:45 PM

i think son of sam should bake you some cookies.

Spunky · 07-16-2005, 01:46 PM

JOKER · 07-16-2005, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky

Exactly... just chill man.

baddog · 07-16-2005, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Aaron: As I said before, I'm done with this thread.

Yet, here you are.

xlogger · 07-16-2005, 01:55 PM

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla drama?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-16-2005, 02:03 PM

ATTN WHORE, UR GHEY

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

ATTN WHORE, UR GHEY

Says the guy using big red letters to make sure that he is seen.

Too funny.

AaronM · 07-16-2005, 02:09 PM

From here on....All comments posted by trolls will be ignored.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-16-2005, 02:13 PM

Fuck entirelly off.

Deej · 07-16-2005, 02:16 PM

gonna break another?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-16-2005, 02:19 PM

Not bad for a guy that was scammed and shorted 3600 bucks.

Son Of Sam is gonna be a great webmaster, at 19yrs he is kicking ass.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-16-2005, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

gonna break another?

I am workin on 17k

07-16-2005, 12:47 PM	#1
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Another sonofsam thread. Putting all the bad blood aside.... The reason that I initially started talking with this guy is because I saw a lot of drive and determination in him. If more newbies showed the same kind of passion and hunger for success in this business then things would be grand. As misguided as he may be at times, you can not dispute his dedication to learning this business. That part of him reminds me a lot of myself when i was getting started. I respect him for that if nothing else.

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Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	fuckin let it go, Aaron was paying him a little fortitude.... he wasnt offering reprieve....So STFU.....besides if SoS is the proud person he states....then he wouldnt accept the content or even offer to pay the remaining dividend.....so accept Aarons post as it is....A thumbs up to the little guy....reguardless of the pasts....stinky shit! __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880 Last edited by Deej; 07-16-2005 at 01:11 PM..

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Mako Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The OC baby! Posts: 1,986	Who started the thread? I'm sorry, I'm confused...you started this sonofsam thread, I participated and now I'm a "troll" (LOL) and I'm "sticking my nose in". You're looking for pats on the back here, and possibly some biz to move out of Donovan's place by seemingly making it right. Instead of words, try actions. Get D to loan you the cash, cut sonofsam a check, come back on the board and tell us about how you made it right and that the situation just got out of control, and that you're now open for new biz. That's the play to make. Deeds, not words. __________________

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AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	The fact is that Donovan and Belinda invited me here to shoot local models. I've spent thousands of dollars here and made even more. My clients are happy, Donovan & Belinda are happy..as well as being compensated for their generosity, and the models are happy. You however are nothing more than a troll who is blindly stabbing at the dark for insults because you can't handle the truth. Now, kindly fuck off. Last edited by AaronM; 07-16-2005 at 01:20 PM..

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