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Libertine · 09-05-2006, 04:03 PM

100 dumb trolls.

mikesouth · 09-05-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Actually, an animal he wasn't an expert on killed him. He was an expert on reptiles living on land.

Also, getting killed by the stingray was clearly an accident. Stingrays aren't generally considered extremely dangerous animals. To quote an expert: "It's a one-in-a-million thing." (source)

when you encroach on an animal and it kills you in self defense it isnt an accident, you asked for it.

I know people who do stupid shit like he did, ride nurse sharks and stingrays and whatnot....and when they die doing it I will say the same thing about them

adultgamesnet · 09-05-2006, 04:06 PM

mike did have some good points, but other points such as Steve deserving death are too harsh and could have been reworded. mike should admit to some errors in his original thought instead of defending them.

Good points...
Most of the world's perception on certain animals. That certain "tame" (notice the quotes), un-domesticated animals may enjoy a good scratch behind the ear. Steve Irwin greatly aided in this.

Steve did a great number of other positive things for conservation. He was also an ENTERTAINER. Even if you disagere with the world's perception on animals which was further misrepresented by Steve Irwin, you can't hate on the positive things he did in Australia and for Zoos around the world.

He got what was coming, but he did not deserve it. The word 'deserve' is open to MUCH interpretation and was one of the few errors in your original blog post.

With regards to the obsession human's have with touching everything, you couldn't be more right. The entire area of wild animal entertainment is totally fucked and in the wrong direction.

adultgamesnet · 09-05-2006, 04:10 PM

Also, your wording of cats and dogs "tolerating" you is false. Tolerates? Cats coming up to you...rubbing on you, looking for you to pet them.. doesnt sound like a cat toleratnig its master to me?

jigga · 09-05-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

he didn't open avenues of discovery he misrepresented nature to the masses. If you like the taste of his kool aid go ride a stingray...and when you die I will call you a dumb mother fucker too

mikesouth · 09-05-2006, 04:12 PM

You are correct in that I might have been more "delicate" in my wording but I am writing for a reaction and I got one...lots even.

You see most of the time people can't see something until someone wakes them up. I like to wake them up, make them think, get a reaction.

mission....accomplished wouldnt you say?

Dirty Dane · 09-05-2006, 04:12 PM

I dont think he deserved it, but can't really understand why the aussie primeminister, and others, were shocked by this....Everyone wise would say; when you play with fire, you may get burned.

uvort · 09-05-2006, 04:14 PM

Sad to see him go, he was one crazy guy.

mikesouth · 09-05-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by adultgamesnet

Also, your wording of cats and dogs "tolerating" you is false. Tolerates? Cats coming up to you...rubbing on you, looking for you to pet them.. doesnt sound like a cat toleratnig its master to me?

Ok go give a bengal tiger a little scratch behind the ear...he doesnt need you to live and Im sure he is just dying for your attention.

dumbass

Libertine · 09-05-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

You are correct in that I might have been more "delicate" in my wording but I am writing for a reaction and I got one...lots even.

Congratulations, you discovered the art of trolling.

adultgamesnet · 09-05-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Ok go give a bengal tiger a little scratch behind the ear...he doesnt need you to live and Im sure he is just dying for your attention.

dumbass

I was OBVIOUSLY referring to pet cats, not bengal tigers.
Notice I said "cats and dogs" and "Cats coming up to you... rubbing on you, looking for you to pet them".

So you derive bengal tigers from that?

dumbass

BusterBunny · 09-05-2006, 04:19 PM

did he deserve it?.....no

was it odd that he was killed by an animal?.....no

L-Pink · 09-05-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

You are correct in that I might have been more "delicate" in my wording but I am writing for a reaction and I got one...lots even.

You see most of the time people can't see something until someone wakes them up. I like to wake them up, make them think, get a reaction.

mission....accomplished wouldnt you say?

Actually if you work hard for something you earn/deserve it.

Steve worked hard at interacting with critters that should be seen and not touched. Blame it on reality tv ......

mikesouth · 09-05-2006, 04:22 PM

your pet dog and cat are your slaves they dont know any different.

take the same canine and feline that hasnt been domesticated and enslaved and see how much it appreciates your "affection"

you see this is the fucking problem...people see animals as having these humanistic qualities and want to equate them with their domesticated dogs and cats and the result is a deadly idea that all you have to do is be nice to them and they will be affectionate to you.

Look at Siegfried and Roy ... theres another good exampole of what happens when you fool yourself into believing that a wild animal is harmless...even when its been raised by you from birth.

SilverTab · 09-05-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Of course i didnt want him dead nor am I glad he is dead.

Consider me a lot like the stingray that killed him...Its just really irrelevant

Now the good thing would be if people would learn from it and recognize that maybe he was entertaining but what he did was often patently stupid and it earned him his death.

fair enough...

not like jasonir who started a thread saying he was glad he is dead because his show was annoying....

mikesouth · 09-05-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Congratulations, you discovered the art of trolling.

Congratulations you discovered that people who write editorial content might know how to draw out a response...troll or whatever it worked on YOU didn't it?

But I'm the idiot right?

I do love idiots thought...really I do Y'all make life so much fun.

Libertine · 09-05-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Congratulations you discovered that people who write editorial content might know how to draw out a response...troll or whatever it worked on YOU didn't it?

But I'm the idiot right?

I do love idiots thought...really I do Y'all make life so much fun.

This is posting on a message board. A message board owned by adult.com, not by you. With advertising revenues going to adult.com, not you. Hence, your main reason for posting this here is a personal desire for attention.

Yes, it worked on me. You successfully got me to call you an idiot several dozens of times. If you believe that to be a worthwhile achievement, you are indeed "the idiot".

Webby · 09-05-2006, 04:43 PM

This is one awesome irrelevant thread - tho would stem from any successful person or popular event.

If the world blew up - we'd have GFY threads supporting the fact that the world "deserved it".

Steve was a much respected guy among his fellow naturalists and conservationists - most of them, by far, better qualified that anyone of GFY to give comment.

He was also committed to educating people about the wildlife of this planet - a subject very few have a clue about - and did this in his own "Crikey! style".

Steve Irwin was passionately against the hunting of wildlife, not just as the popular "Crocodile Hunter", and operated a facility for the rehabilitation of sick and injured creatures.

It is thanks to Steve and people like him that many endangered species still exist and thanks to the ignorant, that many species no longer exist.

On the day Steve died, I bumped into a friend who does similar naturalist work and knows of his contribution to wildlife conservation - he was very sad to hear of Steve's accident and had nothing but praise for him. This same guy is accredited with the recovery of two almost extinct species, is a major contributor to National Geographic and has a allegedly handled more reptile species over the globe than anyone - he is qualified to give an opinion on Steve.

RIP Steve - others will remember you.

niceanice · 09-05-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

when you encroach on an animal and it kills you in self defense it isnt an accident, you asked for it.

agreed, heres an eyewitnness account of what happened:

Mr Cropp said the stingray was spooked and went into defensive mood.

"It probably felt threatened because Steve was alongside and there was the cameraman ahead, and it felt there was danger and it baulked.

"It stopped and went into a defensive mode and swung its tail with the spike.

L-Pink · 09-05-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

This is one awesome irrelevant thread - tho would stem from any successful person or popular event.

If the world blew up - we'd have GFY threads supporting the fact that the world "deserved it".

Steve was a much respected guy among his fellow naturalists and conservationists - most of them, by far, better qualified that anyone of GFY to give comment.

He was also committed to educating people about the wildlife of this planet - a subject very few have a clue about - and did this in his own "Crikey! style".

Steve Irwin was passionately against the hunting of wildlife, not just as the popular "Crocodile Hunter", and operated a facility for the rehabilitation of sick and injured creatures.

It is thanks to Steve and people like him that many endangered species still exist and thanks to the ignorant, that many species no longer exist.

On the day Steve died, I bumped into a friend who does similar naturalist work and knows of his contribution to wildlife conservation - he was very sad to hear of Steve's accident and had nothing but praise for him. This same guy is accredited with the recovery of two almost extinct species, is a major contributor to National Geographic and has a allegedly handled more reptile species over the globe than anyone - he is qualified to give an opinion on Steve.

RIP Steve - others will remember you.

Nice obituary ... No-ones charity or conservation work should be or was criticized. His ratings driven "surprise critters! I'm here to introduce trauma into your life and endanger my own" tv show sucked and I thought he was an idiot!

Now he's dead from dropping in on a huge fucking stingray!

BARDIOC · 09-05-2006, 05:02 PM

I found this thread very useful. I've managed to add quite a few dumb-asses to my Ignore list:

DarkJedi
mikesouth
mrthumbs
jasonir
L-Pink

niceanice · 09-05-2006, 05:03 PM

What could possibly go wrong???

fitzmulti · 09-05-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

What a fucking pussy you must be to say some shit like that from the safety of your computer. Your parents must be proud.

He says a lot of shit from behind his computer about people he doesn't even know!

L-Pink · 09-05-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BARDIOC

I found this thread very useful. I've managed to add quite a few dumb-asses to my Ignore list:

DarkJedi
mikesouth
mrthumbs
jasonir
L-Pink

I'm on a list with those fucks? ....

mikesouth · 09-05-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fitzmulti

He says a lot of shit from behind his computer about people he doesn't even know!

and a lot more about people he does...

If I havent yet offended you give me time...I'm workin on it. You can help by letting me know what it is you are sensitive about, I will do my best to get to you as soon as possible

Thank You

Webby · 09-05-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Nice obituary ... No-ones charity or conservation work should be or was criticized. His ratings driven "surprise critters! I'm here to introduce trauma into your life and endanger my own" tv show sucked and I thought he was an idiot!

Now he's dead from dropping in on a huge fucking stingray!

Truth is, depending on the species, there is an element of risk in any wildlife scenario L-Pink. It's not often, but accidents to happen and folks who are familiar with handling species are not, least normally, at great risk.

A walk thru a rainforest or jungle can be equally dangerous on occasion - suppose that's why it's called the jungle

One thing that is totally awesome is to have a guide or expert take you thru a rainforest - amazing!! You will see things that you otherwise may never have noticed. The guy I mentioned above is good at this - in his spare time he takes groups of vets into a rainforest for a week and teaches them stuff.

Some local rainforests can be 3000-4000 square miles - lose direction in there and fat chance you will come out alive. With the height of trees and the forest canopy it's hard to tell direction - and a few folks have never been seen again.

We went with him once and that was "something else" - he always led, part of the "rules" (mainly to counter anything dangerous ahead). Some stuff from that trip - we walked by a fer de lance snake curled up (very venomous) and never noticed till he turned back and pointed it out. There are small frogs, prob only half inch in size and colorful - but touch em and you get the venom. There are plenty tree snakes of various kinds, but you'd never notice them unless they were pointed out (they blend in with the branches of trees). Walking thru a rainforest has never been so cool

On a separate occasion - we got back to the car and found a 10 foot boa under it. He was harmless, just had to pull him out - but amazing creature with a skin you'd have to see to believe, and very rare even for that area - something that needs preserved.

Anything to do with nature can be dangerous - most of it is not, but the risk is always there and a guy like Steve Irwin knew this pretty well.

sharp · 09-05-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

My views on your statement.

MaddCaz · 09-05-2006, 05:38 PM

whateveerrrr...

StickyGreen · 09-05-2006, 05:41 PM

it's one thing to criticize his actions while he is alive, but the guy is dead. c'mon now...just let it go...lol...

mikesouth · 09-05-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

it's one thing to criticize his actions while he is alive, but the guy is dead. c'mon now...just let it go...lol...

Ok when he was alive he was stupid.

Now he is dead because he was stupid when he was alive but I guess since he is dead he is no longer stupid

CDSmith · 09-05-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

You are correct in that I might have been more "delicate" in my wording but I am writing for a reaction and I got one...lots even.

This is a roundabout way of saying "I'm an attention whore", yes? :D

Seriously, no good person like Irwin "deserves" to die like that. And he was a good person, one who did a lot for conservation and fundraising for animal causes and the like. I'm sure he had a lot of very productive years left in him but it was tragically cut short.

That said, if I ever go diving again I'm wearing kevlar. :D

MPGdevil · 09-05-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

I dont think he deserved it, but can't really understand why the aussie primeminister, and others, were shocked by this....Everyone wise would say; when you play with fire, you may get burned.

Well I guess first reaction will always be chock even if in reality it is something you expect to happen one day. Furthermore he lived almost 40 years with daily dangerous situations. He knew what he was doing at he was the best at what he did. If it was some n00b playing Tarzan I am sure noone would have been chocked.

Still yes everyone knew the risks he took, and I am sure noone saw him as invinsible.

Btw policemen and firefigters are also risking their lives daily to save - not animals - but humans. Do they also deserve to die? They also do know the risk. When you play with fire you may get burned.
No they don't deserve it - nor did Steve.

Steve lived his life to the full extents and with a passion like few. He had more wisdom and balls than many. Especialy those who can only talk trash about a now dead person who led a tragic accidet. I am sure you contribute just as much to wildlife as he did, and I am sure you will have as many billion fans as he had at an age of 44

aico · 09-05-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

and a lot more about people he does...

If I havent yet offended you give me time...I'm workin on it. You can help by letting me know what it is you are sensitive about, I will do my best to get to you as soon as possible

Thank You

You lack the intelligence to offend me.

czarina · 09-05-2006, 06:00 PM

It is true that he was always bugging the poor animals, but he was an enviromentalist, and one of the few who was actually doing something to try to save this planet... I think his death is a loss for the tree huggers.
Granted, he made his money pissing off a bunch of animals, but he did not hurt them.

minusonebit · 09-05-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

from www.mikesouth.com/index.htm

09/05/2006

Fucking With Animals:

I am rather appalled at the outpouring of concern over this Steve Erwin character, yes he was likeable but truth is he was a moron who was doing a disservice to the world and I am amazed he lived as long as he did.

You see I am a true nature lover, an outdoorsman and someone who understands animals.

In nature, and that includes underwater as well as on land you are one of three things at any given moment. You are predator, or you are prey or you are irrelevant. Many larger animals like stingrays, manatees, porpoises and the like have few if any natural predators, to them a human is just another animal so long as it isnt acting in a threatening manner. They simply prefer to just keep a safe distance.

A few animals will intentionally stalk and kill a human, crocodiles, some sharks under the right circumstances and polar bears.

Animals dont have feelings, they don't have compassion and they don't want to be cuddled or loved or ridden. Outside of domesticated animals all animals see any attempt at contact as an immediate threat.

They do understand sex, hunger and fear and they will kill in response to the last two, mother nature has given them a myriad of way to protect themselves and every single one will do so when it feels fear.

Mr Erwin was guilty of being a threat and he got what was long overdue. But moreso than that he was guilty of being stupid and of projecting human qualities onto animals and in doing so to lure idiots all over the world into believing that most of the world around them is filled with animals that are perfectly fine with human contact. A sort of world filled with stuffed animals that you can touch and ride and cuddle with.

That ain't how it works.

Your dog or cat only tolerates your contact because in years of domestication it now fully depends on you, it is no longer a part of nature but is your slave. It cannot live without you.

As a lifelong outdoorsman and avid sportsman I grew up understanding these things and as a predator I never take what I do not use and everything else, I leave alone. If you go into the woods or the water remember your place. Look, don't touch.
If you need to feel superior to an animal by riding it or touching it go home to your horse or your dog, otherwise just observe and learn and leave only your footprints.

If you hug a crocodile, or a stingray or shark or whatever and you end up dead...don't expect me to feel sorry for you, had I been that stingray I'd have killed the dumb mother fucker too.

Well put.

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy

no one deserves to die - NO ONE.

George Bush does.

Cash · 09-05-2006, 06:11 PM

Btw, I tried accessing his site, www.crocodilehunter.com and it's slow, probably so many hits to it these days ...

imafuckingaussie · 09-05-2006, 06:11 PM

I dont think he "got what he deserved", he died doing what he loved, and knew the risks etc. and I am glad he died doing what he loves rather than being mugged or hit by a bus.
He was a fantastic spokesman/ambasador for animals, the wild and Australia.

He was more famous than any Australian actor etc. according to your press, and I he came across as such a very genuine and kind person. He loved animals, and wanted to protect them and stop whaling/killing/poaching etc. all over the world. He put all his money into this, all his millions were put into his wild life funds. He didnt live a rich and fancy lifestyle, the money didnt change him.

Steve did some ridiculous things, was over the top, silly at times, and definitely a prankster at heart. But I thought he was awesome, a great aussie guy, a true entertainer, with a passion for what he loved doing that was unrivaled by anyone I've ever seen.
Ive been to his zoo long before he was famous, and that zoo was his baby, its a great place, and anyone headed to aus should check it out in QLD, hopefuly it will live long after steves death.

And those that argue that what he did was stupid, messing with dangerous animals, or agitating them etc. well I think the money he put into saving the worlds animals etc. and the positive press he gave animals/the wild and Australia, far outways the odd croc/snake/whatever that got pissed at steve poking them or holding them up for a few minutes.

RIP Steve Irwin, what a legend you were mate

.

imafuckingaussie · 09-05-2006, 06:15 PM

Well put webby

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Originally Posted by Webby

This is one awesome irrelevant thread - tho would stem from any successful person or popular event.

If the world blew up - we'd have GFY threads supporting the fact that the world "deserved it".

Steve was a much respected guy among his fellow naturalists and conservationists - most of them, by far, better qualified that anyone of GFY to give comment.

He was also committed to educating people about the wildlife of this planet - a subject very few have a clue about - and did this in his own "Crikey! style".

Steve Irwin was passionately against the hunting of wildlife, not just as the popular "Crocodile Hunter", and operated a facility for the rehabilitation of sick and injured creatures.

It is thanks to Steve and people like him that many endangered species still exist and thanks to the ignorant, that many species no longer exist.

On the day Steve died, I bumped into a friend who does similar naturalist work and knows of his contribution to wildlife conservation - he was very sad to hear of Steve's accident and had nothing but praise for him. This same guy is accredited with the recovery of two almost extinct species, is a major contributor to National Geographic and has a allegedly handled more reptile species over the globe than anyone - he is qualified to give an opinion on Steve.

RIP Steve - others will remember you.

Pleasurepays · 09-05-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroChick

You dumb shit, disrespectful son of a bitch.
Shut the fuck up.

As a true nature lover, HA, why didn't you state your high and mighty thoughts while the man was alive. He cared about animals. Sure, he was a showman, but he opened avenues of discovery to the masses.

What the hell do you do except sell porn and act like the asshole you are.

You repulse me.

he repulses you? are you serious? you are a mean, bitter, obese, old, saggy psycho, stalker hag. is that something to be proud of? dont make me post the video of you.

Drake · 09-05-2006, 06:27 PM

I wouldn't say he "deserved" it. That word is too strong. It's just no surprise because dealing with wild animals puts you in harms way. Wild animals are wild and may kill intentionally or unintentionally. I don't think that any man has the ability to communicate with the wild animals to safeguard himself.

Personally I can understand the excitement that a guy like him would have. I love animals - wild animals. I've been forever curious about them. When you're curious you often get hurt.

Twisted Dave · 09-05-2006, 06:31 PM

Yo Mike ...

if Steve's not allowed to get close to animals and simply stroke or pick up the animal ... and therefore should die ....

Why the fuck do you rape horses in the middle of the night every night and keep getting away with it?

;)

Furious_Male · 09-05-2006, 06:32 PM

He took risks doing what he loved to educate the masses about what many people consider the unknown parts of nature. His up close and personal approach helped researchers and environmentalists on many levels.

He knew the risks but he didn't deserve to die anymore then the astronauts on the doomed shuttle mission.

PerrieBelle · 09-05-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Hey at least I will sleep...and wake up without having left the people who love me behind because I felt some need to feel superior to a stingray by touching it.

You want to blame me that his widow and his kids are without him go right ahead...and while you are at it kindly point out one thing I have stated that is incorrect....If it had happened to a retarded kid who didnt know any better I might feel bad for the kid, but dumb as he was he wasn't retarded and he knew better...or at least he should have.

Mother nature doesn't like to be fucked with.

One thing .... who has actually said that he TOUCHED the ray ??
All our news here says nothing about him actually touching it!!!

Twisted Dave · 09-05-2006, 06:36 PM

One other thing too ... his wife ran the zoo with him. She was also an outdoors person who got up close with crocs and other dangerous animals ... and you know what ... I suspect his son will too ... What you have to remember, is that while everyone around him is sad for the loss, they and I am pretty sure his wife is included, wont be saying he was a dumb fuck ... they'll praise him for all the good work he did... including all the conservationist work he did. He didn't just poke animals... he saved them too.

Pleasurepays · 09-05-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

He took risks doing what he loved to educate the masses about what many people consider the unknown parts of nature. His up close and personal approach helped researchers and environmentalists on many levels.

He knew the risks but he didn't deserve to die anymore then the astronauts on the doomed shuttle mission.

you don't need to pick up poisonous snakes and lizards and insects or taunt deadly predators and poisonous fish to "educate" anyone... most of it is done for shock value and ratings.

his last bit of "education" was "if you stand in the middle of a bunch of poisonous rays, one might at any given moment feel threatened and attack and attack you and kill you". ... hope people got that message. having grown up in alaska and seeing a steady flow of "i'm sooo in touch with the planet and cosmos and animals" hippy types, getting eat by bears... i dont think that type of programming does anyone any favors.

deadly animals are deadly animals.

baddog · 09-05-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tylo

Why is it that whenever ass clown hate mongers gets offended by what other people say when they are the ones that start a stupid thread, they have to go to the spelling something correctly angel to save face?

angle . . the word is angle, not angel

Pleasurepays · 09-05-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted_Girl

One thing .... who has actually said that he TOUCHED the ray ??
All our news here says nothing about him actually touching it!!!

the news here said he was standing in shallow water in the middle of about 10 and tried to get close to the biggest one... and it slapped him with its tail (driving one of the barbs into his chest). its not like he was trying to avoid the deadly rays... or bears no responsibility for what happened.

Twisted Dave · 09-05-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

angle . . the word is angle, not angel

LOL!

The grammar wasn't up to much either

Twisted Dave · 09-05-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

the news here said he was standing in shallow water in the middle of about 10 and tried to get close to the biggest one... and it slapped him with its tail (driving one of the barbs into his chest). its not like he was trying to avoid the deadly rays... or bears no responsibility for what happened.

And you'll also note that the ray's are usually placid creatures, that don't randomly attack. What happened wasn't expected, nor did he deserve it, nor did he get what was coming to him.

PerrieBelle · 09-05-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

the news here said he was standing in shallow water in the middle of about 10 and tried to get close to the biggest one... and it slapped him with its tail (driving one of the barbs into his chest). its not like he was trying to avoid the deadly rays... or bears no responsibility for what happened.

Okay... So he may have been swimming right with these rays... but he didn't ACTUALLY touch it... ?

So Mike.... You're incorrect!!!!!!!!

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adultgamesnet Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35	mike did have some good points, but other points such as Steve deserving death are too harsh and could have been reworded. mike should admit to some errors in his original thought instead of defending them. Good points... Most of the world's perception on certain animals. That certain "tame" (notice the quotes), un-domesticated animals may enjoy a good scratch behind the ear. Steve Irwin greatly aided in this. Steve did a great number of other positive things for conservation. He was also an ENTERTAINER. Even if you disagere with the world's perception on animals which was further misrepresented by Steve Irwin, you can't hate on the positive things he did in Australia and for Zoos around the world. He got what was coming, but he did not deserve it. The word 'deserve' is open to MUCH interpretation and was one of the few errors in your original blog post. With regards to the obsession human's have with touching everything, you couldn't be more right. The entire area of wild animal entertainment is totally fucked and in the wrong direction. __________________ Adult Games

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09-05-2006, 04:12 PM	#107
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	I dont think he deserved it, but can't really understand why the aussie primeminister, and others, were shocked by this....Everyone wise would say; when you play with fire, you may get burned.

09-05-2006, 04:19 PM	#112
BusterBunny perverted justice decoy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: unborn still in the womb connected via blackberry Posts: 19,291	did he deserve it?.....no was it odd that he was killed by an animal?.....no __________________ my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

09-05-2006, 04:22 PM	#114
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	your pet dog and cat are your slaves they dont know any different. take the same canine and feline that hasnt been domesticated and enslaved and see how much it appreciates your "affection" you see this is the fucking problem...people see animals as having these humanistic qualities and want to equate them with their domesticated dogs and cats and the result is a deadly idea that all you have to do is be nice to them and they will be affectionate to you. Look at Siegfried and Roy ... theres another good exampole of what happens when you fool yourself into believing that a wild animal is harmless...even when its been raised by you from birth. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-05-2006, 04:43 PM	#118
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	This is one awesome irrelevant thread - tho would stem from any successful person or popular event. If the world blew up - we'd have GFY threads supporting the fact that the world "deserved it". Steve was a much respected guy among his fellow naturalists and conservationists - most of them, by far, better qualified that anyone of GFY to give comment. He was also committed to educating people about the wildlife of this planet - a subject very few have a clue about - and did this in his own "Crikey! style". Steve Irwin was passionately against the hunting of wildlife, not just as the popular "Crocodile Hunter", and operated a facility for the rehabilitation of sick and injured creatures. It is thanks to Steve and people like him that many endangered species still exist and thanks to the ignorant, that many species no longer exist. On the day Steve died, I bumped into a friend who does similar naturalist work and knows of his contribution to wildlife conservation - he was very sad to hear of Steve's accident and had nothing but praise for him. This same guy is accredited with the recovery of two almost extinct species, is a major contributor to National Geographic and has a allegedly handled more reptile species over the globe than anyone - he is qualified to give an opinion on Steve. RIP Steve - others will remember you. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat. Last edited by Webby; 09-05-2006 at 04:44 PM..

09-05-2006, 05:02 PM	#121
BARDIOC Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 72	I found this thread very useful. I've managed to add quite a few dumb-asses to my Ignore list: DarkJedi mikesouth mrthumbs jasonir L-Pink

09-05-2006, 05:03 PM	#122
niceanice Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 145	What could possibly go wrong???

09-05-2006, 05:38 PM	#128
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09-05-2006, 05:41 PM	#129
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	it's one thing to criticize his actions while he is alive, but the guy is dead. c'mon now...just let it go...lol... __________________ Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

09-05-2006, 06:00 PM	#134
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	It is true that he was always bugging the poor animals, but he was an enviromentalist, and one of the few who was actually doing something to try to save this planet... I think his death is a loss for the tree huggers. Granted, he made his money pissing off a bunch of animals, but he did not hurt them.

09-05-2006, 06:11 PM	#136
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	Btw, I tried accessing his site, www.crocodilehunter.com and it's slow, probably so many hits to it these days ... __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

09-05-2006, 06:11 PM	#137
imafuckingaussie Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the fucking outback Posts: 1,497	I dont think he "got what he deserved", he died doing what he loved, and knew the risks etc. and I am glad he died doing what he loves rather than being mugged or hit by a bus. He was a fantastic spokesman/ambasador for animals, the wild and Australia. He was more famous than any Australian actor etc. according to your press, and I he came across as such a very genuine and kind person. He loved animals, and wanted to protect them and stop whaling/killing/poaching etc. all over the world. He put all his money into this, all his millions were put into his wild life funds. He didnt live a rich and fancy lifestyle, the money didnt change him. Steve did some ridiculous things, was over the top, silly at times, and definitely a prankster at heart. But I thought he was awesome, a great aussie guy, a true entertainer, with a passion for what he loved doing that was unrivaled by anyone I've ever seen. Ive been to his zoo long before he was famous, and that zoo was his baby, its a great place, and anyone headed to aus should check it out in QLD, hopefuly it will live long after steves death. And those that argue that what he did was stupid, messing with dangerous animals, or agitating them etc. well I think the money he put into saving the worlds animals etc. and the positive press he gave animals/the wild and Australia, far outways the odd croc/snake/whatever that got pissed at steve poking them or holding them up for a few minutes. RIP Steve Irwin, what a legend you were mate . __________________ You can get it ploughing a paddock, you can get it makin some porn sites, matter of fact I've got it now. For a hard earned thrist, you need a big cold beer.

09-05-2006, 06:27 PM	#140
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	I wouldn't say he "deserved" it. That word is too strong. It's just no surprise because dealing with wild animals puts you in harms way. Wild animals are wild and may kill intentionally or unintentionally. I don't think that any man has the ability to communicate with the wild animals to safeguard himself. Personally I can understand the excitement that a guy like him would have. I love animals - wild animals. I've been forever curious about them. When you're curious you often get hurt.

09-05-2006, 06:31 PM	#141
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	Yo Mike ... if Steve's not allowed to get close to animals and simply stroke or pick up the animal ... and therefore should die .... Why the fuck do you rape horses in the middle of the night every night and keep getting away with it? ;) __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

09-05-2006, 06:32 PM	#142
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	He took risks doing what he loved to educate the masses about what many people consider the unknown parts of nature. His up close and personal approach helped researchers and environmentalists on many levels. He knew the risks but he didn't deserve to die anymore then the astronauts on the doomed shuttle mission. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

09-05-2006, 06:36 PM	#144
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	One other thing too ... his wife ran the zoo with him. She was also an outdoors person who got up close with crocs and other dangerous animals ... and you know what ... I suspect his son will too ... What you have to remember, is that while everyone around him is sad for the loss, they and I am pretty sure his wife is included, wont be saying he was a dumb fuck ... they'll praise him for all the good work he did... including all the conservationist work he did. He didn't just poke animals... he saved them too. __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!