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Old 09-07-2006, 05:27 PM   #151
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:32 PM   #152
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This thread is freaking funny! on so many levels.
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:33 PM   #153
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Cotac or what was it?
yes, cotac....Cotac made Al look for better traffic solutions than making deals with Serge


25% of his traffic disapeared overnight, so he had to create the first affiliate program ever.
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:37 PM   #154
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:51 PM   #155
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This is a genuine question, what programs do you guys think do 1000 new joins a day or more?


No spam please.. I don't spam other peoples threads... spam my thread and we'll pull our traffic from you or refuse to send to you in the future.
Hooper we both know that most programs doing that level will not be known by gfyers and will be by special invitation only.

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Old 09-07-2006, 05:59 PM   #156
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:24 PM   #157
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1000 joins a day (not counting rebils?)

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Old 09-07-2006, 07:05 PM   #158
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Back in 1999/2000 we were doing 5-6,000 sales per day when I was at CE. There was one other company in that neighborhood and it was MaxCash.

... and there were several after that too but times change

Although I'm not in anyone's financials - I'd be astonished if anyone was doing that today. The pie has been divided in so many different ways and there are a bunch of mid size companies doing a few hundred per day that have eaten away at marketshare ... however

1000+ definitely - there are more than a few

2000+ a couple maybe 3

5-6000? Of course i could be wrong but I'm doubting it.

This sounds about right. If I recall, Marc (previous owner of AdultRevneuService) said he did about 4500 joins/day during their best years.
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:52 AM   #159
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Hooper we both know that most programs doing that level will not be known by gfyers and will be by special invitation only.

;-)
None of those "special" per invite programs is doing numbers like that.
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:59 AM   #160
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1000 joins a day (not counting rebils?)


Silvercash = yes
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not counting possible mailers, there're tools which show quite clearly that TB is bigger than SC nowadays...
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not counting possible mailers, there're tools which show quite clearly that TB is bigger than SC nowadays...
Well my "tools" give a different opinion. I know they have members to reach that, but i don't have exact details to count how much is the retention and how much are actuall new joins, thus "possible". Same with deluxe, although i'd wage deluxe does less if the average retention is let's say, 3 months. Don't tell me you meant alexa?
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:24 AM   #162
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I like what Marc De said awhile back about joins per day.
"I'd rather do 1M per month net profit than do (X)thousand joins per day"

Of course nobody is going to post what their bottom line is, but that's what really matters.

I've already asked that question and it seems no one wants to answer.

Speaking in general, what percentage should a affiliate company make at the end of the day. Or what would be a good amount. Roughly, Generally, speaking. I am not asking someone to say we net 12.78% last year, etc... You guys have to know this, is anyone willing to share ? Would 10% be too low or is that good ? Do you need to Gross 3 million to put 300K in your pocket ?
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:27 AM   #163
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I don't have numbers from the companies so I prefer not to guess too much
To avoid being wrong 10 out 10 times like you.

if you firmly believe that big programs are doing around 60/day signups then you don't have a fucking clue!
This is the only thing I want to point out for you.

Now with my limited knowledge I would say it's fairly possible that programs make 1k+ signups a day.

and taken wiseguys stats in consideration it seems quickbuck is up there.
If someone believes that the entire company is only getting 60 joins per day that tells you a lot about how many sales they actually get.
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:39 AM   #164
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This is a very interesting thread. I'd say for sure there's more than 10 programmes doing 1K a day plus sales.

Pimproll
Topbucks
Nasty Dollars
Bang Bros
to name a few....

I'm sure hahaha is up there with the best of them as well, plus hahaha also owns Niched sites and Jason and Alex now.
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:45 AM   #165
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This sounds about right. If I recall, Marc (previous owner of AdultRevneuService) said he did about 4500 joins/day during their best years.

Marc's Ambush interview:
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At its peak how many sales was ARS pulling a day?

In its peak which lasted about 40 months ARS averaged 3500 sales

Btw are we talking $1 joins, free joins or full $25+ joins? Big difference!
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:54 AM   #166
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when i was at friend finder offices and staying with andrew in june i saw some daily number of what they do.

you'd all pretty much poop your pants.

they ARE the largest adult site on the net.

i'm saying too after reading and knowing what CE did in the day too.

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Old 09-08-2006, 08:58 AM   #167
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lol, probably true... if a program was willing to accept spam these days they could do 1000 joins a day overnight.
i know of one that did and they never cleared 1000 in a day, not even 500, i dont even think 250.
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Well 1000 on day is not big amount for major sponsor
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:42 AM   #169
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Big difference!
Not in this thread, its about joins. Of course its easier to get a $1 join than a $30 join, but thats not in question in this thread.


btw all the old big companies like ARS, maxcash, CE, etc...none of them had really huge well known sites. Sites from ND or bangbros have so much offline promo than any of the older programs ever had. Everyone is talking about them, even mainstream media is writing about them.
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we are an invite program
although we are taking more and more webmasters these days
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if you are an invite program, why did you link to your signup form?

Some webmasters might sneak in, you should patch that hole.
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:39 PM   #172
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if you are an invite program, why did you link to your signup form?

Some webmasters might sneak in, you should patch that hole.

as i said we are taking more now.
no one is just approved though...we like them to make contact so we can log the type of traffic and what they are going to promote etc
In the past when i promoted them it was strictly invite only
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:30 PM   #174
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You want to have at least 2 rebills for every new initial sale That should be the goal.

- $150 Fridays are back all Sept! Details at www.pimproll.com !

initial sale.. you mean trial or full join?
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Sites from ND or bangbros have so much offline promo than any of the older programs ever had. Everyone is talking about them, even mainstream media is writing about them.
Yet they are not half as big as people think they are...
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btw all the old big companies like ARS, maxcash, CE, etc...none of them had really huge well known sites.


Cybererotica.com and KarasXXX (KarasAdultPlayground) were TREMENDOUSLY well known sites without much offline publicity!

At it's peak Cybererotica had over 200,000 members

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Cybererotica.com and KarasXXX (KarasAdultPlayground) were TREMENDOUSLY well known sites without much offline publicity!
Yet not as famous as bangbus for example. At least in my opinion, I may be wrong.
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Yet not as famous as bangbus for example. At least in my opinion, I may be wrong.
Yet bigger at a time when there were less people online.

Fame ain't all it's cracked up to be, i guess
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Yet not as famous as bangbus for example. At least in my opinion, I may be wrong.
Tut, tut....you said they didn't have big well known sites. Kara's was getting over 1mil uniques a day in their peak.

And damn you J$tyle$ for beating me to the punch!
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Yet not as famous as bangbus for example. At least in my opinion, I may be wrong.
You're clueless...
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That would be rad !!!

I got one of my first checks from him on amateur hardcore 2 cents a click baby !!!!! The other one was Of course Ron Levi. Both to me are the Pioneers of the industry.
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No, you are.
I can backup my claims, you can't, since there is no program doing 6k/5k new joins a day, thus proving, you = clueless.
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That would be rad !!!

I got one of my first checks from him on amateur hardcore 2 cents a click baby !!!!! The other one was Of course Ron Levi. Both to me are the Pioneers of the industry.
Word up!

and shortly after ... 3 cent bounced checks from IEG

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back in 2000 is when this was filed
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/10/rjbtelcomcomplaint.htm

and this
"complaints were filed in U.S. District Court charging the operators of adult-oriented Web sites and their principals with cramming - billing consumers credit cards or phone bills for services they did not order or authorize. The FTC has asked the courts to shut down the adult sites and freeze the assets of two, pending trial. The agency will seek permanent injunctions and will seek to provide redress to thousands of consumers who have been billed without authorization."


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Back in 1999/2000 we were doing 5-6,000 sales per day when I was at CE. There was one other company in that neighborhood and it was MaxCash.
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you guys actling like a bunch of kids who just a saw a ferrari crossing the road and everyone are estimating how rich the driver is .

I doubt there is any program who gets even close to 1000 signups/day . more over , TCG does 50-60 joins per day and they are trully one of the biggest .

maybe 6-7 years ago when there weren't restriction to 'legal' lolita kind paysites there were few who made few hundreds signups per day .
I just had to respond to this. 50-60 a day?! Where do you get your obviously misguided information. I've been with TCG for over five years and I can assure you without getting into specific numbers, we far exceed 50-60 joins a day.
Look for a new source of information.
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I just had to respond to this. 50-60 a day?! Where do you get your obviously misguided information. I've been with TCG for over five years and I can assure you without getting into specific numbers, we far exceed 50-60 joins a day.
Look for a new source of information.

Amazing isn't it, lol
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I can guarantee you TCG does more than 50-60 per day from looking at my own stats.
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I'm happy when we break 200 in a day..

1000 maybe AFF thats about it.
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Why? Im Miami I was told by Paycom that we were in thier TOP 5. They told me this out by the pool in front of a whack of other people, so it's common knowledge now. BUT...That's on total volume processed.


The real question is how many rebills do you do a day.


I do admit before I was doing 1000+ joins a day I was always wondering, it's fun.

Now though my goal is to have the largest recurring database



I like pimproll sites, just wish I could convert with you guys

I feel like the only person around that can't convert pimproll sales..
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LOL, if you guys are doing 50 joins a day, I just may be, lol. Hard to imagine how you guys keep such a large staff off 50 joins!, lol.
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LOL, if you guys are doing 50 joins a day, I just may be, lol. Hard to imagine how you guys keep such a large staff off 50 joins!, lol.
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craig don't lie u guys do less then 60joins a day

hehehe whats up !!!
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Hey, I heard you and JMan might make it over here to Manila. Don't think about it, get your ass on a plane and get over here. It'll change your life! HAHAHA

I can't do it, 5 hours to Vancouver, 14 hours to Manilla, I'd go nuts on an aircraft waiting for 20 hours, lol. Although I hear people love it though. If it were closer, I'd so do it.
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:59 PM   #197
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btw, i thought you were back to AZ, are you back in manilla??
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Old 09-09-2006, 12:05 AM   #198
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btw, i thought you were back to AZ, are you back in manilla??
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I'm going back for a few weeks next month but I've been here for the most part since January. As far as the flying, yeah it's a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG ass flight but if you fly business or first, it's not as bad. You watch a few movies, pop an ambien or a lunesta (6 or so hours right there), eat two meals and you're there. My last trip back here, I flew from Florida to LA in the early AM, hung out with JB at our studio and worked a little in the afternoon and flew back over here that night. It was a long day but breaking it some up helped.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:21 AM   #199
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back in 2000 is when this was filed
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/10/rjbtelcomcomplaint.htm

and this
"complaints were filed in U.S. District Court charging the operators of adult-oriented Web sites and their principals with cramming - billing consumers credit cards or phone bills for services they did not order or authorize. The FTC has asked the courts to shut down the adult sites and freeze the assets of two, pending trial. The agency will seek permanent injunctions and will seek to provide redress to thousands of consumers who have been billed without authorization."
If only you knew the facts....I won't start because I wouldn't be able to quit. And yes, Venus, I know you've been around for a long time. I honestly applaud you for your success. Perhaps the first single girl site, no?
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:13 AM   #200
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I can backup my claims, you can't, since there is no program doing 6k/5k new joins a day, thus proving, you = clueless.
You can backup your claims? Where did I miss that? lol
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