teendolls payments SUPER late? - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 03-16-2008, 08:21 PM

I received a payment today which appears to cover the last 3 payments. I checked teendolls.com and according to payments.php the oldest of the 3 was supposedly sent on 19th April 2007.

I cannot find any record of the 3 "payments" in my epassporte account so the latest one does not appear to be a duplicate payment made in error.

Why are teendolls taking 11 months to send my $$$?

AdPatron · 03-16-2008, 08:35 PM

hmmmmmm Good question!

papill0n · 03-16-2008, 09:28 PM

Someone mentioned this to me earlier today. They claim to have sent no traffic for months, have no rebills and were still paid. The amount seemed to be a duplicate of their last payout.

Wonder whats going on.....

Iron Fist · 03-16-2008, 09:29 PM

Could be that NATS v4 they are beta testing.

Just sayin..

TMM_John · 03-16-2008, 09:38 PM

No. Some epass payments were delayed. (No one's fault but my own). Should not have been as far back as April tho and not related to the v4 testing. No affiliate traffic is going thru v4 yet. If anyone has any questions about payments please feel free to contact me or Rui directly.

rowan · 03-16-2008, 10:02 PM

No, let's not sidestep this, I'd rather the reasons be explained here, I've heard from 3 other webmasters now that this late payment problem seems to be typical, not a once-off glitch. Why can't teendolls pay on time?

TMM_John · 03-16-2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

No, let's not sidestep this, I'd rather the reasons be explained here, I've heard from 3 other webmasters now that this late payment problem seems to be typical, not a once-off glitch. Why can't teendolls pay on time?

As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault.

Christina Muller · 03-16-2008, 10:21 PM

PBucksJohn "As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault "

Well I think thats the most honest straightforward answer someone could make

Hope it all works out PBJ

rowan · 03-16-2008, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault.

And...? What happens now?

I'm not sure why you would think that affiliates would want to promote your sites when they know you won't pay on time. I'm pulling all my links as of now.

TMM_John · 03-16-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

And...? What happens now?

I'm not sure why you would think that affiliates would want to promote your sites when they know you won't pay on time. I'm pulling all my links as of now.

Of course, I fully understand that.

rowan · 03-16-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Of course, I fully understand that.

Wow, why do you even bother to be associated with this program? Sell it to someone who will look after it, and pay affiliates on time.

You don't seem bothered that I'm dropping my links - that's fine - but you neatly avoided the question about what happens going forward. That sends a pretty bad message to your affiliates.

I get the feeling this is a bit of a toy program, a testbed for NATS and keeping up with the paysite industry (as you would be expected if you were supporting it through software). The stats have said "* = Rebill & Credit counts will be shown soon. Your payout currently reflects all rebills & credits." for the 2 1/2 years I've been an affiliate. I guess you don't care.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to get worked up about this... but your flippant response has pissed me right off.

TMM_John · 03-16-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Wow, why do you even bother to be associated with this program? Sell it to someone who will look after it, and pay affiliates on time.

You don't seem bothered that I'm dropping my links - that's fine - but you neatly avoided the question about what happens going forward. That sends a pretty bad message to your affiliates.

I get the feeling this is a bit of a toy program, a testbed for NATS and keeping up with the paysite industry (as you would be expected if you were supporting it through software). The stats have said "* = Rebill & Credit counts will be shown soon. Your payout currently reflects all rebills & credits." for the 2 1/2 years I've been an affiliate. I guess you don't care.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to get worked up about this... but your flippant response has pissed me right off.

My saying its no ones fault but my own is a flippant response?

Payments will be normal going forward.

As I've said, I've got a lot going on and TeenDolls wound up being what took the brunt of my having too much on my plate. I'm sorry for that.

You are correct in that Teen Dolls exists in part to be a test bed for NATS. Its being small and not generating much of my income is probably part of the reason why it has suffered. Thats no excuse for it, just trying to be honest about it.

Of course I don't like that you're dropping your links. However, you have a right to be angry about it and I was simply saying I understand the reaction.

I don't know what else to tell you.

Vox · 03-16-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

No. Some epass payments were delayed. (No one's fault but my own). Should not have been as far back as April tho and not related to the v4 testing. No affiliate traffic is going thru v4 yet. If anyone has any questions about payments please feel free to contact me or Rui directly.

Oh really? I've sent emails to Rui and I even cc'd one to you, but yet have not received any response about payments.

You still haven't paid for 2006/2007

TMM_John · 03-16-2008, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vox

Oh really? I've sent emails to Rui and I even cc'd one to you, but yet have not received any response about payments.

You still haven't paid for 2006/2007

There are still accounts being caught up as I am limited by epass's daily limits.

I don't see any way a payment can be due from 2006 unless you have recently hit the minimum. I'm not aware of anyone Rui knows of who has emailed him. I ICQ'd you just now but didn't get a reply back and I can not find any accounts in the system with your ICQ number. Please ICQ me back at 5596373.

Vox · 03-17-2008, 12:26 AM

Alright, my bad for the 2006 comments... I should of opened my books and seen that payments were received in a timely manner.

John is taking care of the rest for me this week.

A little icq conversation goes a long way.

Thanks John.

Caffiend · 05-26-2008, 10:27 PM

Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?

TMM_John · 05-26-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caffiend

Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?

E-Mail me any questions at [email protected] please, or icq 5596373, the TD email is not the best contact. Thanks.

rowan · 05-27-2008, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caffiend

Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?

I emailed Rui before I started this thread, sent 2 reminders, still waiting for a reply.

I don't know if there's a technical problem or he's just ignoring them for some reason. I've never had a reply to any email I've sent to teendolls support, apart from PBucksJohn when I started "pre-emptive hunting" and sent copies to root@ webmaster@ etc

Rui · 05-27-2008, 04:10 AM

Like John said mail WASN'T the best way to approach us, nevertheless my ICQ number is listed all over the place, a message would have helped me sort any problems you had/have.

Just for future reference - 85-483-060

Regards

Edit - A no, nobody was ignoring you, why should we do that?

SlamDesigns · 05-29-2008, 09:31 AM

Hey John and Rui...just wanted to give you a heads up that I just sent an e-mail to both of you also. Please be on the look out for one from "slamdesigns.com". Thanks!

SlamDesigns · 05-30-2008, 08:34 AM

Hey Rui,

Just sent a follow up to the first e-mail. Just wanted to let you know so you could be on the look-out for it as well. Thanks!

rowan · 05-31-2008, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Like John said mail WASN'T the best way to approach us, nevertheless my ICQ number is listed all over the place, a message would have helped me sort any problems you had/have.

I don't understand why you have email contact addresses listed for support if they don't work.

Rui · 05-31-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlamDesigns

Hey Rui,

Just sent a follow up to the first e-mail. Just wanted to let you know so you could be on the look-out for it as well. Thanks!

It has been sorted yesterday mate, check your paypal

digifan · 05-31-2008, 01:53 PM

Paypal? You said paypal? Interesting.

commonsense · 05-31-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by digifan

Paypal? You said paypal? Interesting.

Plenty of people still use paypal for a number of things, and no mention as to whether it was adult orientated or not. Reaching for drama eh?

potter · 05-31-2008, 06:43 PM

things that make you go hmmm

AlexGree · 07-07-2008, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Payments will be normal going forward.

My affiliate id in teendolls is "simplebmg"
I didn't get any payout from you since February.
But now I see a payout in my payment history in affiliate area. But I can't find this one in my epassporte statement.

I can't get a response to any of the emails and icq messages I've sent. Can you provide the detailed information about this payout (amount, date and epassporte account you paid from)

if you paid...

TMM_John · 07-07-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexGree

My affiliate id in teendolls is "simplebmg"
I didn't get any payout from you since February.
But now I see a payout in my payment history in affiliate area. But I can't find this one in my epassporte statement.

I can't get a response to any of the emails and icq messages I've sent. Can you provide the detailed information about this payout (amount, date and epassporte account you paid from)

if you paid...

Please ICQ me, 5596373, I'm not sure who you ICQ'd but I reply to them all. Also, the program is hopefully going to change hands within the next few weeks or so as I obviously don't have the time to run it properly

AlexGree · 07-10-2008, 07:12 PM

I sent few messages to you via ICQ, but don't get a response. Rui has been contacted with me after my previous post here. He promised sent the payout today.

Two days left...

and i still waiting...

cybermike · 07-10-2008, 08:20 PM

so whos taking over the site?

AlexGree · 07-10-2008, 11:50 PM

I hope John will not forget about debts after teendolls changed hands...

but now situation is not seems good for me...

all pending payments in my payment history in affiliate area was updated to "paid", but nothing was paid actually... the promises only

Caffiend · 07-12-2008, 12:28 AM

AlexGree, the same thing happened to me. Payments changed to 'paid', but no money received. No luck chasing anyone down on ICQ, either. Do only the big fish get dealt with now?

Bravo · 08-26-2008, 08:11 AM

hey John! teendolls owe me money for 3 or 4 accounts
please read your email

thanks!

HorseShit · 08-26-2008, 08:18 AM

another one bites the dust

jscott · 08-26-2008, 08:22 AM

Anything the affiliates should know? or is everything going to be smooth sailing from here on out?

rowan · 09-06-2008, 12:33 AM

Searched for this thread to clarify something and was concerned to see there's been further payment probs.

Bump for answers

Manowar · 10-12-2008, 08:22 AM

I've noted this problem now., anyone got contact info for Rui?

Manowar · 10-12-2008, 08:43 AM

Edit: Found them up the thread a bit, hope I can get this sorted ASAP

TMM_John · 10-12-2008, 08:45 AM

E-mail me directly at albright\toomuchmedia\com

Thanks.

rowan · 10-12-2008, 09:00 AM

I'm showing an entry for 2008-09-16 saying "pending" and "not yet paid." It's above the minimum, yet it's now nearly a month later. This is really shabby.

Bravo · 11-23-2008, 02:16 AM

hey Jon, stop this bulshit! i have 20 emails from you with questions and promises to pay and still no payments

this is 100% bulshit for affiliate program!!!!!!!!!! not professional and not serious ;(

Chef86 · 11-23-2008, 05:56 AM

John why not hire a couple extra people rather than sell off the program. You obviously have enough affiliates to earn a decent incom just maybe not enough man power to run the program with just two people. A lot of other programs around the same size as you usually have 2-3 affiliate managers, the owner and an accountant. Note: I did not say ALL programs I said " a lot " meaning not all but many for anyone that decides to say a smart ass response lol.

HorseShit · 11-23-2008, 06:51 AM

get your money from them and say fuck it at this point

rowan · 11-23-2008, 10:46 PM

So what does this mean exactly?

Outstanding
Not Yet Stored
Not Yet Paid
$25.44
Not Yet Set
List Payments

Pending
2008-09-16
Not Yet Paid
$100.76
ePassporte
List Payments

From what I can see the $100.76 payment is more than 2 months overdue. There have been some rebills since (I pulled all my links months ago) but they're not paid for either. WTF is going on?

Bravo · 11-24-2008, 01:58 PM

grrrrr.....

TMM_John · 11-24-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextm

grrrrr.....

Alex, I know its been a while, but I haven't received a reply to my last few emails. You can reach me on icq, 5596373, or phone, 732-385-1536 x1111.

Thanks

TMM_John · 11-24-2008, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chef86

John why not hire a couple extra people rather than sell off the program. You obviously have enough affiliates to earn a decent incom just maybe not enough man power to run the program with just two people. A lot of other programs around the same size as you usually have 2-3 affiliate managers, the owner and an accountant. Note: I did not say ALL programs I said " a lot " meaning not all but many for anyone that decides to say a smart ass response lol.

I would agree, but the program is very very small. For some reason people think its bigger.

rowan · 11-25-2008, 05:08 AM

So John, I say John, John (imagine Matrix in Commando taunting Arnie)

When are you going to address the non payment issues?

HorseShit · 11-25-2008, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

I would agree, but the program is very very small. For some reason people think its bigger.

How about you sell me the complete program?

Caffiend · 11-29-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

So what does this mean exactly?

Outstanding
Not Yet Stored
Not Yet Paid
$25.44
Not Yet Set
List Payments

Pending
2008-09-16
Not Yet Paid
$100.76
ePassporte
List Payments

From what I can see the $100.76 payment is more than 2 months overdue. There have been some rebills since (I pulled all my links months ago) but they're not paid for either. WTF is going on?

Similar problem on my end - a payment that claims it was sent but never showed up in my ePassporte account. Its been months, so I doubt it'll ever get resolved for me.

03-16-2008, 08:21 PM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	teendolls payments SUPER late? I received a payment today which appears to cover the last 3 payments. I checked teendolls.com and according to payments.php the oldest of the 3 was supposedly sent on 19th April 2007. I cannot find any record of the 3 "payments" in my epassporte account so the latest one does not appear to be a duplicate payment made in error. Why are teendolls taking 11 months to send my $$$?

03-16-2008, 09:29 PM	#4
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Could be that NATS v4 they are beta testing. Just sayin.. __________________ i like waffles

03-16-2008, 09:38 PM	#5
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,660	No. Some epass payments were delayed. (No one's fault but my own). Should not have been as far back as April tho and not related to the v4 testing. No affiliate traffic is going thru v4 yet. If anyone has any questions about payments please feel free to contact me or Rui directly. __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

03-16-2008, 10:21 PM	#8
Christina Muller Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada/Germany Posts: 923	PBucksJohn "As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault " Well I think thats the most honest straightforward answer someone could make Hope it all works out PBJ __________________ Promote A Brand Your Surfer Trusts Playboy No Upsell - No X Sales - No Bullshit !

03-17-2008, 12:26 AM	#15
Vox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,710	Alright, my bad for the 2006 comments... I should of opened my books and seen that payments were received in a timely manner. John is taking care of the rest for me this week. A little icq conversation goes a long way. Thanks John. __________________ Social profile assassination for hire

03-16-2008, 08:35 PM	#2
AdPatron No commissions, no fees. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 17,706	hmmmmmm Good question!

03-16-2008, 09:28 PM	#3
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	Someone mentioned this to me earlier today. They claim to have sent no traffic for months, have no rebills and were still paid. The amount seemed to be a duplicate of their last payout. Wonder whats going on.....

03-16-2008, 10:02 PM	#6
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	No, let's not sidestep this, I'd rather the reasons be explained here, I've heard from 3 other webmasters now that this late payment problem seems to be typical, not a once-off glitch. Why can't teendolls pay on time?

05-26-2008, 10:27 PM	#16
Caffiend Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 455	Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share? __________________ ->__<-

05-27-2008, 04:10 AM	#19
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Like John said mail WASN'T the best way to approach us, nevertheless my ICQ number is listed all over the place, a message would have helped me sort any problems you had/have. Just for future reference - 85-483-060 Regards Edit - A no, nobody was ignoring you, why should we do that? Last edited by Rui; 05-27-2008 at 04:12 AM..

05-29-2008, 09:31 AM	#20
SlamDesigns Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,339	Hey John and Rui...just wanted to give you a heads up that I just sent an e-mail to both of you also. Please be on the look out for one from "slamdesigns.com". Thanks!

05-30-2008, 08:34 AM	#21
SlamDesigns Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,339	Hey Rui, Just sent a follow up to the first e-mail. Just wanted to let you know so you could be on the look-out for it as well. Thanks!

05-31-2008, 01:53 PM	#24
digifan The Profiler Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ 76281726 and I'm female Posts: 14,618	Paypal? You said paypal? Interesting. __________________ [email protected] Webair Rocks

05-31-2008, 06:43 PM	#26
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	things that make you go hmmm __________________

07-10-2008, 07:12 PM	#29
AlexGree Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11	I sent few messages to you via ICQ, but don't get a response. Rui has been contacted with me after my previous post here. He promised sent the payout today. Two days left... and i still waiting...

07-10-2008, 08:20 PM	#30
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,112	so whos taking over the site? __________________ Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

07-10-2008, 11:50 PM	#31
AlexGree Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11	I hope John will not forget about debts after teendolls changed hands... but now situation is not seems good for me... all pending payments in my payment history in affiliate area was updated to "paid", but nothing was paid actually... the promises only

07-12-2008, 12:28 AM	#32
Caffiend Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 455	AlexGree, the same thing happened to me. Payments changed to 'paid', but no money received. No luck chasing anyone down on ICQ, either. Do only the big fish get dealt with now? __________________ ->__<-

08-26-2008, 08:11 AM	#33
Bravo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Internet Posts: 393	hey John! teendolls owe me money for 3 or 4 accounts please read your email thanks! __________________

08-26-2008, 08:18 AM	#34
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	another one bites the dust

08-26-2008, 08:22 AM	#35
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Anything the affiliates should know? or is everything going to be smooth sailing from here on out?

09-06-2008, 12:33 AM	#36
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Searched for this thread to clarify something and was concerned to see there's been further payment probs. Bump for answers

10-12-2008, 08:22 AM	#37
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	I've noted this problem now., anyone got contact info for Rui?

10-12-2008, 08:43 AM	#38
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Edit: Found them up the thread a bit, hope I can get this sorted ASAP

10-12-2008, 08:45 AM	#39
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,660	E-mail me directly at albright\toomuchmedia\com Thanks. __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

10-12-2008, 09:00 AM	#40
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I'm showing an entry for 2008-09-16 saying "pending" and "not yet paid." It's above the minimum, yet it's now nearly a month later. This is really shabby.

11-23-2008, 02:16 AM	#41
Bravo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Internet Posts: 393	hey Jon, stop this bulshit! i have 20 emails from you with questions and promises to pay and still no payments this is 100% bulshit for affiliate program!!!!!!!!!! not professional and not serious ;( __________________

11-23-2008, 05:56 AM	#42
Chef86 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,930	John why not hire a couple extra people rather than sell off the program. You obviously have enough affiliates to earn a decent incom just maybe not enough man power to run the program with just two people. A lot of other programs around the same size as you usually have 2-3 affiliate managers, the owner and an accountant. Note: I did not say ALL programs I said " a lot " meaning not all but many for anyone that decides to say a smart ass response lol. __________________ I have my sites hosted with Phat Servers why don't you? ICQ: 541885

11-23-2008, 06:51 AM	#43
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	get your money from them and say fuck it at this point

11-23-2008, 10:46 PM	#44
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	So what does this mean exactly? Outstanding Not Yet Stored Not Yet Paid $25.44 Not Yet Set List Payments Pending 2008-09-16 Not Yet Paid $100.76 ePassporte List Payments From what I can see the $100.76 payment is more than 2 months overdue. There have been some rebills since (I pulled all my links months ago) but they're not paid for either. WTF is going on?

11-24-2008, 01:58 PM	#45
Bravo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Internet Posts: 393	grrrrr..... __________________

11-25-2008, 05:08 AM	#48
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	So John, I say John, John (imagine Matrix in Commando taunting Arnie) When are you going to address the non payment issues?