Paysite owner opens the books (ratios) - GoFuckYourself.com

Boobzooka · 07-06-2008, 11:51 AM

While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

Shap · 07-06-2008, 12:07 PM

Congrats. Great numbers.

Is that for darering or sellyoursextape or both?

payd2purv · 07-06-2008, 12:12 PM

When you own GREAT paysites and not link farms you definitely have an advantage...

commonsense · 07-06-2008, 12:14 PM

Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats

silver · 07-06-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats

+1

Ditto

fuzebox · 07-06-2008, 12:17 PM

Are some of those affiliates linking to FHG's through the affiliate link? Some of the traffic numbers + ratios are pretty high...

As for me I'm 1:644 with one sale for sellyoursextape

john_63 · 07-06-2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Congrats. Great numbers.

Is that for darering or sellyoursextape or both?

Bossman · 07-06-2008, 12:19 PM

I acutal tried non-recurring on one of our sites after reading one of your post/threads about how well you did with it... didn´t work well for us, but it was interesting to try

Congrats on your sites - while many people treat this business as a cookiecutter business, then it can pay to be different

Robbie · 07-06-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv

When you own GREAT paysites and not link farms you definitely have an advantage...

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

marketsmart · 07-06-2008, 12:21 PM

i would venture to say that your stats are better thasn most these days because you really have a nice niche... but, like was said earlier, why post stats.. you want 20 copycat sites up by tomorrow...

stickyfingerz · 07-06-2008, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Its hidden between Claudia's boobs I think hehe.

d-null · 07-06-2008, 12:28 PM

nice stats and best of luck with your program

payd2purv · 07-06-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Sorry I read the post wrong.

I thought that was sales he was making from his members area traffic..

V_RocKs · 07-06-2008, 12:35 PM

I smoke crack rocks.

notoldschool · 07-06-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

There are paysites that are link farms. You sign up and they have links to everywhere but good content. He could also be talking about paysites that are just a collection of feed links.

john_63 · 07-06-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv

Sorry I read the post wrong.

I thought that was sales he was making from his member's area traffic..

5000+ sales from his members area traffic?

notoldschool · 07-06-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv

Sorry I read the post wrong.

I thought that was sales he was making from his members area traffic..

I guess I was wrong then.

Dirty F · 07-06-2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Ignore him. Hes in every fucking thread throwing in his 2 cents acting as if he knows how everything works.

payd2purv · 07-06-2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_63

5000+ sales from his members area traffic?

Yahhh that's not very likely...

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

I guess I was wrong then.

Well that's what I thought the O.P was talking about because it's webmasters that own shitty linkfarms and blogs that are complaining about lack of sales..

Boobzooka · 07-06-2008, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

i would venture to say that your stats are better thasn most these days because you really have a nice niche... but, like was said earlier, why post stats.. you want 20 copycat sites up by tomorrow...

Yeah

good luck with that. I wouldn't mind some matching sites to upsell to...

btw - I'm still paying $1000 per couple referral bonus. I need more submissions!

payd2purv · 07-06-2008, 12:45 PM

MarketSmart has a point.

Quality amateur style content...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Ignore him. Hes in every fucking thread throwing in his 2 cents acting as if he knows how everything works.

I do know how everything works. You see all this? YOU SEE ALL THIS?!!?

THATS ALL ME BABY!!

MONEY BABY MONEY!!

tiger · 07-06-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats

That's funny, I'm signing up as we speak.

Pornopat · 07-06-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

I think there is an error somewhere in there cause I dont see myself back in those stats.
What is the exact timeframe?
1440891 should be in there. My ratios is less better as the others in the stats. I am not complaining though.
Total amount of sales 637 with a ratio of 1:440
Last two weeks : 23 sales with a ratio of 1:509

Looks weird to me...still...I am not complaining!

Jim_Gunn · 07-06-2008, 05:06 PM

What time period do each of those horizontal rows represent? A new day, a new week or a new month or what?

AaronM · 07-06-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

Yeah

good luck with that. I wouldn't mind some matching sites to upsell to...

So you don't mind competition but on the multiple times that I have tried to contact you for model trades, to help you where your 2257 was not legit, and to send you traffic...You ignored me each and every time.

Interesting.....

Boobzooka · 07-06-2008, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

So you don't mind competition but on the multiple times that I have tried to contact you for model trades, to help you where your 2257 was not legit, and to send you traffic...You ignored me each and every time.

Interesting.....

I'm sorry, but I have not seen any of this stuff, and I'm at my computer all day long answering emails, so I'm at a loss to explain why yours alone would not be reaching me. Please try to hit both [email protected] and [email protected] and we'll see what happens. If you don't hear back from me, come back to this thread. Thanks.

AaronM · 07-06-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DareRing

I'm sorry, but I have not seen any of this stuff, and I'm at my computer all day long answering emails, so I'm at a loss to explain why yours alone would not be reaching me. Please try to hit both [email protected] and [email protected] and we'll see what happens. If you don't hear back from me, come back to this thread. Thanks.

Well, I can't speak for the emails but at least 2 of the times were here on GFY.

And how is it you know that my messages alone are not reaching you? If you're not getting them, you would not know it therefore it kinda seems a bit assumptive to state that only mine are not being received.

Boobzooka · 07-06-2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat

I think there is an error somewhere in there cause I dont see myself back in those stats.
What is the exact timeframe?
1440891 should be in there. My ratios is less better as the others in the stats. I am not complaining though.
Total amount of sales 637 with a ratio of 1:440
Last two weeks : 23 sales with a ratio of 1:509

Looks weird to me...still...I am not complaining!

I picked a random (recent) time frame and cut out affiliate ID#s for privacy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

What time period do each of those horizontal rows represent? A new day, a new week or a new month or what?

I didn't give the exact time frame because that would be revealing too much info about a private business on a public message board. I'm a paysite owner showing affiliates what they could expect if they were promoting my sites, not bragging about my personal income.

But I'm glad I'm getting such a positive response to the overall ratios. I suspected we were doing better than average but, this being GFY, I figured whatever stats I posted would be shit on.

AaronM · 07-06-2008, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

I picked a random (recent) time frame and cut out affiliate ID#s for privacy.

I didn't give the exact time frame because that would be revealing too much info about a private business on a public message board. I'm a paysite owner showing affiliates what they could expect if they were promoting my sites, not bragging about my personal income.

But I'm glad I'm getting such a positive response to the overall ratios. I suspected we were doing better than average but, this being GFY, I figured whatever stats I posted would be shit on.

For the record...I love your sites and marketing. I think you've got a great niche and handle it very well.

silver · 07-06-2008, 06:07 PM

Curiosity has sparked me..
Is there a ref code to send traffic to your sextape site without having to send the surfer through that Warning Page?

Agent 488 · 07-06-2008, 06:08 PM

great looking sites. forgot about these.

Iron Fist · 07-06-2008, 06:10 PM

So theres an affiliate out there who sent you 11 million raw in this timeframe? Holy crap... makes me feel like small potatoes when I see numbers like that!

Boobzooka · 07-06-2008, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Well, I can't speak for the emails but at least 2 of the times were here on GFY.

And how is it you know that my messages alone are not reaching you? If you're not getting them, you would not know it therefore it kinda seems a bit assumptive to state that only mine are not being received.

I wasn't trying to be a dick. I'm just saying I have to do support all day long dealing with emails from dumbasses all over the world, so I don't know why ones from Portland wouldn't be delivered.

I do now vaguely recall emailing you a very long time ago after some GFY post, but I don't think I ever heard back, and I don't think you were specific on the boards about what you wanted from me. It was ages ago, and I don't post here much, except to spam occasionally, then make other posts while I'm waiting for replies, so that I don't look like such a spammer.

Did you try those addresses yet? When you publicly say something as serious as "2257 not legit" I hope you will contact me to explain what you mean. My records are mindnumbingly organized.

Boobzooka · 07-06-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver

Curiosity has sparked me..
Is there a ref code to send traffic to your sextape site without having to send the surfer through that Warning Page?

With CCBill, you can send to any page you want, if the webmaster allows it in his admin. I do.

To offer Recurring and Non-Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic....com/tour.html

To offer only Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...m/preview.html

silver · 07-06-2008, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

With CCBill, you can send to any page you want, if the webmaster allows it in his admin. I do.

To offer Recurring and Non-Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic....com/tour.html

To offer only Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...m/preview.html

Thanks!
I will give your sites a shot!

xxxdesign-net · 07-06-2008, 07:54 PM

why stop the update on Darering? I had a bunch of rebilling customers...

AaronM · 07-06-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

I wasn't trying to be a dick. I'm just saying I have to do support all day long dealing with emails from dumbasses all over the world, so I don't know why ones from Portland wouldn't be delivered.

I do now vaguely recall emailing you a very long time ago after some GFY post, but I don't think I ever heard back, and I don't think you were specific on the boards about what you wanted from me. It was ages ago, and I don't post here much, except to spam occasionally, then make other posts while I'm waiting for replies, so that I don't look like such a spammer.

Did you try those addresses yet? When you publicly say something as serious as "2257 not legit" I hope you will contact me to explain what you mean. My records are mindnumbingly organized.

No, I didn't try emailing you. I wanted to talk with you about those things months ago, not today.

Your records may be well organized but that doesn't make your site compliant. My guess is that you are not using an attorney who specializes in adult.

You may want to contact J.D. Obenberger over at xxxlaw.com and ask him for a consultation.

Boobzooka · 07-06-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

No, I didn't try emailing you. I wanted to talk with you about those things months ago, not today.:

So why did you bring it up today?

You make an ambiguous accusation in a thread about my business, that you know could easily be misinterpreted as something dangerous, and then act all nonchalant like it was me that started this conversation by calling you at home during dinner.

Look, I'm sorry I missed your email, or you missed mine, months ago. It sounds like you were just trying to be helpful, or make us both more money, and that's appreciated. Whatever the reason for the miscommunication, it wasn't an intentional snub, so no need for board drama. If you still know models interested in the SYST project, I have endless commissions to offer. If you have traffic that would benefit you more by sending it to my sites instead of another site, common sense says push it. If you have further sensitive concerns, contact me privately.

jimmy-3-way · 07-06-2008, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

So why did you bring it up today?

You make an ambiguous accusation in a thread about my business, that you know could easily be misinterpreted as something dangerous, and then act all nonchalant like it was me that started this conversation by calling you at home during dinner.

Look, I'm sorry I missed your email, or you missed mine, months ago. It sounds like you were just trying to be helpful, or make us both more money, and that's appreciated. Whatever the reason for the miscommunication, it wasn't an intentional snub, so no need for board drama. If you still know models interested in the SYST project, I have endless commissions to offer. If you have traffic that would benefit you more by sending it to my sites instead of another site, common sense says push it. If you have further sensitive concerns, contact me privately.

I'm sorry -- that's way too diplomatic and reasonable for GFY. You should add a mean comment about how you could buy and sell Aaron or possibly criticize his photography or facial hair.

I see you don't post much so I can understand why you don't know the ropes.

seeric · 07-06-2008, 10:31 PM

no doubt in my mind that this niche would convert the way it does.

datatank · 07-06-2008, 10:31 PM

wow just checked alexa. I had no idea sellYST was doing so well. Congrats you put out killer sites and do a great job. You deserve it

Pornwolf · 07-06-2008, 10:44 PM

If I didn't check this thread I would have thought it was a domain owned by KB.

baddog · 07-06-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

He is a sig whore that thinks he has figured out what is happening. Pay him no mind, he is one of those you rant about.

baddog · 07-06-2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv

Yahhh that's not very likely...

Well that's what I thought the O.P was talking about because it's webmasters that own shitty linkfarms and blogs that are complaining about lack of sales..

Just admit you are a wannabe that doesn't know shit.

Boobzooka · 07-07-2008, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

wow just checked alexa. I had no idea sellYST was doing so well. Congrats you put out killer sites and do a great job. You deserve it

I was amazed when I did the same thing. First comparing sellyoursextape.com to darering.com, and then suicidegirls.com, and ftvgirls.com, and every other "name" adult site I could think of, you know, just to compare e-peen sizes.

It's incredibly fun to watch something you've created reach out to so many people across the whole planet. Unbelievable.

seeric · 07-07-2008, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

I was amazed when I did the same thing. First comparing sellyoursextape.com to darering.com, and then suicidegirls.com, and ftvgirls.com, and every other "name" adult site I could think of, you know, just to compare e-peen sizes.

It's incredibly fun to watch something you've created reach out to so many people across the whole planet. Unbelievable.

just did the same. congrats to you.

Due · 07-07-2008, 01:37 AM

Good job, and very nice ratio's as well

Paul Markham · 07-07-2008, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats

Lot's of porn is copied.

We had some guy contact us to copy the Truth or Dare site. He has joined as a member and sent us some clips and asked us the price. When we told him the price he freaked and disappeared. This also happened on a few other sites. they keep thinking this level can be shot by anyone for next to nothing.

Well done DareRing you're proving that good porns sells in a market where so many with crap porn are getting out.

Barefootsies · 07-07-2008, 07:11 AM

Good ratios buddy. Congrats. Welcome to the club.

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-07-2008, 07:43 AM

I was wondering why is there such a form click ratio then I see you're linking directly to the ccbill form from your join links.

Well this niche will always do well I suppose, nothing like sex between people who actually want to have sex with each other.

Congrats!

07-06-2008, 11:51 AM	#1
Boobzooka Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BOOBZOOKA.COM Posts: 626	Paysite owner opens the books (ratios) While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly. For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks. Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off. These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com __________________ BOOBZOOKA: Amateur Affiliate Program featuring SellYourSexTape: Real couples document their lovelife for one week. HerBedroomWindow: Girls recording themselves alone at home. \| DareRing: "Truth Or Dare?" themed adult party games.

07-06-2008, 12:12 PM	#3
payd2purv Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,727	When you own GREAT paysites and not link farms you definitely have an advantage... __________________

07-06-2008, 12:19 PM	#8
Bossman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: EU Posts: 1,263	I acutal tried non-recurring on one of our sites after reading one of your post/threads about how well you did with it... didn´t work well for us, but it was interesting to try Congrats on your sites - while many people treat this business as a cookiecutter business, then it can pay to be different __________________ Live Sex Buying membership sites E-mail: support AT epcrew.com

07-06-2008, 12:28 PM	#12
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	nice stats and best of luck with your program __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

07-06-2008, 10:44 PM	#42
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	If I didn't check this thread I would have thought it was a domain owned by KB. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

07-06-2008, 12:07 PM	#2
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Congrats. Great numbers. Is that for darering or sellyoursextape or both?

07-06-2008, 12:14 PM	#4
commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats

07-06-2008, 12:17 PM	#6
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,102	Are some of those affiliates linking to FHG's through the affiliate link? Some of the traffic numbers + ratios are pretty high... As for me I'm 1:644 with one sale for sellyoursextape

07-06-2008, 12:21 PM	#10
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	i would venture to say that your stats are better thasn most these days because you really have a nice niche... but, like was said earlier, why post stats.. you want 20 copycat sites up by tomorrow...

07-06-2008, 12:35 PM	#14
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I smoke crack rocks.

07-06-2008, 05:06 PM	#24
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	What time period do each of those horizontal rows represent? A new day, a new week or a new month or what?

07-06-2008, 06:07 PM	#30
silver Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,078	Curiosity has sparked me.. Is there a ref code to send traffic to your sextape site without having to send the surfer through that Warning Page?

07-06-2008, 06:08 PM	#31
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	great looking sites. forgot about these.

07-06-2008, 06:10 PM	#32
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	So theres an affiliate out there who sent you 11 million raw in this timeframe? Holy crap... makes me feel like small potatoes when I see numbers like that!

07-06-2008, 07:54 PM	#36
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	why stop the update on Darering? I had a bunch of rebilling customers...

07-06-2008, 10:31 PM	#40
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	no doubt in my mind that this niche would convert the way it does.

07-06-2008, 10:31 PM	#41
datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	wow just checked alexa. I had no idea sellYST was doing so well. Congrats you put out killer sites and do a great job. You deserve it

07-07-2008, 01:37 AM	#47
Due Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 3,620	Good job, and very nice ratio's as well __________________ I buy plugs Skype: Due_Global /Due

07-07-2008, 07:11 AM	#49
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Good ratios buddy. Congrats. Welcome to the club. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

07-07-2008, 07:43 AM	#50
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,512	I was wondering why is there such a form click ratio then I see you're linking directly to the ccbill form from your join links. Well this niche will always do well I suppose, nothing like sex between people who actually want to have sex with each other. Congrats! __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year? Last edited by CarlosTheGaucho; 07-07-2008 at 07:44 AM..