Paysite owner opens the books (ratios) - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 07-07-2008, 08:47 AM

1 in 50 ratio!

AK · 07-07-2008, 09:34 AM

nice stats!

1BB · 07-07-2008, 10:59 AM

Nice stats man!

Cherry7 · 07-07-2008, 03:23 PM

From our experience it confirms our thoughts to say that racios have NO meaning as it goes from
1:17606 to 1/46 ...

That targeted quality traffic converts well (from good review sites) and poor traffic ...from galleries and link farms poorly....

Does the millions of non productive hits give you advantages in site rankings and search engines hits ? or is it just a waste of band width?

gleem · 07-07-2008, 05:15 PM

wow nice stats, can I borrow a couple of those affiliates?

xxxdesign-net · 07-07-2008, 05:21 PM

Maybe you missed my post... why no more updates on Darering?

Boobzooka · 07-07-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

Maybe you missed my post... why no more updates on Darering?

I couldn't produce games fast enough to chase rebills.

We live in a small town (Eugene, Oregon) and it took a couple years just to get the games we have up now, even reusing a lot of the same players in different games. There was no way I could do weekly, or even monthly, updates. No matter where I advertised or how much I offered.

Combine that with the fact that for some reason on that site selling non-recurring billing resulted in 200% more signups ... it just wasn't cost-effective to keep trying. It's passed the point that adding new games to the tour doesn't increase conversions. It's making more now than ever, despite no updates in over a year.

I cannot understate the difficulty of trying to organize one of these events. I'd run ads in every local paper and post on craigslist. I'd field dozens of calls and emails everyday, not to mention the drunks in the middle of the night. We also offered referral bonuses to try and get people taking to their friends about it.

Of those who agreed to meet for an interview, only a few actually show up. My wife and I would spend hours each week sitting alone at restaurants or coffee shops waiting for people who don't have the courtesy to tell us they've changed their minds ... Then when I call them to find out why, it always turns out their car broke down or they got in an accident. If this were true, then we must be cursed and if you agree to meet us you have approximately a 50/50 chance of crashing on the way there. I'd try to schedule several interviews at the same time, just hoping to meet someone, anyone.

Assuming somebody does show up, and they're not obviously on meth (another big eliminator and waste of time), then we get the paperwork signed and copys of IDs etc and try to work out when they'll be available to play.

Getting six peoples schedules to match is a near impossibility. If only they didn't have to work, go out of town, have concert tickets, etc ... and money isn't as big of a motivator as you'd think it would be.

Here's the really shitty part. After all this, after I've got all the players confirmed and re-confirmed, it's game-night and we've decorated and we're supposed to start at 10pm ... but it's now 11pm and half the players aren't there yet. No calls, the missing people aren't picking up their cells, nothing. And I've got three or four people who've given up their Saturday night (maybe switched shifts, called in sick, skipped a social engagement) and they are expecting to play and might be relying on that check and now they're going home disappointed ... I would say only half the games we planned ever happened. I'd never know for sure until the point where I actually hit the record button.

It was stressful, it stopped being fun, the time invested wasn't worth the fractional increase in revenue, and so I decided to do something different. Which turned out to be a good decision, now that SellYourSexTape has exploded in popularity.

Boobzooka · 07-07-2008, 06:52 PM

I think this chart says it all.

NinjaSteve · 07-07-2008, 10:36 PM

Looks pretty sweet! This is the first time I've heard of your program so I just signed up.

INever · 07-07-2008, 10:43 PM

That's one fucking instructive post and chart.

andrej_NDC · 07-09-2008, 01:58 PM

Congrats.

btw those alexa stats are for both, the paysite and the galleries. If it was just the site, you would be big.

Dirty F · 07-09-2008, 02:00 PM

I just started to send some traffic.

Dirty F · 07-09-2008, 02:01 PM

Btw whats the deal with the 2k for a tape? Its hard to believe you pay everyone who sends in a home tape 2k.

wetkendra · 07-09-2008, 02:15 PM

im new here...but if ur smart enough to produce such good numbers then i would think you would be smart enough to not tell everyone how well your niche is doing...again im new here and maybe i just dont get it.

Mister E · 07-09-2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

VERY impressive. This is great to see, checking you out now my friend.

wetkendra · 07-09-2008, 03:36 PM

but theres no doubt that your numbers are awesome and the idea pretty original. nice job!

pornguy · 07-09-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Robbie what he means is that a lot of sites out there sell a membership, and inside is nothing but upsells etc, and that no way to do it any more.

biskoppen · 07-09-2008, 03:52 PM

I hope you enjoyed the 4k of sales we sent you

Dirty F · 07-09-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

I hope you enjoyed the 4k of sales we sent you

Yikes

Boobzooka · 07-09-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Btw whats the deal with the 2k for a tape? Its hard to believe you pay everyone who sends in a home tape 2k.

I'd pay that every day if I could get that many submissions. I made a post here earlier offering $1000 to anyone who simply referred a couple we accepted. No takers yet. It doesn't seem to matter how much money I offer if people lack the motivation to take it. I figured I'd be drowning in submissions by now, but nope. Beats me why so many girls will let a stranger ram her up the ass for a few hundred bucks, but lacks the entrepreneurial spirit to shoot some videos at home with someone she loves for $2K ....

Boobzooka · 07-09-2008, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

I hope you enjoyed the 4k of sales we sent you

When all I knew about TGPs was what I read on GFY, you proved the "good old days" aren't over yet. Thank you for having faith in this noobs silly ideas, and being brave enough to risk a lot of money on something different.

Dirty F · 07-09-2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

I'd pay that every day if I could get that many submissions. I made a post here earlier offering $1000 to anyone who simply referred a couple we accepted. No takers yet. It doesn't seem to matter how much money I offer if people lack the motivation to take it. I figured I'd be drowning in submissions by now, but nope. Beats me why so many girls will let a stranger ram her up the ass for a few hundred bucks, but lacks the entrepreneurial spirit to shoot some videos at home with someone she loves for $2K ....

Damn, that surprises me. How odd.

beta-tester · 07-09-2008, 05:58 PM

amazing idea definitely, nothing strange here ;)

Congrats, very impressing numbers!

Robbie · 07-09-2008, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wetkendra

im new here...but if ur smart enough to produce such good numbers then i would think you would be smart enough to not tell everyone how well your niche is doing...again im new here and maybe i just dont get it.

Just because somebody copies something doesn't mean it's gonna do as well as the original. Matter of fact it almost never does. A successful site is one that the person who created it has a passion for that niche. Then you have to take into account shooting styles, editing styles, creativity, etc.

Copying something doesn't mean you're gonna be able to pull off the same thing. I can teach you to play the same chords as the Beatles did and use the same words and you won't be able to write songs like they could.

What he did by posting here is get a lot of people interested in promoting him. I know I'm interested in it now and I had never heard of him before.

datatank · 07-09-2008, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Just because somebody copies something doesn't mean it's gonna do as well as the original. Matter of fact it almost never does. A successful site is one that the person who created it has a passion for that niche. Then you have to take into account shooting styles, editing styles, creativity, etc.

Copying something doesn't mean you're gonna be able to pull off the same thing. I can teach you to play the same chords as the Beatles did and use the same words and you won't be able to write songs like they could.

What he did by posting here is get a lot of people interested in promoting him. I know I'm interested in it now and I had never heard of him before.

ya just like friendster and yahoo

datatank · 07-09-2008, 10:51 PM

I should have pushed you way harder. I do not think I have a sponsor with better overall first earnings per click

Boobzooka · 07-10-2008, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

I should have pushed you way harder. I do not think I have a sponsor with better overall first earnings per click

Well now this thread is making me blush ...

Paul Markham · 07-10-2008, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing

Well now this thread is making me blush ...

Don't blush except with pride. I only saw your promos on the tour and was very impressed. Your site stands out above so many others. Well done.

Now I have to think about how I need to step up and shoot something with some imagination.

Serious-Partner · 07-10-2008, 06:02 AM

Wow! Great results guys... good luck!

07-07-2008, 08:47 AM	#51
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07-07-2008, 09:34 AM	#52
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07-07-2008, 10:59 AM	#53
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07-07-2008, 03:23 PM	#54
Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	From our experience it confirms our thoughts to say that racios have NO meaning as it goes from 1:17606 to 1/46 ... That targeted quality traffic converts well (from good review sites) and poor traffic ...from galleries and link farms poorly.... Does the millions of non productive hits give you advantages in site rankings and search engines hits ? or is it just a waste of band width? __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

07-07-2008, 05:15 PM	#55
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	wow nice stats, can I borrow a couple of those affiliates? __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

07-07-2008, 05:21 PM	#56
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Maybe you missed my post... why no more updates on Darering?

07-07-2008, 06:52 PM	#58
Boobzooka Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BOOBZOOKA.COM Posts: 626	I think this chart says it all. __________________ BOOBZOOKA: Amateur Affiliate Program featuring SellYourSexTape: Real couples document their lovelife for one week. HerBedroomWindow: Girls recording themselves alone at home. \| DareRing: "Truth Or Dare?" themed adult party games.

07-07-2008, 10:36 PM	#59
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	Looks pretty sweet! This is the first time I've heard of your program so I just signed up. __________________ ...

07-07-2008, 10:43 PM	#60
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07-09-2008, 01:58 PM	#61
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Congrats. btw those alexa stats are for both, the paysite and the galleries. If it was just the site, you would be big.

07-09-2008, 02:00 PM	#62
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I just started to send some traffic.

07-09-2008, 02:01 PM	#63
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Btw whats the deal with the 2k for a tape? Its hard to believe you pay everyone who sends in a home tape 2k.

07-09-2008, 02:15 PM	#64
wetkendra Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 13	im new here...but if ur smart enough to produce such good numbers then i would think you would be smart enough to not tell everyone how well your niche is doing...again im new here and maybe i just dont get it.

07-09-2008, 03:36 PM	#66
wetkendra Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 13	but theres no doubt that your numbers are awesome and the idea pretty original. nice job!

07-09-2008, 03:52 PM	#68
biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	I hope you enjoyed the 4k of sales we sent you

07-09-2008, 05:58 PM	#73
beta-tester Rock 'n Roll Baby! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA, temporarly Posts: 22,562	amazing idea definitely, nothing strange here ;) Congrats, very impressing numbers! __________________ Sig for sale. Affordable prices. Contact me and get a great deal ;) My contact: ICQ: 944-320-46 e-mail: manca {AT} HotFreeSex4All.com

07-09-2008, 10:51 PM	#76
datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	I should have pushed you way harder. I do not think I have a sponsor with better overall first earnings per click

07-10-2008, 06:02 AM	#79
Serious-Partner Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NY Posts: 2,585	Wow! Great results guys... good luck!