Geo pricing kills european sales ... - GoFuckYourself.com

Overload · 10-15-2008, 02:54 PM

whats wrong with program owners these days?
i mean, charging ?29,95 is whackin crap already,
but charging US surfers $29,95 and euro surfers
a whoppin ?39,95 for the SAME site is hilarious!
do ya think money grows on trees in europe? hey,
thats a killing $60 per MONTH? are you outta
control?

... this sucks balls big time ...
rethink folks ... and make some reasonable prices
for euro surfers to make more sales

all the best

OL' - BraveD.

BiggleJones · 10-15-2008, 03:02 PM

Your poll is flawed. There's no option saying it improves sales....cause it does.

Overload · 10-15-2008, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones

Your poll is flawed. There's no option saying it improves sales....cause it does.

sure, because all europeans are brain dead and pissing away
a whoppin $60 with joy ... ridiculous reply, sorry

Overload · 10-15-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones

Your poll is flawed. There's no option saying it improves sales....cause it does.

oh, nice idea ... show me your sales stats by COUNTRY!

After Shock Media · 10-15-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload

sure, because all europeans are brain dead and pissing away
a whoppin $60 with joy ... ridiculous reply, sorry

For many the numbers say otherwise.

TommyM · 10-15-2008, 03:09 PM

yup I would say it increases sales without a doubt

miss_jody · 10-15-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyM

yup I would say it increases sales without a doubt

agreed

Overload · 10-15-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyM

yup I would say it increases sales without a doubt

show me proof ... heck, for $60, a euro surfer could
sign up for TWO sites ...

Overload · 10-15-2008, 03:18 PM

take a look at your own shopping habits and see the diff.....assuming you are smart enuff to shop and compare

borked · 10-15-2008, 03:18 PM

see:
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...gional+billing

just frikken give the people the price in $ - they all pay with CCs which are multi-currency fer gods sake.

Just more conning the surfer...

xmas13 · 10-15-2008, 03:19 PM

Ignore them, next year they'll be back at their job at Burger King or in their parents' basement.

count of monte cristo · 10-15-2008, 03:47 PM

it may hurt sales a tiny bit, but the increase in $$$ makes it all worth it

Overload · 10-15-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by count of monte cristo

it may hurt sales a tiny bit, but the increase in $$$ makes it all worth it

total BS! the only one making more green is the sponsor! or do ya think ya make more $$$ if a euro surfer signs up?

look, you meet twin hookers ... same look, same body shape, all equal ... one of them asks for $100 for a fuck, the other $200 ... which wud ya book for the shove? the $100 chick, for TWO times

Overload · 10-15-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked

see:
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...gional+billing

just frikken give the people the price in $ - they all pay with CCs which are multi-currency fer gods sake.

Just more conning the surfer...

100% agreed ... sponsors charging
euro users more are just greedy filth

Supz · 10-15-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload

show me proof ... heck, for $60, a euro surfer could
sign up for TWO sites ...

stop saying its $60, because its not. Do you think the Europeans think how much money there network is in American Dollars. Or when they go to buy something they say how much cheaper it is in the US?

Overload · 10-15-2008, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supzdotcom

stop saying its $60, because its not. Do you think the Europeans think how much money there network is in American Dollars. Or when they go to buy something they say how much cheaper it is in the US?

it IS a fucking $60 ... clearly shows to me you have no idea how wrecked the dollar is! people in europe know DAMN WELL what the exchange rate is man! do ya think we are dumb or what? why shud a european user pay more in the first place? huh? it makes NO sense at all! or do ya think turkish people pay in LIRA for porn? surely not ... use your brain dammit

Overload · 10-15-2008, 05:40 PM

http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html

Sly · 10-15-2008, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload

it IS a fucking $60 ... clearly shows to me you have no idea how wrecked the dollar is! people in europe know DAMN WELL what the exchange rate is man! do ya think we are dumb or what? why shud a european user pay more in the first place? huh? it makes NO sense at all! or do ya think turkish people pay in LIRA for porn? surely not ... use your brain dammit

Europeans walk around and think to themselves "what would this cost in USD?"

Mark_E4A · 10-15-2008, 06:17 PM

on my join pages 29$ USD shows up a 18 EU

Overload · 10-15-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A

on my join pages 29$ USD shows up a 18 EU

that'd be reasonable and acceptable, but i see a ?24,95 on your join pages? hum?

Overload · 10-15-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Europeans walk around and think to themselves "what would this cost in USD?"

not really ... but serious ... WE DO KNOW a EURO is 1,5$ ... and without us (germans) the US would have no NASA or A-Bomb, so do ya think we are that dumb?

Nautilus · 10-15-2008, 07:08 PM

If it sells at that price, why not charging it. That would be flawed only if that meant lesser bottomline from European sales.

It's business man, not sort of communist "justice for all".

Overload · 10-15-2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus

If it sells at that price, why not charging it. That would be flawed only if that meant lesser bottomline from European sales.

It's business man, not sort of communist "justice for all".

now, ask yourself ... wud euro surfers buy at $60 or rather at $30?
self explaining, aint it? get your sponsors geo stats and see ...
euro surfers piss on such expensive sites

... besides ...
it does NOT sell at that price or very rarely ... YOU, the affiliates
are fucked over by geo (over)pricing ... the sponsors make a lotta
more green, but YOU as their promoter are paid in dollars ... got me?

Tempest · 10-15-2008, 07:32 PM

The programs don't care.. they want the money today.. as more and more european porn buyers clue in and stop buying, those same programs will be forced to change things but by then the damage will have been done.

Overload · 10-15-2008, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

The programs don't care.. they want the money today.. as more and more european porn buyers clue in and stop buying, those same programs will be forced to change things but by then the damage will have been done.

well worded tempest, i tip my hat to ya

Overload · 10-15-2008, 07:41 PM

to those who voted "doesnt affect my sales" ... show your stats lined up by COUNTRY! i bet my bony ass your sales suck big time on the euro market ... there are way more citizens in the EU than US, so show me proof you make MORE sales to EU users than US folks ... now, put your evidence (traceable and proof) here ...

CamTraffic · 10-15-2008, 08:23 PM

Increases sells when the conversion is done properly

Overload · 10-16-2008, 09:39 AM

i slowly get the picture ... most people didnt really read my post but only saw the poll ... the reason why i think geopricing sucks, is, because many sponsors use it in a way that fucks euro surfers over ...

example: US member pays lets say $29,95 - EU member pays €29,95, which equals to about $45 ... means, the euro surfer pays 1,5x of what a US members pays! why on earth? the worst i saw was $29,95/€39,95 which means the EU member pays about 2x ... THATs why i think geopricing (in most cases) has a negative effect on the sales ... well, why charge by country currency anyways? ppl pay with their CC and thats multicurrency payment ...

DarkJedi · 10-16-2008, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by count of monte cristo

it may hurt sales a tiny bit, but the increase in $$$ makes it all worth it

yeah, only you don't see any of this because the sponsor is paying you the standard $30 (or whatever) on all sales.

sponsor gets to keep the difference

spooky181 · 10-16-2008, 02:57 PM

How can anybody possibly think it's good for sales to charge more in Europe???

I own two sites, and for example one of my sites I charge $29.99 USD and charge 24.99 Euro, so that it works out roughly the same. Just seems fair and commonsense to not delibrately rip people off from certain zones...

Overload · 10-19-2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spooky181

How can anybody possibly think it's good for sales to charge more in Europe???

I own two sites, and for example one of my sites I charge $29.99 USD and charge 24.99 Euro, so that it works out roughly the same. Just seems fair and commonsense to not delibrately rip people off from certain zones...

1000% agreed ... why charge euro surfers more?
or, do people from turkiye pay 29,95 in LIRA?
do they?! i really doubt it

TidalWave · 10-19-2008, 07:48 PM

why not stop promoting US sponsors for your euro traffic then? you can use geo-targetting of your own, and push EU traffic to your EU sponsors

Finike · 10-20-2008, 12:22 AM

I am doing very well with the geo pricing - the percentage of € customers increased slightly

Biggy · 10-20-2008, 12:25 AM

What if its priced at 19-23 Euro?

poornpig · 10-20-2008, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

why not stop promoting US sponsors for your euro traffic then? you can use geo-targetting of your own, and push EU traffic to your EU sponsors

Seems like "World Police" wants to seperate from the rest of the world.

Is it the same like with the humanitarian aids from EU for the victims of catrina? EU bread is not good enough for US citizens... Its better to burn up the stuff.

DutchTeenCash · 10-20-2008, 02:26 AM

no

euro sales are better then ever and a nice chunky $40 almost on that 29.95 euro

seeandsee · 10-20-2008, 03:13 AM

Some people think we are rich in Europe

rowan · 10-20-2008, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Europeans walk around and think to themselves "what would this cost in USD?"

People who regularly purchase memberships (or even the occasional purchaser) would know how much the $29.95 membership used to cost them, and smell something funny when they see a join page with a much higher effective price in Euros.

Regional pricing is another one of those short term $, long term effect things like prechecked xsells. Enjoy it while you can.

LadyMischief · 10-20-2008, 05:59 AM

Billing customers in their local currency at a price that is sustainable in their own local economies isn't dumb at all. Even when the cost is a little more, sometimes consumers just appreciate that someone is catering to them. If not, they move on

Khun · 10-20-2008, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload

whats wrong with program owners these days?
i mean, charging ?29,95 is whackin crap already,
but charging US surfers $29,95 and euro surfers
a whoppin ?39,95 for the SAME site is hilarious!
do ya think money grows on trees in europe? hey,
thats a killing $60 per MONTH? are you outta
control?

... this sucks balls big time ...
rethink folks ... and make some reasonable prices
for euro surfers to make more sales

LAWL. This post makes me think of the good ole' quote "So sayeth the Surfer, so sayeth the LORD!" If you dont like it, dont pay it.

sperbonzo · 10-20-2008, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload

whats wrong with program owners these days?
i mean, charging ?29,95 is whackin crap already,
but charging US surfers $29,95 and euro surfers
a whoppin ?39,95 for the SAME site is hilarious!
do ya think money grows on trees in europe? hey,
thats a killing $60 per MONTH? are you outta
control?

... this sucks balls big time ...
rethink folks ... and make some reasonable prices
for euro surfers to make more sales

all the best

OL' - BraveD.

Shouldn't the point here be that, If you have a better business model, then use it, and garner more of the market share? YOU are free to not do business with programs whose pricing you disagree with, just as surfers are also free to chose.

I would think that since you know better regarding the EU market, that you would view the situation as a wonderful opportunity to do a lot of business for yourself, rather than a reason to get mad at someone else for doing it differently!

Maybe this is a little outside the box thinking here, but when I see other companies doing things that I think are counterproductive, or bad for business, then I go the other direction, and try to take the market share from them by doing it better. I certainly DON'T get mad at them for doing something that brings more customers to me by contrast!

slapass · 10-20-2008, 07:18 AM

This is crazy. He makes a poll so that people think he wanted info. Lots of people came in and gave it and he argues with them. Maybe that is why europeans pay more?

TheDoc · 10-20-2008, 07:25 AM

Who is charging $30 USD and it's converting to $60 Euro?

Most of us use Epoch, CCBill or Local Billing.. So whatever theory you have about $60 memberships is bullshit.

HorseShit · 10-20-2008, 07:26 AM

don't really care either way but doesn't seem like a bad thing

Overload · 10-20-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Who is charging $30 USD and it's converting to $60 Euro?

Most of us use Epoch, CCBill or Local Billing.. So whatever theory you have about $60 memberships is bullshit.

dude, i AM from europe, and when a
site charges me ?39,95, that equals to way over $55; NOT theory,
hard EVIDENCE!

View Poll Results: Your opinion about the latest geo pricing crap:
IT SUX BALLS!	16	42.11%
I DONT CARE	3	7.89%
DOESNT AFFECT MY SALES	19	50.00%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

10-15-2008, 02:54 PM	#1
Overload Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beck's City, North Teutonia Posts: 3,185	Geo pricing kills european sales ... whats wrong with program owners these days? i mean, charging ?29,95 is whackin crap already, but charging US surfers $29,95 and euro surfers a whoppin ?39,95 for the SAME site is hilarious! do ya think money grows on trees in europe? hey, thats a killing $60 per MONTH? are you outta control? ... this sucks balls big time ... rethink folks ... and make some reasonable prices for euro surfers to make more sales all the best OL' - BraveD. __________________ There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

10-15-2008, 03:02 PM	#2
BiggleJones Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Downtown LA Posts: 2,276	Your poll is flawed. There's no option saying it improves sales....cause it does. __________________ ICQ-291.596.343

10-15-2008, 03:18 PM	#9
Overload Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beck's City, North Teutonia Posts: 3,185	take a look at your own shopping habits and see the diff.....assuming you are smart enuff to shop and compare __________________ There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

10-15-2008, 03:18 PM	#10
borked Totally Borked Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,284	see: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...gional+billing just frikken give the people the price in $ - they all pay with CCs which are multi-currency fer gods sake. Just more conning the surfer... __________________ For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com (consider figuring out the email as test #1) All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

10-15-2008, 03:09 PM	#6
TommyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,147	yup I would say it increases sales without a doubt

10-15-2008, 03:19 PM	#11
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10-15-2008, 03:47 PM	#12
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10-15-2008, 05:40 PM	#17
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10-15-2008, 06:17 PM	#19
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10-15-2008, 07:08 PM	#22
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10-15-2008, 07:32 PM	#24
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	The programs don't care.. they want the money today.. as more and more european porn buyers clue in and stop buying, those same programs will be forced to change things but by then the damage will have been done.

10-15-2008, 07:41 PM	#26
Overload Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beck's City, North Teutonia Posts: 3,185	to those who voted "doesnt affect my sales" ... show your stats lined up by COUNTRY! i bet my bony ass your sales suck big time on the euro market ... there are way more citizens in the EU than US, so show me proof you make MORE sales to EU users than US folks ... now, put your evidence (traceable and proof) here ... __________________ There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

10-15-2008, 08:23 PM	#27
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10-16-2008, 09:39 AM	#28
Overload Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Beck's City, North Teutonia Posts: 3,185	i slowly get the picture ... most people didnt really read my post but only saw the poll ... the reason why i think geopricing sucks, is, because many sponsors use it in a way that fucks euro surfers over ... example: US member pays lets say $29,95 - EU member pays €29,95, which equals to about $45 ... means, the euro surfer pays 1,5x of what a US members pays! why on earth? the worst i saw was $29,95/€39,95 which means the EU member pays about 2x ... THATs why i think geopricing (in most cases) has a negative effect on the sales ... well, why charge by country currency anyways? ppl pay with their CC and thats multicurrency payment ... __________________ There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

10-16-2008, 02:57 PM	#30
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	How can anybody possibly think it's good for sales to charge more in Europe??? I own two sites, and for example one of my sites I charge $29.99 USD and charge 24.99 Euro, so that it works out roughly the same. Just seems fair and commonsense to not delibrately rip people off from certain zones...

10-19-2008, 07:48 PM	#32
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10-20-2008, 12:22 AM	#33
Finike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,581	I am doing very well with the geo pricing - the percentage of € customers increased slightly __________________ Pregnant, fetish or tit traffic? Promote Lactation Cash, a CCBill based lactation niche program with better signup and rebill ratios! Trade traffic: SexyPix TGP - Milky TGP - Lactation Sex TGP - So Sexy Nylons - Sexy Bra TGP - 6 Fetish Tube - All my traffic trades !

10-20-2008, 12:25 AM	#34
Biggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,595	What if its priced at 19-23 Euro?

10-20-2008, 02:26 AM	#36
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	no euro sales are better then ever and a nice chunky $40 almost on that 29.95 euro __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

10-20-2008, 03:13 AM	#37
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10-20-2008, 05:59 AM	#39
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10-20-2008, 07:18 AM	#42
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	This is crazy. He makes a poll so that people think he wanted info. Lots of people came in and gave it and he argues with them. Maybe that is why europeans pay more?

10-20-2008, 07:25 AM	#43
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Who is charging $30 USD and it's converting to $60 Euro? Most of us use Epoch, CCBill or Local Billing.. So whatever theory you have about $60 memberships is bullshit. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

10-20-2008, 07:26 AM	#44
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	don't really care either way but doesn't seem like a bad thing