TripleXPrint

In a local restaurant my server had on an Obama ?08 pin, I laughed as he had given away his political preference. Since he supported Obama, I figured I would use Obama's plan on him to see if he really agrees with it or is just another lemming following the "Obama Herd".

So when the bill came I decided not to tip him and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept that he supported and proudly displayed on his button.

He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone whom I deemed more in need; the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight mumbling bad things under his breath.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $15 and told him to thank the server inside as I?ve decided he could use the money more and that is the ideology the server supported and believed in. The homeless guy was extremely grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Think hard when you go to the polls to vote, people. Don't be a lemming and jump on the Obama bandwagon. Read about this guy and understand how it will affect your life and your business.

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TheSenator

LOL!!! Always tip your waiters, no matter what!

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TheSenator

Please, stop cutting and pasting bullshit around.

If you are a Republican just go away or jump off a building .

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NickPapageorgio

btw, they just redistributed 700 billion dollars worth of wealth and have been redistributing the wealth since the day you shit your first green diaper. Thanks for your republicunt talking point though. I will consider it as I'm wiping my ass with a printout of this thread later on.

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What you're supposed to do is go to a CEO's office, steal her lunch and give it to the homeless guy.

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TripleXPrint

Nice comeback, ass munch!

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TripleXPrint

You mean the bail out because of the fucked up position the Democraps put us in with the bullshit Bill Clinton implemented before leaving office and the Freddie Mack kick backs Osama was receiving by pushing through sub prime loans?

The Democraps will ruin the U.S.

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sinclair

My WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION plan in layman's terms.

I will not now or ever do business with you, and in fact tell everyone I know to not do business with you. In fact I will find someone else that I can send said business to (regardless of their political stance) because you sir are a simpleton.

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TripleXPrint

And what is it you do again? And do you have any fucking clue as to what I do? Now shut the fuck up and get the Democrappy black cock out of your mouth. You're embarrasing yourself.

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NickPapageorgio

I'm gonna say this in here because it amazes me that the "spreading the wealth" comment is still making it's rounds. Are you retarded? You do realize that they already spread your wealth around right? lol...what the fuck do you think taxes are for in the first place?

Since so many are NOT in favor of paying a little higher taxes, and so many people seem to have such a great understanding of how our economy works, how would you propose we pay down the deficit? How should America go about paying for the amount of debt we now have? Bring home the troops...oh wait...can't do that, we'd be defeatists. Raise taxes...oh wait...can't do that, we'd be socialists. Borrow it from China...oh wait...we did that already for the stimulus package then turned right around and bought chinese made products, basically giving them their money right back while still owing them the principle.

Ok, I'm out of ideas. Should we wish for the money? Or ask Santa?

Nevermind...I got it. We'll leave it in god's hands. Jesus will save us all...

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notoldschool

Exactly. Funny how dumbasses like himself dont recognize the LARGEST transer of wealth in American history that Bush and his lackeys just completed not a month ago. Fucking tools.

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NickPapageorgio

Yes, because it was totally democrats and democrats alone that caused the break down on wall street. Give me a break man, if you believe that then you are showing how fucked up in the head you are. Obama got kickbacks from Freddie Mack...McFail was one of the Keating 5.

Which one of them is better?

I'm sure John McCain learned his lesson though. No way he's corrupt. Not like the rest of em. Hell...he's the fuckin MAVERICK!!

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Martin

This guy is a idiot. It's not even close to being the samething. Move along.

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StuartD

For that to have been true, you'd have to take the tax money and give it to the homeless guy, not his tip. Big difference.

And as a McCain supporter, you should also take the tax money that you earn and give it to bank owners and investment company owners on Wall Street.

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sinclair

Well there ya have it. The truth be told. Took one disagreement to your point of view to roll out out he race issue. Closet racist are we? or are you just afraid of the black man's sexual appetite and naturally gifted endowment.

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TripleXPrint

Subprime loans lead to bad mortgages that lead to bad securities that lead to a big fat shit on Wall Street that had to be bailed out and just because Bush was in office during the time of the bailout it's automatically his fault?

Remember this, Community Reinvestment Act? That was the catalyst of this economic crisis but it's Bush's fault now because he had to bail it out. Fucking classic.

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marketsmart

Instead of bashing the thread starter, i will just say this...

education is key. the govt as a whole doesnt want the masses educated. it would be very hard to enforce control if everyone was educated enough to know what was really going on.

the problem is not the republicans or the democrats, its the govt as a whole. both parties are fleecing the public and until the people step up and start doing something instead of just complaining, things will remain unchanged.

people always complain about too much govt, but then as soon as shit hits the fan, people ask the govt how they plan to fix it..

the people should be smart enough and active in govt enough to tell their govt, this is how i want you to fix it...

NickPapageorgio

Here's Obama's "wealth redistribution plan" straight from his fucking website. SOCIALISM!!!!! OMGOMGOMG...

" * Middle class families will see their taxes cut – and no family making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase. The typical middle class family will receive well over $1,000 in tax relief under the Obama plan, and will pay tax rates that are 20% lower than they faced under President Reagan. According to the Tax Policy Center, the Obama plan provides three times as much tax relief for middle class families as the McCain plan.
* Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates than they paid in the 1990s. Obama will ask the wealthiest 2% of families to give back a portion of the tax cuts they have received over the past eight years to ensure we are restoring fairness and returning to fiscal responsibility. But no family will pay higher tax rates than they would have paid in the 1990s. In fact, dividend rates would be 39 percent lower than what President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut.
* Obama’s plan will cut taxes overall, reducing revenues to below the levels that prevailed under Ronald Reagan (less than 18.2 percent of GDP). The Obama tax plan is a net tax cut – his tax relief for middle class families is larger than the revenue raised by his tax changes for families over $250,000. Coupled with his commitment to cut unnecessary spending, Obama will pay for this tax relief while bringing down the budget deficit."

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NickPapageorgio

Exactly. It's a fucking horse race, but both horses are owned by the same guy.

I honestly get sick of hearing people try to "scare" other people into not voting for someone though. It's retarded.

"OMG...Did you hear?? Obama once had dinner at the SAME BURGER KING as Jeffrey Dahmer! Do we really want a cannibal running our country? If you vote for Barack HUSSEIN...HE WILL EATZ YOUR CHILRENZ!!"

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TripleXPrint

Thank you. My sentiments exactly. Just because I posted that people automatically assume I'm a Republican.

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BlackCrayon

If you wanted it to accurate you should of made sure the waiter made more than 250k per year in profit and then only took an extra 3%.

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TheDoc

Shouldn't they have given the tip to the owner? That's what just happened, and I saw McCain fully supporting it.

Anyway, I think anyone above a 3rd grade education understands that is the worst example of Wealth Redistribution ever! But I like it, because it shows how incredibly stupid and blind the right/republicans are on this subject.

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Tom_PM

If I step in shit I dont check it's political views before I decide if it smells like shit, or smells like candy.

Thats what watching hardcore partisan people is like. McCain could literally eat a live puppy on national tv and some people would still claim that Obama was the bad guy. Same on the other side.

Thank god the middle of the road voter actually decides these things.

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J. Falcon

Then all taxation is socialism. Which is absurd. Taking and redistributing the land (or a company) is socialism. Taxing assests isn't.

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NickPapageorgio

Well, it's because we are CONDITIONED to feel that way when we read over and over these same copy and pasted bullshit stories. I can't tell you how many fucking forwarded emails I get every week from my uber christian mother and sister telling me how spooky Osama Bin Obama is. It has become my natural reaction when I read one of these stories to assume that the reader is:

#1 an idiot
#2 a republican
#3 a sheep

Not in that order specifically. Check the sig, I hate them all. I'm ready for this shit house to go up in flames and for the people to take back what is ours.

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Republican. Racist. Homophobe.

What ever. I call you hopeless.

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One of the dumbest comparisons I have seen yet. Not even remotely on the same planet.

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Oh no Obama's gonna take all my monies and give them to the poors! </sarcasm>

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tony286

I quote my good friend Lenny because he said it so well :

Ok so I think I understand now.

Economic growth in the 1980's was because of Reagan. The massive debt incurred in the 1980's was because of the Democratic controlled congress.

Economic growth in the 1990's was because of the republican congress, and so was the balanced budget. Clinton, however, did set things in motion that are fucking us over today. (How dare he think that poor people should own their own homes)
The housing crisis has nothing to do with congress making Wall Street exempt from State gaming laws and Bucket Shop laws in 2000 that allowed the creation of derivatives and credit default swaps....it's all because those annoying liberals wanted poor people to be home owners.

Everything bad that's happened from 2000-2006 was because of the Democratic minority in congress....and everything bad that's happening now is the fault of the Democratic paper thin majority that's been there for 18 months. (they apparently work quick)

So really, even when republicans control all 3 branches of government, the Democrats still manage to fuck things up by trying to help poor people. So the only way to really turn things around is to have a one party system (with that party being Republican)

Oh yeah, and I almost forgot. A 35% top tax rate is capitalist, and a 39.6% top rate is socialist.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

crockett

It's kind of sicking when people spread around BS like this... which amount to pretty much outright lies.

No one is taking money from Joe to give to Bob. It's about taxes... If you get right down and think about it.. The Republicans do the exact same thing. Except they "Redistribute the welth to big business".

Why don't you quit being a lemmuing and quit spreading total BS around. This is about taxes not Robbing money from Peter to pay Paul.

Why don't you look at the fact McCain wants to cut taxes to Big Oil by 4 billion..

http://www.americanprogressaction.or...df/oil_tax.pdf

"The McCain plan would deliver approximately $170 billion a year in tax cuts to corporations, including some corporations that are very large and profitable. Just one of the proposals—cutting the corporate rate from 35 percent to 25 percent would cut taxes for five largest U.S. oil companies by $3.8 billion a year (see table below). The five corporations analyzed ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Valero Energy, and Marathon—are the five largest oil companies as ranked by Fortune Magazine. All are members of the Fortune 50.4 Together, they earned $80 billion worldwide in 2007.5
The McCain Plan to Cut Oil Company
Taxes by Nearly $4 Billion
March 27, 2008"

Is that not the same thing you are bitching about Obama doing? Obama just plans to do the opposite, and give the tax cuts to middle class working people vs Big Oil whom has made record profits the last two years. Not to mention Big Oil made much of those record profits at the expense of tax payers.

Blame your damn Republicans for spending us into record debits every time they have been in office since WW2.. Then come back and cry about your taxes. Someone has to pay for it, every time a Republican president doubles the national debit. When was the last time a Democrat Presidant doubled the national debit in his term?

You think you could just keep spending with your credit card and never pay for it? Well say thank you to Ronald Regan, George Bush Sr & George Bush Jr for their outrageous spending while in office. Once again a Democrat has to step up to the plate and take the bitching and moaning about taxes to fix the fuck ups of Republicans.

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KillerK

Obama has changed it, now its $200,000 once he gets in maybe it will be $100,000?

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Not liberals
http://www.economist.com/world/unite...res _box_main

Tom_PM

I know what you're referring to, but I'm not sure it's accurate.
I believe he says "no family making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase.".

And in ADDITION (not instead of) that, every family making $200,000 or less will get a tax cut.

They're not the same.. although I get what you're questioning. I tried to pay careful attention to that detail, since every tiny slip of word in politics makes all the difference.

IN other words, 200k to 250k = no difference? Not sure really. It *IS* a good point, but after so many attacks, it's gonna be hard to ask the question and get people to actually figure it out.

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DaddyHalbucks

Remember, the wealthy are mobile. They can hop on a jet and relocate easily.

As wealthy people flee or find shelters to avoid Obama's greedy fingers in their wallets, his tax base may erode, and he may be forced to go even lower.

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Much better example.

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wig

It's not as easy as it sounds. If you are an American citizen, you pay taxes no matter where you relocate.

If you go as far as to renounce your citizenship and give up your US passport, and the IRS determines you did so solely to avoid paying taxes, they can continue to tax you for 10 years.

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crockett

Yes because a 4% tax hike will make them lose all their money.. Lets get real here...

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pigman

The man on the street probably needed to money more so what a great thing to do.

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Nice post

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dav3

Hello email copy/paste twit bag, stop regurgitating the Republitard talking points that are drilled into your echo-producing brain from Fox News. "Redistribution of Wealth" has been occurring longer than you've been alive. It's called "Taxes". It's called "Social Security". It's called "Welfare". Why do you wait until McCaint/Falin tell you about it to whine?

Vote "ZOMGZ VAGINA in 2008!" and stop the evil terrorists from taking over America!

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cykoe6

Why is the well known fact that the US government has been stealing and squandering huge amounts of money from its citizens since 1913 mean that they should steal and squander even more? That is not exactly a winning argument. Removing the economic incentives for success is a well worn course towards disaster that has failed everywhere it has been tried.

The tired old rhetoric about taxing the evil rich and helping the poor has already been tried and has consistently produced economic stagnation while low taxes and less government interference has consistently produced economic growth.

Government is the enemy of innovation and economic growth. The less government interference and taxation that there is the better off all elements of society will be. The answer to too much big government is not an even bigger government.

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wig

Governments squandering money is not limited to the US.

And while more government is not the answer, no government or regulation is not the answer either. Should we just get rid of all anti trust laws, too?

The Federal Reserve surely is open to criticism, but unless you have a better alternative simply suggesting that its only result was the stealing of money is rather naive.

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IllTestYourGirls

This is a better example.

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