Porn vs prostitution

[oldboy]

There are more money in prostitution so why do girls choose to do porn?

[frankie_gunn]

They get to fuck hot young guys, and don't have to do it every day for the same amount of money.

[voa]

Because they think they are more save in porn

[Klen]

Maybe because prostitution is still illegal in most of countries?Plus there are many pornstar who provide escort services.

[notime]

They can watch it again later....

[smutnut]

This is a joke question, right?

Just in case. Most pornstars don't get beaten by their pimps or awaken with their throats slit in the back of some dark alley.

Unless you're talking about high class escorts with just a few select clients, and then I'm sure it's a matter of going where the best profit is.

Also I'd question where most money really is. It all depends on who you are and what you have to do.

[EscortBiz]

A few things:

A) many girls who do porn have done escorting before they started porn and continue to do so, remember porn is shot at hours that escorts dont get many calls

B) Just like mainstream actresses think that once they land in Hollywood and people see her natural acting skills that her mother brags about everyone will rush to hire her, same goes with porn most girls who get into porn, they all throw around the same lame words "my goal is to get a contract" or "im doing it to get content to start my own site" both very sad dreams as it never translates into what they are expecting. Once they see that the only way to make any money worth wiriting home about is to do hardcore they either quit or do it and as time goes on they will start doing "privates" and possibly fizzle out of shooting porn all together.

C) Many do stripping, escorting, porn etc. You may ask isnt shooting porn enough money? But between sometimes trying to satisfy some pimp to the fact girls who do this spend money 5X as fast as it comes in on shoes handbags etc (many cases to calm the depression) they always seem to be broke, even girls brining in 5K + a week.

D) When you see hot escorts that dont do porn dont always think the reason is because they dont want to be on camera (althou that can be the case yet they have no problem having their photo on 5000 escort sites) the escort might simply have dirty tests and god knows how dirty, and thats why she cant shoot for anyone normal.

E) Shooting porn for 800+ a day "sounds way better" then going from house to house sucking cock for 150 bucks, they also feel its safer security wise and health wise.

When you see a girl do hardcore today remember when she started she use to wear a wig to try to hide who she is, maybe even dyed her hair, she maybe refused to even talk much in the porn, its a gradual process, as they see other girls on set doing hardcore and hardcore girls always seem to push the non hardcore girls into doing hardcore and the cycle keeps on repeating itself.

The truth:

For a girl that will work with a normal agent porn is great money, she simply needs to decide her boundaries way in advance and stick to those.

Remember most girls in these days anyway go on many dates a week get played by guys that fuck them with no condom and no tests and they dont get paid for it.

So for many girls after being bullshitted over and over they are like what the fuck, I might as well get paid to have sex and who cares that its on cam, at least they will fuck guys that have big dicks and in many cases look good.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Unless you're talking about high class escorts with just a few select clients, and then I'm sure it's a matter of going where the best profit is.

you watch to many movies, this really only applies to 0.1% of escorts out there, yet 99% of escorts will tell you they only see a few people a week and thats it, they will describe them as very well known sports stars and actors or political connected people, most men will buy their bullshit too.

They might even go as far as saying that "Celeb A" (someone real rich and famous) wants to marry them but they dont feel its a right connection.

Here is a tip "Never under any circumstances believe a SINGLE work a stripper, escort, porn girl tells you" about money offers and marriage offers she gets etc.

Even the super hot ones and im talking REALLY hot seem to be always out of money, part being is because they only work when they need to cover a certain bill, so they have 0 buffer.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

you watch to many movies, this really only applies to 0.1% of escorts out there, yet 99% of escorts will tell you they only see a few people a week and thats it, they will describe them as very well known sports stars and actors or political connected people, most men will buy their bullshit too.

They might even go as far as saying that "Celeb A" (someone real rich and famous) wants to marry them but they dont feel its a right connection.

Here is a tip "Never under any circumstances believe a SINGLE work a stripper, escort, porn girl tells you" about money offers and marriage offers she gets etc.

Even the super hot ones and im talking REALLY hot seem to be always out of money, part being is because they only work when they need to cover a certain bill, so they have 0 buffer.

Which pretty much proves my point.

P.S. I never believe anything a woman says period so I'm covered in the trust department unless I turn gay.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by notime

They can watch it again later....

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

A few things:

A) many girls who do porn have done escorting before they started porn and continue to do so, remember porn is shot at hours that escorts dont get many calls

B) Just like mainstream actresses think that once they land in Hollywood and people see her natural acting skills that her mother brags about everyone will rush to hire her, same goes with porn most girls who get into porn, they all throw around the same lame words "my goal is to get a contract" or "im doing it to get content to start my own site" both very sad dreams as it never translates into what they are expecting. Once they see that the only way to make any money worth wiriting home about is to do hardcore they either quit or do it and as time goes on they will start doing "privates" and possibly fizzle out of shooting porn all together.

C) Many do stripping, escorting, porn etc. You may ask isnt shooting porn enough money? But between sometimes trying to satisfy some pimp to the fact girls who do this spend money 5X as fast as it comes in on shoes handbags etc (many cases to calm the depression) they always seem to be broke, even girls brining in 5K + a week.

D) When you see hot escorts that dont do porn dont always think the reason is because they dont want to be on camera (althou that can be the case yet they have no problem having their photo on 5000 escort sites) the escort might simply have dirty tests and god knows how dirty, and thats why she cant shoot for anyone normal.

E) Shooting porn for 800+ a day "sounds way better" then going from house to house sucking cock for 150 bucks, they also feel its safer security wise and health wise.

When you see a girl do hardcore today remember when she started she use to wear a wig to try to hide who she is, maybe even dyed her hair, she maybe refused to even talk much in the porn, its a gradual process, as they see other girls on set doing hardcore and hardcore girls always seem to push the non hardcore girls into doing hardcore and the cycle keeps on repeating itself.

The truth:

For a girl that will work with a normal agent porn is great money, she simply needs to decide her boundaries way in advance and stick to those.

Remember most girls in these days anyway go on many dates a week get played by guys that fuck them with no condom and no tests and they dont get paid for it.

So for many girls after being bullshitted over and over they are like what the fuck, I might as well get paid to have sex and who cares that its on cam, at least they will fuck guys that have big dicks and in many cases look good.

Just curious. You're not claiming prostitution isn't dangerous, are you?

Not trying to start something up, but what I know has nothing to do with the movies, and statiscally it's probably safer than most life threatening jobs, but it is a fairly dangerous business.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Just curious. You're not claiming prostitution isn't dangerous, are you?

and what did I say that even remotely says none of this isnt dangerous?

[Manowar]

listen to ugk - the game belong to me.... sums it up pretty well, although escortbiz has already done a great job

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

and what did I say that even remotely says none of this isnt dangerous?

It's what you didn't say. Like I said, I was just curious. I realize an escort business operates differently than typical prostitution, which is the majority of the business, but even a service doesn't gaurantee shit.

I'm not anti-prostitution, anymore than I'm anti physical sports or bounty hunting or parachuting (etc), but there is an element of danger and I think that might be a factor that makes girls more inclined to porn.

Damn, I thought he was asking a joke question, but I guess not after all.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by frankie_gunn

They get to fuck hot young guys,.

I agree

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by smutnut

It's what you didn't say. Like I said, I was just curious. I realize an escort business operates differently than typical prostitution, which is the majority of the business, but even a service doesn't gaurantee shit.

I'm not anti-prostitution, anymore than I'm anti physical sports or bounty hunting or parachuting (etc), but there is an element of danger and I think that might be a factor that makes girls more inclined to porn.

Damn, I thought he was asking a joke question, but I guess not after all.

You are assuming that most girls did their first gig by going thru a agent and dealing with a normal pro crew.

In most cases their first gig was just as dangerous as showing up to some strangers house at 3AM, their first gig might of been some ad they replied to on CL whereas some guy was shooting POV in his moms basement.

Its all risky no doubt

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by GatorB

I agree

not really a good example! Was he ever? I don't think he'd survive in today's porn world.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by notime

They can watch it again later....

best response EVER...

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

You are assuming that most girls did their first gig by going thru a agent and dealing with a normal pro crew.

In most cases their first gig was just as dangerous as showing up to some strangers house at 3AM, their first gig might of been some ad they replied to on CL whereas some guy was shooting POV in his moms basement.

Its all risky no doubt

I disagree. I think most girls get into porn through someone they are at the very least a casual aquaintance with.

I think a lot (I won't say most) girls get into prostitution with a complete stranger, or at least make the transaction with one.

Not that this makes any difference. Sooner or later all prostitutes that stay in the business have to change their personal rules and most end up meeting even stranger people.

In the porn business they get to know people who are more and more legit and become part of a community (generally, until they overstay their welcome)

porn is not as dangerous as prostitution. it's just not possible and the statistics wouldn't support that at all.

[Farang]

I love hookers... I love I love I love them!!

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by smutnut

I disagree. I think most girls get into porn through someone they are at the very least a casual aquaintance with.

I think a lot (I won't say most) girls get into prostitution with a complete stranger, or at least make the transaction with one.

Not that this makes any difference. Sooner or later all prostitutes that stay in the business have to change their personal rules and most end up meeting even stranger people.

In the porn business they get to know people who are more and more legit and become part of a community (generally, until they overstay their welcome)

porn is not as dangerous as prostitution. it's just not possible and the statistics wouldn't support that at all.

You think and I know thats the difference here

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

You think and I know thats the difference here

Actually, we should lure Jenna Jameson and the "local crackwhore" into this thread and get some actual real world perspective on this

[Vicious_B]

Originally Posted by GatorB

I agree

Originally Posted by smutnut

not really a good example! Was he ever? I don't think he'd survive in today's porn world.

Hard to believe but he wasn't bad looking when he started out. Of course today he would have probably waxed the hell out of his chest.

[Chicks Delivery]

Because in Porn they become famous!

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by GatorB

I agree

That why those girls demand like $1500 a set... that troll is one ugly mother..

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by GatorB

I agree

[pornlaw]

When a woman does porn she gets to increase her rates for escorting, dancing and webcamming.

A lot of pornstars do escort and they can charge $1500 or more per hour as opposed to perhaps $500 to $750 if they never did scenes.

It really is a question of chicken vs. the egg. I know al lot of women that started on the escort/dancer side and moved over as a business decision to make more money. There are more that go from porn to escorting to make up income gaps when shooting tails off.

Either way, it is usually tied to an increase in income either way.

[Deesnuts]

Originally Posted by voa

Because they think they are more save in porn

true true

[robfantasy]

listen to escortbiz he knows his shit

[DWB]

What makes you think they all choose one or the other? Many of them do both.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by smutnut

This is a joke question, right?

Just in case. Most pornstars don't get beaten by their pimps or awaken with their throats slit in the back of some dark alley.
.

I never beat my hoes. Im not sure if they wake up after their throats get slit though.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by robfantasy

listen to escortbiz he knows his shit

Great! Now, I have a contact when if I need to start selling my ass!

[Emma]

I found this http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/co...phy/index.html

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

When a woman does porn she gets to increase her rates for escorting, dancing and webcamming.

A lot of pornstars do escort and they can charge $1500 or more per hour as opposed to perhaps $500 to $750 if they never did scenes.

It really is a question of chicken vs. the egg. I know al lot of women that started on the escort/dancer side and moved over as a business decision to make more money. There are more that go from porn to escorting to make up income gaps when shooting tails off.

Either way, it is usually tied to an increase in income either way.

I was reading all the answers in this thread made by guys who seem to be just theorizing about the girls in the adult business. I was getting my typing fingers ready to tell you guys the real deal about it...

But then Michael reached out his pimp hand and bitch slapped me by beating me to the punch.

That is 100% correct Michael. You'd think that some of the people on GFY would have some knowledge of marketing, but in this thread it appears that only you and I do.

CM gets offers via email everyday. Most recently was an offer for her to go on a world cruise with a six figure payday for her time. She certainly wouldn't get these kind of offers if she wasn't a pornstar.

So it's not a case of either/or, but rather a symbiotic relationship between the two. If you gain some notoriety as a porn star and develop a big fan base, then you can make a lot more money at the strip club and/or you will get outrageous money offers for sex BECAUSE you are a pornstar and have some level of fame.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I was reading all the answers in this thread made by guys who seem to be just theorizing about the girls in the adult business. I was getting my typing fingers ready to tell you guys the real deal about it...

But then Michael reached out his pimp hand and bitch slapped me by beating me to the punch.

That is 100% correct Michael. You'd think that some of the people on GFY would have some knowledge of marketing, but in this thread it appears that only you and I do.

CM gets offers via email everyday. Most recently was an offer for her to go on a world cruise with a six figure payday for her time. She certainly wouldn't get these kind of offers if she wasn't a pornstar.

So it's not a case of either/or, but rather a symbiotic relationship between the two. If you gain some notoriety as a porn star and develop a big fan base, then you can make a lot more money at the strip club and/or you will get outrageous money offers for sex BECAUSE you are a pornstar and have some level of fame.

Like the OCTO MOM and BOBBIT and that BLACK CHICK that sucked off the movie star that should have been home fucking Elisabeth Hurley...

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Like the OCTO MOM and BOBBIT and that BLACK CHICK that sucked off the movie star that should have been home fucking Elisabeth Hurley...

Actually...as sick as it is...yeah.

[tranza]

Originally Posted by notime

They can watch it again later....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, sure!

[pornlaw]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I was reading all the answers in this thread made by guys who seem to be just theorizing about the girls in the adult business. I was getting my typing fingers ready to tell you guys the real deal about it...

But then Michael reached out his pimp hand and bitch slapped me by beating me to the punch.

That is 100% correct Michael. You'd think that some of the people on GFY would have some knowledge of marketing, but in this thread it appears that only you and I do.

CM gets offers via email everyday. Most recently was an offer for her to go on a world cruise with a six figure payday for her time. She certainly wouldn't get these kind of offers if she wasn't a pornstar.

So it's not a case of either/or, but rather a symbiotic relationship between the two. If you gain some notoriety as a porn star and develop a big fan base, then you can make a lot more money at the strip club and/or you will get outrageous money offers for sex BECAUSE you are a pornstar and have some level of fame.

Since both of us have significant others that are pornstars we get an insiders look at how the industry works for the girls that do have a following.

I have a lot of strippers as well as escorts that contact me wanting to do scenes because they know it only helps their bottom line.

Its only a matter of time until a house dancer sees a feature performer at her club make $5000-$10,000 in a weekend to realize that that doing scenes means more money. And it is the same for an escort who learns that the guy she just charged $500 for an hour paid $1500 for the same sex acts a week before to a pornstar.

And I would never bitch slap you !!!

[czarina]

Originally Posted by frankie_gunn

They get to fuck hot young guys, and don't have to do it every day for the same amount of money.

was Ron Jeremy ever young and hot?

[AaliyahLove]

oh please..

[smutnut]

I can't believe anyone here is even "kind of" promoting prositution over porn.

[Big Red Machine]

Prostitutes do Porn for exposure, Pornstars do Prostitution to bank $......same coin

[smutnut]

First of all, if prostitution ever even starts to beat out porn, you are all unemployed. Everyone better pray there is a surplus of losers out there who would rather pay almost the same amount to jerk off to bullshit than add a buck or two and go out and get the real thing

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by smutnut

First of all, if prostitution ever even starts to beat out porn, you are all unemployed. Everyone better pray there is a surplus of losers out there who would rather pay almost the same amount to jerk off to bullshit than add a buck or two and go out and get the real thing

If you read what Michael said...it's not a case of prostitution vs. porn It's a case of prostitution and porn and stripping and signings and adult convention appearances and even mainstream t.v. and movie opportunities as well as magazines and music videos all go together. As long as a girl has the fame of being recognized as an adult star worldwide...she has opportunities to further monetize her fame.
Not choose one over another.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Robbie

If you read what Michael said...it's not a case of prostitution vs. porn It's a case of prostitution and porn and stripping and signings and adult convention appearances and even mainstream t.v. and movie opportunities as well as magazines and music videos all go together. As long as a girl has the fame of being recognized as an adult star worldwide...she has opportunities to further monetize her fame.
Not choose one over another.

Wow!

This is really making getting laid into a complex scientific and economic equation