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Old 11-18-2009, 02:23 PM   #101
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Oh yeah... that's part of hunting, it doesn't always go how you plan.

It isn't like every cow is dead or out cold, when they cut the throat. Pigs are the same way... sometimes, shit really doesn't go as you plan.
I get no kick out of killing animals, but have done it previously - on a very small scale - chickens for food, and even worse, baby chickens w/ deformaties etc (when you raise them in an incubator, the responsibility falls on you, cos the mother / clutch won't do it naturally)

Truly not a nice experience, but I think to know how to hunt / kill / clean / prepare / store / eat game would be a very useful skill to have - no just for 'survival' - but also to understand the food process.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:27 PM   #102
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I get no kick out of killing animals, but have done it previously - on a very small scale - chickens for food, and even worse, baby chickens w/ deformaties etc (when you raise them in an incubator, the responsibility falls on you, cos the mother / clutch won't do it naturally)

Truly not a nice experience, but I think to know how to hunt / kill / clean / prepare / store / eat game would be a very useful skill to have - no just for 'survival' - but also to understand the food process.
I haven't ever had to do that... killing a baby chicken would be rough.

It makes me appreciate the food others pre-make for me... I don't have to get my hands dirty, I don't have to feel bad. I just cook, eat and go.
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I haven't ever had to do that... killing a baby chicken would be rough.

It makes me appreciate the food others pre-make for me... I don't have to get my hands dirty, I don't have to feel bad. I just cook, eat and go.
I don't think anyone here is really debating the issue that killing animals is Not Fun, just the racial / hypocritical BS of the OP.
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That is actually true, the MASSIVE amounts of stress hormones released during the process tenderize the meat. That is the reason Chinese use extreme torture methods, such is live skinning, during animal slaughter.

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Old 11-18-2009, 02:47 PM   #106
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That is actually true, the MASSIVE amounts of stress hormones released during the process tenderize the meat. That is the reason Chinese use extreme torture methods, such is live skinning, during animal slaughter.
The Food and Agriculture Organisation of the UN disagrees with you.
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America/s isn't a Culture... it's cultures of many.

Chinese bring to the table, extreme family values, teaching values, culture values, much calmer religious values... In many ways they are America 100+ years ago, fighting for the same freedoms and dreams as we did.
I watched a undercover doc on HBO last night about how the Chinese steal 70,000 children every year and sell them to other Chinese families, mostly because of their one child per family law. Unless of course you have money to pay a fee to the gov then you are allowed to have more. Some people even sell their children because they didn't get a "birth permit" from the gov before having the baby. Since they can't afford to pay that fine to keep the child, they sell their kid on the baby market.

I hope they leave their skinning animals alive and child stealing values in China when they take us over.
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I watched a undercover doc on HBO last night about how the Chinese steal 70,000 children every year and sell them to other Chinese families, mostly because of their one child per family law. Unless of course you have money to pay a fee to the gov then you are allowed to have more. Some people even sell their children because they didn't get a "birth permit" from the gov before having the baby. Since they can't afford to pay that fine to keep the child, they sell their kid on the baby market.

I hope they leave their skinning animals alive and child stealing values in China when they take us over.
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I watched a undercover doc on HBO last night about how the Chinese steal 70,000 children every year and sell them to other Chinese families, mostly because of their one child per family law. Unless of course you have money to pay a fee to the gov then you are allowed to have more. Some people even sell their children because they didn't get a "birth permit" from the gov before having the baby. Since they can't afford to pay that fine to keep the child, they sell their kid on the baby market.

I hope they leave their skinning animals alive and child stealing values in China when they take us over.
Have you ever looked at America? Like actually looked and seen how fucked up it is? You do know we have like 3rd world poor, worse conditions than China, in our own Country, we aren't all golden, perfect people...


Child abductions and kidnapping happens all over the world, in every country, in every state, and in every major city? At least these kids are going to homes, and not being sold off as sex slaves.

Good lord, America had that school principal that was looking to buy a little boy to fuck down in Mexico that was kidnapped from America. Or that sick fuck that took the child at age 9 and 20 something years later let her go.

Yeah... the values of China coming over here and corrupting us, that is the least of my worries.
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I signed the petition.. again why is everyone arguing? Noone said one form of animal cruelty is better than the other. It is all cruel yes even eating meat.. Jesus people I can't believe you are still going on about this.. if you don't wanna sign the petition don't... End of story...
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I signed the petition.. again why is everyone arguing? Noone said one form of animal cruelty is better than the other. It is all cruel yes even eating meat.. Jesus people I can't believe you are still going on about this.. if you don't wanna sign the petition don't... End of story...
The post wasn't about a petition, it was about videos.

And you signed an online petition, for another Country...brilliant action. It's not really doing anything other than bitching, like your post about people still posting.
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The post wasn't about a petition, it was about videos.

And you signed an online petition, for another Country...brilliant action. It's not really doing anything other than bitching, like your post about people still posting.
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I watched a undercover doc on HBO last night about how the Chinese steal 70,000 children every year and sell them to other Chinese families, mostly because of their one child per family law. Unless of course you have money to pay a fee to the gov then you are allowed to have more. Some people even sell their children because they didn't get a "birth permit" from the gov before having the baby. Since they can't afford to pay that fine to keep the child, they sell their kid on the baby market.

I hope they leave their skinning animals alive and child stealing values in China when they take us over.
hey retard, you jump my shit for asking a question, yet let this op off the hook? i guess i was right about you being a hypocrite.
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Have you ever looked at America? Like actually looked and seen how fucked up it is? You do know we have like 3rd world poor, worse conditions than China, in our own Country, we aren't all golden, perfect people...


Child abductions and kidnapping happens all over the world, in every country, in every state, and in every major city? At least these kids are going to homes, and not being sold off as sex slaves.

Good lord, America had that school principal that was looking to buy a little boy to fuck down in Mexico that was kidnapped from America. Or that sick fuck that took the child at age 9 and 20 something years later let her go.

Yeah... the values of China coming over here and corrupting us, that is the least of my worries.
lol - All I mentioned was I hope that they leave two of their "values" at home when they take us over.

You mention that "at least they are going to homes, and not being sold off to sex slaves." I wonder if you would make that same statement if it was your child being taken and sold to a "good" family? If you watch the HBO film, you'll see that some of the kids are beaten to be made to stay in their new home. Most of these children are not little tiny babies, they are several months old and older. Old enough to remember their first family or run away and try and find their real parents, etc.

Oh, and I sure as hell never mentioned we're "all golden, perfect people," in this country, far from it. All one needs to do is read some of the forums/blogs to get a sample of that.
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lol - All I mentioned was I hope that they leave two of their "values" at home when they take us over.

You mention that "at least they are going to homes, and not being sold off to sex slaves." I wonder if you would make that same statement if it was your child being taken and sold to a "good" family? If you watch the HBO film, you'll see that some of the kids are beaten to be made to stay in their new home. Most of these children are not little tiny babies, they are several months old and older. Old enough to remember their first family or run away and try and find their real parents, etc.

Oh, and I sure as hell never mentioned we're "all golden, perfect people," in this country, far from it. All one needs to do is read some of the forums/blogs to get a sample of that.
Well my country doesn't have a law on it.... so I really don't give a shit. I can't do anything about China and honestly, I don't want to do even .00000001% for them when my own Country has far more screwed up things to deal with, right this second.


And 10,000's of not 100,000's of if not millions of Children in America are either forced by the Courts or given up by parents and again, forced by the Courts.. to live with people, that often beat them, rape them, and treat them worst than dogs.

Did you know WE have special schools for kids that had this happen to them, with special teachers to help? That's how often it happens...


My point is... you want to inject your personal feelings into China, run off and sign a petition to stop something in China...

But you and others, DO, turn a blind eye to your own Country.
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hey retard, you jump my shit for asking a question, yet let this op off the hook? i guess i was right about you being a hypocrite.
Naw, it's because after reading some of the posts from idiots like you, I have more to do in my life than live on GFY all day long and look for people like you that should be taking diarrhea medicine to stop that shitty flow coming out of your mouth everyday.
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Naw, it's because after reading some of the posts from idiots like you, I have more to do in my life than live on GFY all day long and look for people like you that should be taking diarrhea medicine to stop that shitty flow coming out of your mouth everyday.
omg BURN! wow. yet here you are hanging out & playing keyboard warrior. the hypocrisy just doesn't stop with you.
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Well my country doesn't have a law on it.... so I really don't give a shit. I can't do anything about China and honestly, I don't want to do even .00000001% for them when my own Country has far more screwed up things to deal with, right this second.


And 10,000's of not 100,000's of if not millions of Children in America are either forced by the Courts or given up by parents and again, forced by the Courts.. to live with people, that often beat them, rape them, and treat them worst than dogs.

Did you know WE have special schools for kids that had this happen to them, with special teachers to help? That's how often it happens...


My point is... you want to inject your personal feelings into China, run off and sign a petition to stop something in China...

But you and others, DO, turn a blind eye to your own Country.
doc, it amazing to me that you know for a fact that I personally turn a blind eye to my own country. How do you know that? The fact is you don't know a damn thing about my views. As much as I agree that this country needs a lot of work, you, by your own words appear to be VERY critical of it. Hopefully you're doing more about it then just talking on forums.
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omg BURN! wow. yet here you are hanging out & playing keyboard warrior. the hypocrisy just doesn't stop with you.
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doc, it amazing to me that you know for a fact that I personally turn a blind eye to my own country. How do you know that? The fact is you don't know a damn thing about my views. As much as I agree that this country needs a lot of work, you, by your own words appear to be VERY critical of it. Hopefully you're doing more about it then just talking on forums.
I'm a Marine, I'm allowed to be critical, and I already took action.


You posted your views... I looked at your action. You don't like china, you think it's a shit hole filled with people that skin dogs alive and toss them in the trash, that should stay far from us to not taint us, so you push to get a petition signed that you shouldn't even be worring about...

I can see your actions and your words, you're taking action some place else, when you shouldn't have given it a second thought.

You put dogs before humans... even giving a shit about a stupid ass dog over a human is insane.

That same action used in our Country could have benefited us... but no, you took action some place else, on dogs...

Get it yet?
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I should warning you, this is very disturbing, but someone has to help them. There are some organizations fighting for China to create some laws in order to protect these animals.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7Gx8qFYhdbo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ew1cLstv3ew

There are tons of videos, just can't watch them

It's so sad.
Eh, it's not sad to me. Ya, there is cruelty in the world. So what else is new? Guess what, no matter what you do to fight it, 5000 years from now, there will still be just as much or even more cruelty in the world. So just relax, enjoy life, and have a cat burger. It might not be so bad.
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Eh, it's not sad to me. Ya, there is cruelty in the world. So what else is new? Guess what, no matter what you do to fight it, 5000 years from now, there will still be just as much or even more cruelty in the world. So just relax, enjoy life, and have a cat burger. It might not be so bad.
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jesus christ this is a porn forum. save this shit for oprah.

communist china doesn't give a fuck about your cries or petitions get real.
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I'm a Marine, I'm allowed to be critical, and I already took action.
You were a Marine, so job over now I guess.


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You posted your views... I looked at your action. You don't like china, you think it's a shit hole filled with people that skin dogs alive and toss them in the trash, that should stay far from us to not taint us, so you push to get a petition signed that you shouldn't even be worring about...
Never mentioned anything about a petition. Never said I don't like China, never said it was a shit-hole. I said I hope they don't bring two things over with them, skinning dogs alive and kidnapping children...period.

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Just because something isn't happening in my front yard, doesn't mean one should not care. You say you were a Marine, I guess you would have only gone to war if it was in this country then. Seems this country is in 2 wars right now so that the bad guys don't come back here and harm us once again, (That's the excuse anyway) sometimes one has to go far away to keep something out of their front yards, before it's too late.

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When did I ever say I put dogs before humans? You should once again get your facts straight doc. You've shown that you are not much of an animal person, that's fine and your right to be so. But your insecurities don't need to be thrown at others with your unkind name calling and often inaccurate words.

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That same action used in our Country could have benefited us... but no, you took action some place else, on dogs...
Ok, ok I understand. You don't like dogs much. Since I have done some things to help dogs, I guess I'm a unpatriotic citizen then. I guess I should have been a Marine, because according to you, that gives me a right to be critical, otherwise even though this is America, I guess I don't have that right by you, only you do? Maybe I should be more like you and just rant on forums/blogs or like some, sit in the corner bar and bitch about how bad it is, and do nothing to change anything. I try and do things that will help bring change, but until the masses of asses stand up to help, not much change will happen.

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Yep I get it now. I was told by many to avoid a lot of these forums and blogs because some people on them like to show how smart, or how tough (or how stupid) they are behind their little keyboards. I was told that they are NEVER wrong and will argue about if the sun came up this morning, just to argue and always get the last word in. lol I guess they were correct. It's too bad that a few fuck things up for the masses, but I guess that is what happens with most things. Don't forget to get the last word in now.

The forthcoming thoughtful, intelligent, meaningful, responses/replies to my post will back up my thoughts above. *smile*

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Unless you don't eat any regular beef or chicken you can't really say much imo.

Sad yes, but a diffrent culture.
Exactly. Plus, the treatment of cows and chicken as they are "processed" isn't too pretty either...
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Never mentioned anything about a petition. Never said I don't like China, never said it was a shit-hole. I said I hope they don't bring two things over with them, skinning dogs alive and kidnapping children...period.
I got you and the thread starter twisted... however, thinking they are bringing these things is crazy, that cruelty to animals and kidnappings are rather extreme here.



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Just because something isn't happening in my front yard, doesn't mean one should not care. You say you were a Marine, I guess you would have only gone to war if it was in this country then. Seems this country is in 2 wars right now so that the bad guys don't come back here and harm us once again, (That's the excuse anyway) sometimes one has to go far away to keep something out of their front yards, before it's too late.
Marines can't fight on American soil.

One war was illegal... the other isn't really a war.



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When did I ever say I put dogs before humans? You should once again get your facts straight doc. You've shown that you are not much of an animal person, that's fine and your right to be so. But your insecurities don't need to be thrown at others with your unkind name calling and often inaccurate words.
Confused with org poster of thread, again.



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Ok, ok I understand. You don't like dogs much. Since I have done some things to help dogs, I guess I'm a unpatriotic citizen then. I guess I should have been a Marine, because according to you, that gives me a right to be critical, otherwise even though this is America, I guess I don't have that right by you, only you do? Maybe I should be more like you and just rant on forums/blogs or like some, sit in the corner bar and bitch about how bad it is, and do nothing to change anything. I try and do things that will help bring change, but until the masses of asses stand up to help, not much change will happen.
I don't give a shit how a bad it is... that wasn't the point.

When others pretend to be caring and willing to give us so much for Dogs or fight for peoples rights in other Countries, when our own Country needs that attention, to the extreme, from animals to people, to all kinds of shit...


It makes me puke, that was my point.



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Yep I get it now. I was told by many to avoid a lot of these forums and blogs because some people on them like to show how smart, or how tough (or how stupid) they are behind their little keyboards. I was told that they are NEVER wrong and will argue about if the sun came up this morning, just to argue and always get the last word in. lol I guess they were correct. It's too bad that a few fuck things up for the masses, but I guess that is what happens with most things. Don't forget to get the last word in now.

The forthcoming thoughtful, intelligent, meaningful, responses/replies to my post will back up my thoughts above. *smile*

Get it yet?
Even though I got ya mixed up..

If you can't hack a forum called Go Fuck Yourself with people talking about a strong subject and not get all butt hurt about it.... then I have to,

As ass hole on a board called Go Fuck Yourself... I don't need the last word but I will take it.
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I can't click those links and watch. I can just imagine how disturbing it would be to watch.
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Hmm... I am not sure if that animals were skinned alive or not because the quality of the videos is not that high... though, I would say that they were not treating them right. But there is not much we can do about it.
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i dont think some of American better than them ,it is a troditional to eat animals flesh in the world for thousands years all over the world.Victoria also wear fur clothes in public.
American consume great amount of beef and chichken ,and piles up many they dont eat to import to China,it is also very bloody.
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Once a Marine, always a Marine... and I'm a Vet, my job is never done.





I got you and the thread starter twisted... however, thinking they are bringing these things is crazy, that cruelty to animals and kidnappings are rather extreme here.





Marines can't fight on American soil.

One war was illegal... the other isn't really a war.





Confused with org poster of thread, again.





I don't give a shit how a bad it is... that wasn't the point.

When others pretend to be caring and willing to give us so much for Dogs or fight for peoples rights in other Countries, when our own Country needs that attention, to the extreme, from animals to people, to all kinds of shit...


It makes me puke, that was my point.





Even though I got ya mixed up..

If you can't hack a forum called Go Fuck Yourself with people talking about a strong subject and not get all butt hurt about it.... then I have to,

As ass hole on a board called Go Fuck Yourself... I don't need the last word but I will take it.

It's got nothing to do with getting one's "butt hurt," it's just all of the incorrect "facts" and BS that is thrown around so loosely, and then when someone tries to get it straight, there is always some "tough guy" hiding behind his keyboard popping off. No one is accountable for anything, just throw some shit out there, and it is what it is.

It makes me puke that some people don't think our pets have basic rights in this country. I'd like to say I'm sorry that I make you puke because I help animals...but I'm not. Maybe if every single one of us Americans took up a cause to help others in need, INCLUDING pets, then this country would be a hell of a lot better place. But 95% of people just talk/blog/rant and do nothing in reality to change anything.

I know that this board is called Go Fuck Yourself, but I'm not mixed up..
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i have a friend in the Philippines they have dog and beer like twice a month i guess it's like anything else chickens and cows i guess are fair game
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It's got nothing to do with getting one's "butt hurt," it's just all of the incorrect "facts" and BS that is thrown around so loosely, and then when someone tries to get it straight, there is always some "tough guy" hiding behind his keyboard popping off. No one is accountable for anything, just throw some shit out there, and it is what it is.

It makes me puke that some people don't think our pets have basic rights in this country. I'd like to say I'm sorry that I make you puke because I help animals...but I'm not. Maybe if every single one of us Americans took up a cause to help others in need, INCLUDING pets, then this country would be a hell of a lot better place. But 95% of people just talk/blog/rant and do nothing in reality to change anything.

I know that this board is called Go Fuck Yourself, but I'm not mixed up..
Well.. umm, most people catch on pretty quickly that it's a miss quote.. when the entire thing references topics that you never brought up in the thread. Others don't normally argue information that they can't relate to....


Moving on,

Basic rights, like Gun ownership, Freedom of choice, Freedom of speech?

Maybe we should share your wife (or you) with some Arab tribes, maybe experience what it is to have no basic rights, forced to have her gentles cut off, then come back and tell me about how bad it was for animals when she wishes she were dead from being treated like like dirt, not even human and used as beaten meat for dirty men to father endless babies.

Freaking basic rights..... please.

I understand animals need protection, from illegal hunting/trapping, that crap to abused domesticated animals. People doing screwed up shit to animals deserve whatever they get.


They eat the damn cat/dog in China, so personally I don't care. Plenty of people feel they should save you too, feel that you are abused or abusing.. raping even. Sure is an odd thing when the Adult Industry people inject moral values into life when they lack the most basic values that most of the World would kill/jail/stone you over.
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this guy watches a show on television and all the sudden he's a fucking expert casting himself as a humanitarian all the while hypocritically pointing his finger at the degenerates who can't admit being wrong & hang out on message boards.

It's morons like you that make some of us wonder how you could possibly get along in life? Maybe you don't, and need this pretend blogworld to make yourself a cyber big shot. Making a stupid comment like all of the things I have done, and have knowledge about, center around one TV show, shows how truly ignorant you really are. I could go on, but you're like shooting ducks in a barrel. And I told you, until you take your diarrhea medicine, that flow of shit will just continue to pour out of your big mouth.
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Well.. umm, most people catch on pretty quickly that it's a miss quote.. when the entire thing references topics that you never brought up in the thread. Others don't normally argue information that they can't relate to....
That's odd because I came into this thread quoting you from something you wrote that wasn't about dogs being skinned alive, which is what the thread was about I thought? In my short time around here, I've noticed threads get "off topic" all of the time.

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Moving on,

Basic rights, like Gun ownership, Freedom of choice, Freedom of speech?

Maybe we should share your wife (or you) with some Arab tribes, maybe experience what it is to have no basic rights, forced to have her gentles cut off, then come back and tell me about how bad it was for animals when she wishes she were dead from being treated like like dirt, not even human and used as beaten meat for dirty men to father endless babies.

Freaking basic rights..... please.

I understand animals need protection, from illegal hunting/trapping, that crap to abused domesticated animals. People doing screwed up shit to animals deserve whatever they get.


They eat the damn cat/dog in China, so personally I don't care. Plenty of people feel they should save you too, feel that you are abused or abusing.. raping even. Sure is an odd thing when the Adult Industry people inject moral values into life when they lack the most basic values that most of the World would kill/jail/stone you over.
"Freaking basic rights...please." I guess that means that since some people are being abused by Arab tribes, that means that no one else like dogs have any basic rights and until that human problem is resolved, nothing else should be helped/corrected? That makes no sense, none.
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That's odd because I came into this thread quoting you from something you wrote that wasn't about dogs being skinned alive, which is what the thread was about I thought? In my short time around here, I've noticed threads get "off topic" all of the time.
Oh, it's not about the 3rd or 4th post on the 3rd page of a thread.. normally it's about the first post.

Most threads never stay on topic here, often you will see 2-4+ conversations going off in one post, sometimes shit gets twisted.


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"Freaking basic rights...please." I guess that means that since some people are being abused by Arab tribes, that means that no one else like dogs have any basic rights and until that human problem is resolved, nothing else should be helped/corrected? That makes no sense, none.

Even if the human problem(s) are solved, animals simply need to be protected, they don't need any basic rights even if they had them, they couldn't use them. That's why they're animals.
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I should warning you, this is very disturbing, but someone has to help them. There are some organizations fighting for China to create some laws in order to protect these animals.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7Gx8qFYhdbo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ew1cLstv3ew

There are tons of videos, just can't watch them

It's so sad.
Factory farms are never pretty. Killing any animal isn't a nice sight. In the end these people probably want others to stop eating meat. Different cultures eat different things. If they are only commenting on the treatment of the animals then I agree it is horrible. Their right to eat whatever meat they chose is something worth fighting for though.

On a side note... I got a kick out of that really fat cat looking at all those cat skins. It was kind of ironic in a very strange way.
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