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Old 01-28-2010, 11:34 AM   #51
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:38 AM   #52
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it's not a debate.

i said those of us able to work should be working, not bitching about what the government hasn't done for us.

again, suit yourself but seriously, 12.5% unemployment here in cali has nothing to do with YOU assuming responsibility for yourself.

it's clear this country is filled with people that view the current situation like you do- they feel helpless in their own lives because they expect a broken government to fix their situation.

anyhoo, good luck to you, i like you.
It isn't about what the government hasn't done for us, it's about what the government has done TO us!

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:50 AM   #53
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LOL< maybe a little, In the old way old days, people heard about politics from the newspaper, then the TV with most with an opinion on the news were democrats backing a more central of even leftest approach. It's funny to me that we got Rush Limbaugh and others on the airwave, they got more people angry than any other news source. Now we have Fox and I hear all the bitching about how crazy they are, or polished or god fearing right wing war mongers, they bring a different view and have become the number one news source on cable. People are pissed off and the president didn't seem to see a problem with his agenda till Brown took a Kennedy seat. We get news fast now and with different veiws. The independant voters are growing because of this balance I believe thats the best thing that could happen.
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:59 AM   #54
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The gop didn't want a government take over of healthcare, it's against the 10th amendent and it's not the Doctors I talked to wanted
Speaking of the 10th amendment if the GOP listened to the people, we would have national health care.

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here's what he said---Let each bill pass or fail on its own merits?no pork , no pay
You got your quotes mixed up....

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I'm expecting him to keep to his word, he could have proved it, but instead did deals behind the door away from C-Span, something again he promised not to do
Ah, you're expecting him. Well, no president in history has kept every promise. They may want to, but many reasons stop them.

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He could have worked with the GOP, he could have kept to his word of no pork, he could have let C-Span in like he promised, but refused, these are simple things that was a promise that he made to state he was different and got him elected
The GOP isn't even trying to work with Obama, a couple people might be, the majority reject 99% of everything he wants to do.

Yep, different states need different thing and they get paid in pork... Republicans know about pork better than just about anyone, so I'm not really sure why they're going so crazy.... hell many even got some, but yet bitch about it.

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I havn't seen a direction change yet, just more promises, we'll see, but the healthcare bill he was pushing down everyone throat was wrong
I have... lots of us have, the country is clearly turning around. The attitude of Americans is changing, jobs for educated is holding, so many factors showing direction change.

Hell, he tried to take us more social than we already are, talk about a direction change... and you guys went nuts.

A dem's view of change, is never going to align with yours... so you're dreaming if you think you're going to see change.

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I'm all for gays serving in the military, why shouldn't they? Just tired of a president that has no service experience making changes in the military.
Ohh... I guess I don't care that Clinton didn't have experience, the law was a good thing for the time so making the next progressive step to me just seems natural, hell it's been 17 years - it's about time the Military gets with the program.
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