RE: WebmasterChecks and Epass & Wires situation: - GoFuckYourself.com

Kirby · 04-22-2010, 08:00 AM

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For ePassporte payments: We?ve been told by www.WebmasterChecks.com that our money was already sent to ePassporte so those payments should be released in the next 48 hours. If this does not happen we will be issuing payments from our new Business ePassporte account as soon as they post the funds we have already sent to load the account which should be by 4/30/2010.

For wire transfers: As soon as we have moved funds to the appropriate accounts we will be issuing wires directly to webmasters. We expect to have all wires sent by 4/30/2010 but please do keep in mind some international wires do take more time to hit.

I guess the whole mess does interfere with not only with checks, but with epass and wires too.

Fat Panda · 04-22-2010, 08:47 AM

Fucking bam comes the hammer...

Kirby · 04-22-2010, 08:47 AM

i'm not liking the whole thing
i though it was only about checks

P.S.
Keep in mind that the original quoted emil was from one of the sponsors.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 08:50 AM

One thing is for sure, if there is a way to fuck an affiliate a sponsor or his processor is going to come up with it

They probably figured a way to collect a few days extra interest on holding accounts.

GrouchyAdmin · 04-22-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut

One thing is for sure, if there is a way to fuck an affiliate a sponsor or his processor is going to come up with it

They probably figured a way to collect a few days extra interest on holding accounts.

Yeah, that's completely it. They weren't making money doing the transactions so they decided to entirely ruin their business model by trying to fuck you out of six cents.

Asshole.

Kirby · 04-22-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut

One thing is for sure, if there is a way to fuck an affiliate a sponsor or his processor is going to come up with it

They probably figured a way to collect a few days extra interest on holding accounts.

What i'm afraid of is that some sponsors could say: "we haven't gotten any mones from WebmasterChecks so you are shit out of luck too. Too bad, so sad."

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Yeah, that's completely it. They weren't making money doing the transactions so they decided to entirely ruin their business model by trying to fuck you out of six cents.

Asshole.

You know, I realize you either run your own site, or your just an Uncle Tom for Sponsors, but it's like this, DON'T WRITE A CHECK WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT YOUR ASS CAN'T CASH!

Why the fuck does it matter what the excuses are? What's my bonus for waiting for my money for you? Dont' you have rules that I can't use your content to promote guys who actually pay on time. Tell me why my heart should bleed, please I'm all ears.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

What i'm afraid of is that some sponsors could say: "we haven't gotten any mones from WebmasterChecks so you are shit out of luck too. Too bad, so sad."

Believe me there are people who always pay on time and that's why it's so hard to convert them. Everyone wants to promote those guys and the competition is fierce!

Redfield · 04-22-2010, 09:04 AM

fuck brazzers

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Yeah, that's completely it. They weren't making money doing the transactions so they decided to entirely ruin their business model by trying to fuck you out of six cents.

Asshole.

Also who the fuck do you speak for so I can break all their rules on this end? Really I'm running some tests right now and I need some cannon fodder. Help me out here and I'll owe you.

GrouchyAdmin · 04-22-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut

You know, I realize you either run your own site, or your just an Uncle Tom for Sponsors, but it's like this, DON'T WRITE A CHECK WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT YOUR ASS CAN'T CASH!

Look at how stupid you are. The sponsors ALREADY PAID to cut your money, and those funds are being held against their will, too. I'm sure they love having hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting there while the DoJ decides whether or not to give them back. It's hardly the sponsor's fault any more than when another goddamn iBill happens and both sides get fucked.

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Originally Posted by smutnut

Why the fuck does it matter what the excuses are? What's my bonus for waiting for my money for you? Dont' you have rules that I can't use your content to promote guys who actually pay on time. Tell me why my heart should bleed, please I'm all ears.

So now you want a bonus to crawl back into your fucking hugbox from a sponsor who is already out of the money and willing to take a shot in the mouth just to get you paid? You've been a little inconvenienced because someone's assets got seized, and you're bitching that you want repartitions because of it?

Start a class action lawsuit because your check didn't show up on time (of which, virtually every sponsor makes you acknowledge is not their issue if a third party is unable to pay on time due to technical, or other issues before you sign up to promote them), or better yet, just fucking kill yourself and save some oxygen for people who deserve it.

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Originally Posted by smutnut

Also who the fuck do you speak for so I can break all their rules on this end? Really I'm running some tests right now and I need some cannon fodder. Help me out here and I'll owe you.

What the fuck does this even mean? Start taking your lithium again; you're wacked enough when you're on it.

Serge Litehead · 04-22-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

i'm not liking the whole thing
i though it was only about checks

P.S.
Keep in mind that the original quoted emil was from one of the sponsors.

if accounts were seized by DoJ, isn't it logical that it will effect not only checks? if some money were moved to epass, then those funds more or less safe and will be sent out.

For people saying "wheres my money and bonus for waiting" - although its very understandable, but its obvious some sponsors may have extra reserves and will cover at least their payments, others maybe out of luck and will be fucked same as their affiliates until this thing not resolved by WMC and DOJ if ever. what can anyone do? - and yes, its fucked up situation

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

So now you want a bonus to crawl back into your fucking hugbox from a sponsor who is already out of the money and willing to take a shot in the mouth just to get you paid? You've been a little inconvenienced because someone's assets got seized, and you're bitching that you want repartitions because of it?

Start a class action lawsuit because your check didn't show up on time (of which, virtually every sponsor makes you acknowledge is not their issue if a third party is unable to pay on time due to technical, or other issues before you sign up to promote them), or better yet, just fucking kill yourself and save some oxygen for people who deserve it.

What the fuck does this even mean? Start taking your lithium again; you're wacked enough when you're on it.

Dude, you sound like a fucking moron. From your perspective there shouldn't be any trust anywhere.

First it's the six cents thing, meaning your so little you shouldn't care.

Next, it's not their fault cause it's some third party's problem.

You should just get the fuck out of this business before affiliates revolt and torch your fucking ass alive. I don't care if you're affiliated with this forum or what.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Look at how stupid you are. The sponsors ALREADY PAID to cut your money, and those funds are being held against their will, too. I'm sure they love having hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting there while the DoJ decides whether or not to give them back. It's hardly the sponsor's fault any more than when another goddamn iBill happens and both sides get fucked.

So now you want a bonus to crawl back into your fucking hugbox from a sponsor who is already out of the money and willing to take a shot in the mouth just to get you paid? You've been a little inconvenienced because someone's assets got seized, and you're bitching that you want repartitions because of it?

Start a class action lawsuit because your check didn't show up on time (of which, virtually every sponsor makes you acknowledge is not their issue if a third party is unable to pay on time due to technical, or other issues before you sign up to promote them), or better yet, just fucking kill yourself and save some oxygen for people who deserve it.

What the fuck does this even mean? Start taking your lithium again; you're wacked enough when you're on it.

All i hope and pray is you get fucked in this even if no one else does.

In fact any sponsor who will fuck you can keep my payouts just to see how full of shit you are!

martinsc · 04-22-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Look at how stupid you are. The sponsors ALREADY PAID to cut your money, and those funds are being held against their will, too. I'm sure they love having hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting there while the DoJ decides whether or not to give them back. It's hardly the sponsor's fault any more than when another goddamn iBill happens and both sides get fucked.

So now you want a bonus to crawl back into your fucking hugbox from a sponsor who is already out of the money and willing to take a shot in the mouth just to get you paid? You've been a little inconvenienced because someone's assets got seized, and you're bitching that you want repartitions because of it?

Start a class action lawsuit because your check didn't show up on time (of which, virtually every sponsor makes you acknowledge is not their issue if a third party is unable to pay on time due to technical, or other issues before you sign up to promote them), or better yet, just fucking kill yourself and save some oxygen for people who deserve it.

What the fuck does this even mean? Start taking your lithium again; you're wacked enough when you're on it.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:19 AM

Any sponsor who wants to fuck their affiliates and doesn't jump on this entire ACT OF GOD is just a fucking asshole!

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Look at how stupid you are. The sponsors ALREADY PAID to cut your money, and those funds are being held against their will, too. I'm sure they love having hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting there while the DoJ decides whether or not to give them back. It's hardly the sponsor's fault any more than when another goddamn iBill happens and both sides get fucked.

So now you want a bonus to crawl back into your fucking hugbox from a sponsor who is already out of the money and willing to take a shot in the mouth just to get you paid? You've been a little inconvenienced because someone's assets got seized, and you're bitching that you want repartitions because of it?

Start a class action lawsuit because your check didn't show up on time (of which, virtually every sponsor makes you acknowledge is not their issue if a third party is unable to pay on time due to technical, or other issues before you sign up to promote them), or better yet, just fucking kill yourself and save some oxygen for people who deserve it.

What the fuck does this even mean? Start taking your lithium again; you're wacked enough when you're on it.

Do you work for these guys http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...1#post17063444 ? Just curious

count of monte cristo · 04-22-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by holograph

if accounts were seized by DoJ, isn't it logical that it will effect not only checks? if some money were moved to epass, then those funds more or less safe and will be sent out.

i always figured epassporte would be the riskiest place to hold your money, i bet they kept as little as possible in there unless they needed to send it out

there is a reason ccbill doesnt work with epass despite hundreds of people asking about it

GrouchyAdmin · 04-22-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut

Dude, you sound like a fucking moron. From your perspective there shouldn't be any trust anywhere.

First it's the six cents thing, meaning your so little you shouldn't care.

Next, it's not their fault cause it's some third party's problem.

You should just get the fuck out of this business before affiliates revolt and torch your fucking ass alive. I don't care if you're affiliated with this forum or what.

Again, with your crazy schizophrenic mind..

1) No, I'm not saying you're little, after all, I'm sure every whore you've paid for has said you are a good size. I'm saying you're asking for even more than you are owed by someone who has nothing to do with the problem at hand.

Here's a childhood analogy which is pretty close to what's going on hand, and you should be able to understand it: If we're playing catch with a new ball I gave you, and your big old mean brother takes your ball away, I have no reason to go and buy you another ball because someone else took it and is currently playing 'keep away from the dork'.

2) Exactly. Every sponsor I see IS trying to make it right - at their own expense, as quickly as possible, yet you're still whining that you want more than what you deserve, and that getting what was promised to you not good enough. This is why I personally am calling you an asshole.

3) Sorry, buddy, I have not seen one affiliate yet who has any traffic to speak of who has definitively decided they're going 100% back to CCBill only because their checks are going to be a couple days late. Shit happens. After all, you're here.

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Originally Posted by smutnut

Do you work for these guys http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...1#post17063444 ? Just curious

Never heard of them before, sorry. I'd love to see the diagram you're drawing on the wall with crayon trying to tie me to them and 9/11, though.

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Originally Posted by smutnut

Any sponsor who wants to fuck their affiliates and doesn't jump on this entire ACT OF GOD is just a fucking asshole!

If they've been paying with WMC for years, I think they may have a very justifiable "Sorry, your shit will be late." response.

Until later my skitzoid pal - toodles, I have work to do.

BestXXXPorn · 04-22-2010, 09:34 AM

Serge Litehead · 04-22-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by count of monte cristo

i always figured epassporte would be the riskiest place to hold your money, i bet they kept as little as possible in there unless they needed to send it out

there is a reason ccbill doesnt work with epass despite hundreds of people asking about it

I understand what you're saying. I was elaborating on the quote in OP that WMC did their checks, epass and wires payouts. that mail said the epass payments will be made in next 48hrs - which means DOJ didn't seize WMC's epass accounts - that's why i said those funds more or less safe, it seems.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Again, with your crazy schizophrenic mind..

1) No, I'm not saying you're little, after all, I'm sure every whore you've paid for has said you are a good size. I'm saying you're asking for even more than you are owed by someone who has nothing to do with the problem at hand.

Here's a childhood analogy which is pretty close to what's going on hand, and you should be able to understand it: If we're playing catch with a new ball I gave you, and your big old mean brother takes your ball away, I have no reason to go and buy you another ball because someone else took it and is currently playing 'keep away from the dork'.

2) Exactly. Every sponsor I see IS trying to make it right - at their own expense, as quickly as possible, yet you're still whining that you want more than what you deserve, and that getting what was promised to you not good enough. This is why I personally am calling you an asshole.

3) Sorry, buddy, I have not seen one affiliate yet who has any traffic to speak of who has definitively decided they're going 100% back to CCBill only because their checks are going to be a couple days late. Shit happens. After all, you're here.

Never heard of them before, sorry. I'd love to see the diagram you're drawing on the wall with crayon trying to tie me to them and 9/11, though.

If they've been paying with WMC for years, I think they may have a very justifiable "Sorry, your shit will be late." response.

Until later my skitzoid pal - toodles, I have work to do.

Whatever, dude. There is no reason to work if you're not going to get paid and it basically comes down to weeding out which sponsors will pay and which won't, and and which convert and which don't, and that's your work.

Traffic Leaks (non payers and non converters) to be replaced by (sponsors who convert and pay). You go jerk off to all your excuses!

Sly · 04-22-2010, 09:42 AM

This is a very bizarre thread.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:44 AM

Here's something, if you don't get paid use the content of the people you aren't getting paid from that converts for another sponsor who actually pays and converts and then see if things don't straighten out right fast.

I'd love to see this acted upon in court.

count of monte cristo · 04-22-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by holograph

I understand what you're saying. I was elaborating on the quote in OP that WMC did their checks, epass and wires payouts. that mail said the epass payments will be made in next 48hrs - which means DOJ didn't seize WMC's epass accounts - that's why i said those funds more or less safe, it seems.

ahh, i missed that, if epass is already on its way being sent out, then great, i hope the payees get them

Serge Litehead · 04-22-2010, 09:47 AM

smutnut then go to court and demand your payments that way. whats stopping you? for now whole thing is very early in development to say and predict anything other then whats been posted already

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by holograph

smutnut then go to court and demand your payments that way. whats stopping you? for now whole thing is very early in development to say and predict anything other then whats been posted already

Are you fucking high? Let them pay my court fees. They are the ones fucking up.

Serge Litehead · 04-22-2010, 09:53 AM

i'm reasonable, logical and fair, you seemed to be uneasy.. trust me i know the feeling when payments get out of schedule or completely abandoned.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by holograph

i'm reasonable, logical and fair, you seemed to be uneasy.. trust me i know the feeling when payments get out of schedule or completely abandoned.

So reasonable aside, you only have to pay for court if you lose or if you start the proceedings. Otherwise it's on them and good luck with this!

Serge Litehead · 04-22-2010, 10:07 AM

smutnut, who is your beef with exactly? does it relate to WMC issue? what the party you have beef with said in regard to your concerns? or you just stirring shit for no reason?

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by holograph

smutnut, who is your beef with exactly? does it relate to WMC issue? what the party you have beef with said in regard to your concerns? or you just stirring shit for no reason?

I'm part of the affiliate collective consciousness. You hurt one of us, you hurt us all!

But seriously this business can't survive without my attitude. I'm not wasting my time and my bandwidth for nothing.

Pay up or check out is my attitude and let me keep your content to promote others.

P.S. I have a network. I do convert and there are Sponsors who are the reason I do convert. I don't need these fucking traffic leaks fucking me up and if you don't pay you're a traffic leak even if you convert.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 11:01 AM

I'm sitting here listening to the rock and roll hall of fame after putting a check in the bank from CC Bill. See someone pays. I used to hate CC Bill sponsors but now I say always use them if you can.

RyuLion · 04-22-2010, 11:06 AM

Wizzo · 04-22-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

I guess the whole mess does interfere with not only with checks, but with epass and wires too.

Kinda tough to send wires with your bank acct seized...

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

Kinda tough to send wires with your bank acct seized...

Yeah, but don't worry cause guys like GrouchyAdmin are 100% behind people with their cocks buried deep up inside the deepest pits of your asshole!

hypedough · 04-22-2010, 11:42 AM

This is bad situation for all involved, hopefully WMC survives this and keeps on trucking. If not, there will be more people using Intuit's check system and a lot less companies offering wire payments.

smutnut · 04-22-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough

This is bad situation for all involved, hopefully WMC survives this and keeps on trucking. If not, there will be more people using Intuit's check system and a lot less companies offering wire payments.

In the long run could be good for business cause might eliminate the self proclaimed elite though, right?

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