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Old 08-09-2010, 05:18 PM   #51
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marriage in general should be outlawed.
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Religion is all a bit of a joke anyway and marriage is in the eyes of God, how come the ancient Greeks used to have a male / male relationship before having a male / female one ? and some still kept the male / male relationship up even after so called marriage...

As for Pakistanis and Arabs hell the one's I have met don't give a shit what they shag, there may well be exceptions to rule, but just speaking as I find and not being raciest here at all...

I just see all things covered in hypocrisy.... same sex marriage what's the big deal all it is, is a bit of paper at the end of the day now anyway, live with the same person for a while at least in the UK you have the same rights as if you were married...

I think there is much more globally important things at stake here than governments being concerned about who the fuck marries who... Live and let live, hell with all this political correctness bullshit in the past 5 years or so are the government's not guilty of being politically incorrect themselves for not allowing same sex marriage ?
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Old 08-09-2010, 06:00 PM   #53
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They want the title, not the rights and until I see that they would be happy with the rights, I will not be convinced otherwise
It's not a title...it's a word.
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who cares, let them marry and be miserable like the rest of us
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The amount of effort they've launched in "defending their title" is just idiotic.


It's just another fucking label in a long list of labels. Anyone that gets attached to a label or is using one to define themselves or justify their self-worth (reason for living), then they've got much deeper problems than a couple of gay people getting "married".


Keep your labels. I reject them.
That's your opinion about the title, some, 7 million think differently
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I'll chalk this up to you not hanging out with any gay people...I'm friends with some very outspoken gay rights advocates and that is exactly what many of them are doing...wanting the rights...the reason they have to use that title is there is not other title available for that...


I love how a lot of right wingers (not you specifically, but many) want the government out of their lives, but want it in the lives of gay people....they complain about gays ramming their views down there throats, but why is it ok for heteros to ram their lifestyle down the throats of gays? For the record, I don't care if you answer this question or not, it's not directed right at you, but rather a rhetorical question...
I've been around plenty of gay people, I have an old friend that I have known for almost 30 years and she's gay.
Point being, if it's just about rights, then change the rights included with having a civil union, this not only satisfies what the gay community is asking for, but it shows respect for what others believe. Isn't respect something they want too?

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It's not a title...it's a word.
You have never asked if someone is married? People get the title of married when they are married, it's on your tax form
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Old 08-09-2010, 06:20 PM   #56
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I'm for it. Marriage is pretty much a joke now-a-days. What is it with people getting married 2,3,4 fucking times?? Since they are changing the law, they should throw in there you get one chance at marriage, if it fails, tuff shit. Maybe people who decide to get married after knowing someone only 3 weeks might think it through a little bit.
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That's your opinion about the title, some, 7 million think differently
Yep. That's my opinion. And I don't give a fuck what 7 million other people think. (about anything)
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Yep. That's my opinion. And I don't give a fuck what 7 million other people think. (about anything)
and apparently, the court doesn't either
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You have never asked if someone is married? People get the title of married when they are married, it's on your tax form
It's a word and no one owns it. Some people try to make it "theirs"...but really it belongs to everyone...it's not a title. There aren't quota's on it. It's a word that describes a relationship.

If you want a "title" pronounce" yourself the Queen of Sheba. Now that's a title.
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and apparently, the court doesn't either
Good for them. (I don't really care what the court thinks either though) (about anything)
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Yep. That's my opinion. And I don't give a fuck what 7 million other people think. (about anything)
well approx 7 million Muslims want to kill you.... might wanna give a fuck about that
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well approx 7 million Muslims want to kill you.... might wanna give a fuck about that
and why pray tell should I give a fuck about that?
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It's a word and no one owns it. Some people try to make it "theirs"...but really it belongs to everyone...it's not a title. There aren't quota's on it. It's a word that describes a relationship.

If you want a "title" pronounce" yourself the Queen of Sheba. Now that's a title.
Maybe you pronouce yourself as the Queen of Sheba, but I don't

why do you call a married woman Mrs and a single woman Miss?
it puts someone in a different group, like "all the married people"
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well approx 7 million Muslims want to kill you.... might wanna give a fuck about that
what kind of Bull Shit is that?
you think that there are 7 million extremist out there? Most Muslims are very peaceful people
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Religion is all a bit of a joke anyway and marriage is in the eyes of God, how come the ancient Greeks used to have a male / male relationship before having a male / female one ? and some still kept the male / male relationship up even after so called marriage...
Religion is a joke to you maybe. Atheism is a joke to me. Let's believe in people! And the ancient Greeks and other civilizations married women, while having sex with men, so your example isn't even applicable.


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I just see all things covered in hypocrisy.... same sex marriage what's the big deal all it is, is a bit of paper at the end of the day now anyway, live with the same person for a while at least in the UK you have the same rights as if you were married...
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It's a word and no one owns it. Some people try to make it "theirs"...but really it belongs to everyone...it's not a title. There aren't quota's on it. It's a word that describes a relationship.

If you want a "title" pronounce" yourself the Queen of Sheba. Now that's a title.
It's a word that happened to describe a heterosexual relationship for thousands of years, with REALLY NOTABLE exceptions. Try again.

And ignore Amputate's simple minded isolationist attitude. "If it doesn't involve me I don't care!!!"
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It's a word that happened to describe a heterosexual relationship for thousands of years, with REALLY NOTABLE exceptions. Try again.

And ignore Amputate's simple minded isolationist attitude. "If it doesn't involve me I don't care!!!"
You got a problem with isolationists?
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I thought I was pretty clear on that...
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I thought I was pretty clear on that...
Just double-checking.
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I feel homosexuality is wrong, but I'm not a 'gay basher' nor am I going to go out there and tell other people how to live their lives. I know gay people and have never once said negative comments towards them about their lifestyle. What they do behind closed doors is their fucking business, as long as they don't do that shit around me; I'm neither for or against it.
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I feel homosexuality is wrong, but I'm not an 'gay basher' nor am I going to go out there and tell other people how to live their lives. I know gay people and have never once said negative comments towards them about their lifestyle. What they do behind closed doors is their fucking business, as long as they don't do that shit around me; I'm neither for or against it.
Someone will still call you a bigot.
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I feel homosexuality is wrong, but when I'm not an 'gay basher'. I know gay people and have never once said negative comments towards them about their lifestyle. What they do behind closed doors is their fucking business, as long as they don't do that shit around me; I'm neither for or against it.
I feel religion is wrong, but gay people don't knock on my front door on Sunday while I'm eating dinner. Mormons & christians do. Hence, the new sign out front: "No Jesus Freaks. Insurance Solicitors Welcome."
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against... marriage is by definition between a man and woman, and also religious.
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I'm for gay marriage, but whenever I see gay couples with children, I always feel sorry for the children. Although gay couples would argue otherwise, I believe they raise their children in an environment which influences and confuses the child's biological instinctive sexual preference.
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I feel religion is wrong, but gay people don't knock on my front door on Sunday while I'm eating dinner. Mormons & christians do. Hence, the new sign out front: "No Jesus Freaks. Insurance Solicitors Welcome."
Funny how you equate all religious people to "jesus freaks". Man I'm glad I'm not a dumb atheist.
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Funny how you equate all religious people to "jesus freaks". Man I'm glad I'm not a dumb atheist.
I'm glad you aren't either. We have a rule about only letting in intelligent thinkers, not fairy tale worshippers.
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I'm glad you aren't either. We have a rule about only letting in intelligent thinkers, not fairy tale worshippers.
Nothing about you says "intelligent" or "thinker" so I'm glad I'm not in the dumb atheist group.
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Nothing about you says "intelligent" or "thinker" so I'm glad I'm not in the dumb atheist group.
I'm glad you aren't either.

Deja vu.
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Yup. Agreed. Now only if liberals would think the same thing about health care. Seems the left and right only care about individual rights when it suits them....
We are talking about the healthy people because if your sick and had no insurance because no one would cover you.Now you would be grateful. They get treated and then we all pay because they didn't want to buy insurance. What about the rights of the people having to pay more because of people that decided not to have insurance and couldnt pay the bill?
As far as gay marriage its funny smaller government is screamed but they want the government to make a law to stop two people who want to get married and whose actions don't effect these peoples lives one way or another.
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Against. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Though, call it a civil union or whatever and give them the same protections and legal rights.
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I think I need to get me a wife...

They are so much more useful.


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I'm glad you aren't either.

Deja vu.
...or a blip in the Matrix....
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Against. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Though, call it a civil union or whatever and give them the same protections and legal rights.
"hey, so I hear you got married!"

"well, sort of...I got civil union..ed."
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I feel homosexuality is wrong/QUOTE]


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I am in favour. I studied also Canadian codes. In the Canadian Income Tax code, spouses can be recorded as male+male or female+male or female+female.

I think they can do it as long as they don't bother anyone else.

Some people say marriage is done for purpose of raising children.

It is possible to adopt a child or take a child from an orphanage.
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why cant it be called something else gay marriage = partnering,gay union
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This thread is a brilliant way to build up a list of people I don't want to do business with.
You don't want to do business because people have different ideals than you and can back them up? You must get no business then.
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This thread is a brilliant way to build up a list of people I don't want to do business with.
That's fine with me. You don't want to do business with people because of their opinion on a highly controversial topic? Okay. That's a brilliant way to show your professionalism.

I'm not going to get into the debate, but I feel it IS wrong. However, like I said I don't show hatred nor do I express it towards any homosexuals. Just because I personally feel it's wrong doesn't mean I'm going to standout on the side of the road with a sign debasing homosexuals.

As for this thread is concerned, I'm indifferent. They can do as they please as long as it doesn't involve me, it doesn't bother me in the least bit. I think the morons fighting against gay marriage are fighting a useless battle, just let them be.
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:32 AM   #92
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As far as gay marriage its funny smaller government is screamed but they want the government to make a law to stop two people who want to get married and whose actions don't effect these peoples lives one way or another.
WOW, you got this a little backwards, it's the gay community that wants to change the law, it's the gay community that wants to change the meaning of the title Marriage.

Prop 8 was a vote from 2 years ago, the gay community is the one that's using a gay judge to get their way and change that vote.

And as far as a smaller government, we can't afford the one we have and if we loose our right to vote to SPECIAL INTEREST judges, then this is a system that's not working on two counts
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"hey, so I hear you got married!"

"well, sort of...I got civil union..ed."
So what's the name of the bride?
You mean the groom?
Wait, wouldn't you be the groom?
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I feel homosexuality is wrong. but I dont care..
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Prop 8 was a vote from 2 years ago, the gay community is the one that's using a gay judge to get their way and change that vote.
If a straight judge finds otherwise upon appeal is it valid for the gay community to discount his decision because he's straight?
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You don't want to do business because people have different ideals than you and can back them up? You must get no business then.
I don't want to do business with anyone who posts saying they think homosexuality is wrong.

I'm not taking on new clients at the moment because I am too busy.

Thanks for your interest though, appreciated.
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If a straight judge finds otherwise upon appeal is it valid for the gay community to discount his decision because he's straight?
It would be a start, that judge was biased and should have stepped down from the case
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I don't want to do business with anyone who posts saying they think homosexuality is wrong.

I'm not taking on new clients at the moment because I am too busy.

Thanks for your interest though, appreciated.
Again, that's plain stupid and I can totally understand if you don't get any clients at all by your simplistic understanding of business vs. personal..
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If a straight judge finds otherwise upon appeal is it valid for the gay community to discount his decision because he's straight?
"conflict of interest" do you understand that? hes gay at the center of the gay. using center and gay in the same sentence.
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