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CDSmith · 08-10-2010, 10:45 AM

Remember, there are no shotgun weddings in the gay community.

Food for thought.

Holly Lez! · 08-10-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Tarnishing doesn't justify how I feel about it, how I feel about it is that it changes the meaning of the word Marriage, if they change that, I'm ok with that, but to force it thru the courts does little to sway my opinion.

Social acceptance thru judicial force, yeah, love that.

You guys can go on and on about the Bible, about interracial marriage, about civil rights or about anything you want
To me, it's just a bunch of people using the courts to hijack a title when a civil union with the same benefits of a marriage would make everyone happy. 7 million people voted to keep that title the way it is, they voted twice and one gay judge throws it out?

Just waiting for some asshole to call me a homophobe, because thats all they can articulate

Always liked you but why do you care so much when you hetreos can marry anywhere and make a mockery out of marriage... and still use the word marriage..If you think I don't deserve the word marriage I say stop the reality shows about marriage, stop Vegas Marriages, stop Britney Spears likes and make them all civil unions

Holly Lez! · 08-10-2010, 11:09 AM

Couldn't say it better https://youtube.com/watch?v=dP_AGLI2FBM

CDSmith · 08-10-2010, 11:37 AM

There's the dictionary meaning of the world 'marriage' and then there's the real-world meaning. What with today's drive thru weddings and 5 minute faux chappel weddings and the like, the only thing quicker than the quickie wedding is the quickie divorce. Fact is the word all but lost all meaning a long time ago at the hands of us heteros.

And, can 7 million people be wrong? Absolutely.

Admittedly I'm more ambivalent about the issue than anything, but if pressed I'd have to say let them have their damn weddings already.

brassmonkey · 08-10-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Remember, there are no shotgun weddings in the gay community.

Food for thought.

um im thinking that's because there can't be children made with gay sex.

Chosen · 08-10-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I just don't care...

BettingHandle · 08-11-2010, 12:04 AM

For this reason I am against same sex relationships being defined as marriage, as I think it is dishonest to the terminology.

Emma · 08-12-2010, 01:48 AM

Against Same Sex Marriage - The Six Point Case

1.Natural marriage is the foundation of a civilized society.

2.Homosexual behavior is inherently destructive.

3.The law is a great teacher, and it encourages or discourages behavior.

4.Government-backed same-sex marriage would encourage and normalize homosexual behavior, and it would harm natural marriage, children, adults, and homosexuals themselves.

5.The law should promote behaviors that are beneficial and prohibit (or at least not endorse) those that are destructive.

6.Therefore, the law should promote natural marriage, and it should provide no option for government-backed same-sex marriage or civil unions.

AmeliaG · 08-12-2010, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

That's mighty bigoted of you. lol

But I suppose that if you were a lesbian (we'll keep this about women so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities) and the girl you have lived with and loved for 20 years and shared a home with...suddenly became very ill. Or was in a horrible car accident. And had to be put in the hospital and was near death...
And then you came to see the love of your life and was told you CAN'T because you aren't "family"

Well while the person you have shared your life lies in a room that you aren't allowed to go into and dies...you might be a little bit pissed about that.

I think this aspect of it really brings up some of the problems with healthcare in America. When you go to the hospital, you are not the customer; your insurer is the customer. So they will be happy to treat you like a prisoner and tell you who you can associate with and when. Do some medical tourism in Thailand and they are happy to upsell you a four star hotel room with your loved ones in it and a 24/7 nursing team if you want it and the whole thing will still cost less than in the US.

Re: the original topic, I don't think the government gets a say in marriage, only in civil unions period. Unfortunately, the government has been using the word marriage in laws for long enough that there is not really any way to stop it simply now. I'm genuinely baffled as to how anyone can oppose someone else's right to marry. I truly believe future generations will look at this the way current ones view the old miscegenation laws.

CDSmith · 08-12-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

um im thinking that's because there can't be children made with gay sex.

My wurd yur swift. :D

CDSmith · 08-12-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Against Same Sex Marriage - The Six Point Case

1.Natural marriage is the foundation of a civilized society.

2.Homosexual behavior is inherently destructive.

3.The law is a great teacher, and it encourages or discourages behavior.

4.Government-backed same-sex marriage would encourage and normalize homosexual behavior, and it would harm natural marriage, children, adults, and homosexuals themselves.

5.The law should promote behaviors that are beneficial and prohibit (or at least not endorse) those that are destructive.

6.Therefore, the law should promote natural marriage, and it should provide no option for government-backed same-sex marriage or civil unions.

I've read this before, or at least something very similar, and find it to be incredibly off base on so many points it's beyond stupid. Collectively the six points imply that "normal" people would be more tempted to "go gay" if the law were to legitimize gay behaviour by allowing same sex marriages. That's of course utterly boneheaded. It also, in point 4, basically says denying them a basic human right is for their own good. Again, pure bunk born of ignorance.

Allowing same sex marriage would not increase the gay population in any way. It wouldn't entice anyone to "go gay" who doesn't already have such tendencies. In fact to go with the above six is to basically say you believe gay people to be of a lesser quality human than yourself. Call me crazy but it sounds kind of bigoted to me.

Being gay is destructive to society? I don't see how. They've been around for thousands of years, pretty much as long as heteros have, give or take. I don't recall any societal collapse in history that was directly related to gays or their so-called destructive effect on humanity. In light of all that the six points come off as paranoid propaganda.

Therefore I must conclude the author of "the six" to be a narrrow-minded homophobe in the truest sense of the term. His or her reasoning is about as far from sound as it gets.

SykkBoy · 08-12-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

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2.Homosexual behavior is inherently destructive.

really? how so?

cwd · 08-12-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Collectively the six points imply that "normal" people would be more tempted to "go gay" if the law were to legitimize gay behaviour by allowing same sex marriages.

I know I have been waiting for same sex marriage so I can be gay! So exciting!

On that note, I also can't wait for the speed limit to be raised so I can drive faster...oh oh and for drugs to be legalized so I can try them...and...and...

cwd · 08-12-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Against Same Sex Marriage - The Six Point Case

1.Natural marriage is the foundation of a civilized society.

2.Homosexual behavior is inherently destructive.

3.The law is a great teacher, and it encourages or discourages behavior.

4.Government-backed same-sex marriage would encourage and normalize homosexual behavior, and it would harm natural marriage, children, adults, and homosexuals themselves.

5.The law should promote behaviors that are beneficial and prohibit (or at least not endorse) those that are destructive.

6.Therefore, the law should promote natural marriage, and it should provide no option for government-backed same-sex marriage or civil unions.

number 4. Same sex marriage would harm homosexuals? Interesting idea...

I would think that if you believe that marriage is the foundation of a civilized society then wouldn't divorce be the greatest threat? Rather than try and NOT allow same sex marriage, shouldn't you be trying to get rid of divorce?

CamJack · 08-12-2010, 09:25 AM

I am against same sex marriage.
No wait, I am against marriage.

Both should be illegal.

People of all walks of life should only be together for 2 years max

cwd · 08-12-2010, 09:45 AM

even Glenn Beck thinks gay marriage is ok

"Do you believe gay marriage is a threat to the country in any way?" O'Reilly asked.

"A threat to the country? No, I don't," Beck said, laughing, adding mockingly, "Will the gays come and get us?"

Beck quoted Thomas Jefferson: "If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?"

Tam · 08-12-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Pretty much.

If two people wish to be able to share the benefits of living together in a silent "Oh god I don't want to die alone" pact, I'm fine with that.

My feelings exactly.

I am of the mindset that the heart wants what it wants and if it is male/male, female/male, female/female, who am I to say that someone's heart is wrong. Who they share their time and bed with is of no business of mine.

The only thing, and I mean the only thing I have ever had issues with is the public displays, but I don't want to see that with a male/female relationship either. I have always had small children and I prefer not to have to explain that...... but I tell my kids and anyone else, what they do in their own homes behind closed doors is totally their business.

And if they want to get married, they should be allowed that, I mean, come on..... what business is it of mine, really? No one decided who I married and I shouldn't decide who anyone else marries..... not my business.

There are FAR more important things we should be concerned with than what gender is marrying what other gender, that just sounded silly typing it. LOL

OMG Jim · 08-12-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA

People of all walks of life should only be together for 2 years max

If you think about it that might be a great idea. With so many people getting divorced in the U.S. within the first two years of marriage maybe there should be some type of renewable contract where either or both parties can just walk away after the two year "trial" period is up.

Lawyers probably wouldn't like that concept though as I am sure they makes millions every year in divorce court

Live and Let Live!

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LA Crew · 08-12-2010, 11:16 PM

A marriage means a husband and a wife, so it does redefine what the word means to have two men, who is the wife?!

DamianJ · 08-13-2010, 01:14 AM

[QUOTE=The Demon;17404744]

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Again, that's plain stupid and I can totally understand if you don't get any clients at all by your simplistic understanding of business vs. personal..

Again, I have so many clients I am refusing any new ones at the moment. None of them are homophobic.

I cannot handle any more business.

Thanks for your feedback and business advice though. I'm TOTALLY sure it is invaluable.

BettingHandle · 08-14-2010, 02:13 AM

Same-sex couples deserve exactly the same benefits and protections under the law as everyone else.

deanberkeley · 08-14-2010, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Remember, there are no shotgun weddings in the gay community.

Food for thought.

I am gay, and well, I support gay marriage even though I don't think it is for me. However, I must ask with this shotgun statement. Have you met many lesbians?

The joke goes, first date is wings, second date is a uhaul rental.

It isn't really lesbians either. I have people on my facebook that are bitching one day that they are single. The next they are in a relationship, and 2 days later they are saying they are married. Needless to say, 2 weeks later, they are single again.

Raf1 · 08-14-2010, 03:30 AM

I don't really care.

MasterBlow · 08-15-2010, 09:54 AM

Against. Same-sex couples aren't the optimum environment in which to raise children.

Amputate Your Head · 08-15-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow

Against. Same-sex couples aren't the optimum environment in which to raise children.

Do you have some sort of credentials to substantiate this, or is it merely another opinion based on nothing?

Julio_PCM · 08-15-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g

I am against gay getting married..... straight people too. If you want to fuck up a relationship the best thing to do is get married.

That's true! Don't get married!

Vendzilla · 08-15-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Holly Lez!

Always liked you but why do you care so much when you hetreos can marry anywhere and make a mockery out of marriage... and still use the word marriage..If you think I don't deserve the word marriage I say stop the reality shows about marriage, stop Vegas Marriages, stop Britney Spears likes and make them all civil unions

I agree with you on several points, Marriage is a joke to people, I've been married twice. But I still don't see where anyone has the right to change the meaning of a marriage, it's between a Husband and Wife.
Everyone is whining about their rights to get married, what about the rights of the people that voted to keep it the way it is? Political correctness is just running over everyone and that's what pisses me off about this.

I'm all for Civil unions having the same legal status as a marriage.

7 million people voted for prop 8, people as a whole in the most liberal state in the union are not ready for this and to shove it down their throats is insensitive to their rights, The Gay community yells at the top of their lungs that they want tolerance for their lifestyle and to be treated as equals, and now they want to force that on everyone? Makes them hypocrites to think their rights are above everyone else's. You can argue that the prop 8 people were backed by the mormons, they have rights don't they? The people against prop 8 spent more and they lied in the commercials, they said that gay marriage wouldn't be taught in the classroom, it was on the website for that school district that marriage was taught.

I was in the Navy, I met this girl, she was pretty hot, it turned out she was openly gay. It was the first time I had ever met an openly gay person. She opened my eyes to things I had never considered in my life while growing up in suburbia.I remember going into a lesbian bar with her and having to take a piss and doing so with a bunch of women getting high in the men's room. We're still friends and chat often.

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CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	There's the dictionary meaning of the world 'marriage' and then there's the real-world meaning. What with today's drive thru weddings and 5 minute faux chappel weddings and the like, the only thing quicker than the quickie wedding is the quickie divorce. Fact is the word all but lost all meaning a long time ago at the hands of us heteros. And, can 7 million people be wrong? Absolutely. Admittedly I'm more ambivalent about the issue than anything, but if pressed I'd have to say let them have their damn weddings already. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634 Last edited by CDSmith; 08-10-2010 at 11:39 AM..

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Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	Against Same Sex Marriage - The Six Point Case 1.Natural marriage is the foundation of a civilized society. 2.Homosexual behavior is inherently destructive. 3.The law is a great teacher, and it encourages or discourages behavior. 4.Government-backed same-sex marriage would encourage and normalize homosexual behavior, and it would harm natural marriage, children, adults, and homosexuals themselves. 5.The law should promote behaviors that are beneficial and prohibit (or at least not endorse) those that are destructive. 6.Therefore, the law should promote natural marriage, and it should provide no option for government-backed same-sex marriage or civil unions.

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