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tony286 · 08-20-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

Boogie Nights - Budget, $15 million. Gross 43 million. Not fantastic but definitely not a flop.

US box office was nothing to write home about especially when you consider it was an amazing film with great performances. I forgot what article I read but it was considered a flop at the box office. Then you add dvd and int it didnt do bad.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-20-2010, 10:27 AM

With only $20mil invested, they will still turn a profit, just not a huge one.

NinjaSteve · 08-20-2010, 11:07 AM

I thought the trailer looked sweet.

epitome · 08-20-2010, 11:32 AM

I had no idea this thread would turn out this way. I thought a few predictable trolls would jump in but WOW.

Anyway, no solid plans for tonight ... had kept August 20th reserved for Middle Men.

Roald · 08-20-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

With only $20mil invested, they will still turn a profit, just not a huge one.

Meh.....

woj · 08-20-2010, 12:48 PM

Movies are either hits or flops, barely turning a profit = flop... most of the profit will go to investors and other "middle men" (no pun intended, heh)... producer invested ton of his own $$, spent years chasing around it, making deals etc, just to pretty much break even...

it's really a shame though, seemed like a decent flick, had potential to be a hit....

PornMD · 08-20-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

Movies are either hits or flops, barely turning a profit = flop... most of the profit will go to investors and other "middle men" (no pun intended, heh)... producer invested ton of his own $$, spent years chasing around it, making deals etc, just to pretty much break even...

it's really a shame though, seemed like a decent flick, had potential to be a hit....

Yea, people seem to forget the value of the time spent too. Months/years of time invested by all involved for a little profit isn't success.

That said, I agree that it's a shame. It looks more interesting than most of the shit playing, so my fascination with this is more that it's doing as poorly as it is given what it is.

Kenny B! · 08-20-2010, 01:28 PM

I saw the movie and it's was great, way better than movies that make tens of millions. As I see it the main reason for the dismal numbers is the lack of promotion. I don’t know if Luke Wilson is promoting it on the talk show circuit or if there were many press junkets, but it was way better than Stallons flick the expendables which that had tons of promotion and many huge names. I guess the big screen is a lot like the internet, you have the traffic you’ll make the conversions no matter what the content is.

babymaker · 08-20-2010, 01:35 PM

yea no fucking promotion why?? I didnt see one newpaper ad and one 10 sec tv spot i almost missed.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 01:38 PM

they promoted the fuck out of it here in l.a.

PornMD · 08-20-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by babymaker

yea no fucking promotion why?? I didnt see one newpaper ad and one 10 sec tv spot i almost missed.

Depends on the channels I guess. I've seen previews for it at least a dozen times or so on TV. Forget if it was on Spike or Fox or what.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-20-2010, 01:40 PM

Standard procedure is...If your movie cost 20 Million to make, you need to put half of it in Promotion. So I don't think 10 Million more went into P & A (Print and advertising)

That could have been the problem.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-20-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

they promoted the fuck out of it here in l.a.

Especially in Chatsworth.

CYF · 08-20-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

they promoted the fuck out of it here in l.a.

I saw commercials all the time here and it's no where to be found in theaters.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Especially in Chatsworth.

go figure! lolz

off topic, i received your wife's book in the mail today, looking forward to reading it this weekend.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-20-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

go figure! lolz

off topic, i received your wife's book in the mail today, looking forward to reading it this weekend.

Damn that was Fast.

If you have any questions about the business whatsoever, I can give you her email address.
She used to own an Agency, Modeling and Commercial with over 300 People on her Roster.

Just not enough time in the day for her with everything she has going on.

Off Topic,
I may go for a ride tomorrow, maybe head towards the beach area for a drink with a buddy that lives out that way. Let me know.

Riffhard · 08-20-2010, 01:55 PM

Anyone know how Zack and Miri make a Porno did?

docputer · 08-20-2010, 01:58 PM

Moviefone shows it in 2 theaters in Plano Texas, about a 10 hour drive from where I live.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Damn that was Fast.

If you have any questions about the business whatsoever, I can give you her email address.
She used to own an Agency, Modeling and Commercial with over 300 People on her Roster.

Just not enough time in the day for her with everything she has going on.

Off Topic,
I may go for a ride tomorrow, maybe head towards the beach area for a drink with a buddy that lives out that way. Let me know.

amazon prime ftw! i hope i have some questions eh, so that would be cool.

tomorrow sounds cool, holler at me with the details if you go.

we went to roscoe's bike nite last nite, it was outlaw m/c nite i guess, the mongols were there and when it came time for us to leave, one of em had his bike parked in front of mine and got pissed when i asked him nicely to move it. hah. he was drunk and almost dropped it on about 3 other bikes. close call!

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-20-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

amazon prime ftw! i hope i have some questions eh, so that would be cool.

tomorrow sounds cool, holler at me with the details if you go.

we went to roscoe's bike nite last nite, it was outlaw m/c nite i guess, the mongols were there and when it came time for us to leave, one of em had his bike parked in front of mine and got pissed when i asked him nicely to move it. hah. he was drunk and almost dropped it on about 3 other bikes. close call!

That's a funny and scary story.

Trying to find your email, can you send me an email with it. I'll send you details. Maybe I should hit up Baddog too, if he has any miles left on it.

MiLo · 08-20-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Riffhard

Anyone know how Zack and Miri make a Porno did?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...makeaporno.htm

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

That's a funny and scary story.

Trying to find your email, can you send me an email with it. I'll send you details. Maybe I should hit up Baddog too, if he has any miles left on it.

yeah, it was pretty funny, he went off about how i need to choose a better spot to park my scoot next time if i plan on leaving early. fuck, the entire lot was jammed with bikes, i could of gotten there at 10pm and still not be able to get out without peeps moving shit around.

sending an email to you now.........

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-20-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

yeah, it was pretty funny, he went off about how i need to choose a better spot to park my scoot next time if i plan on leaving early. fuck, the entire lot was jammed with bikes, i could of gotten there at 10pm and still not be able to get out without peeps moving shit around.

sending an email to you now.........

That's funny, next time take a cab.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

That's funny, next time take a cab.

then i won't be able to show off the dynamo scootie!

baddog · 08-20-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

That's a funny and scary story.

Trying to find your email, can you send me an email with it. I'll send you details. Maybe I should hit up Baddog too, if he has any miles left on it.

I was planning on riding to San Francisco tonight, but a change of plans. I will be around if you guys want to go for a putt. My Night Train needs some love anyway.

Billy Mays · 08-20-2010, 03:54 PM

right down the pisser

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I was planning on riding to San Francisco tonight, but a change of plans. I will be around if you guys want to go for a putt. My Night Train needs some love anyway.

bartell's at 10:30ish am, see y'all there!

baddog · 08-20-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

bartell's at 10:30ish am, see y'all there!

damn, you get up early . . . . I will try to have Buddy walked by then.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

damn, you get up early . . . . I will try to have Buddy walked by then.

lolz, i was thinking that's kinda late, pch traffic starts piling up around then.

time to split lanessssssss

baddog · 08-20-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

lolz, i was thinking that's kinda late, pch traffic starts piling up around then.

time to split lanessssssss

I always split lanes, no matter the time. The Night Train is perfect for it. When I see you I will tell you about splitting lanes in Denver. What a bunch of pussies there.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I always split lanes, no matter the time. The Night Train is perfect for it. When I see you I will tell you about splitting lanes in Denver. What a bunch of pussies there.

hah, right on.

my brother-in-law was in town with the fam recently and wouldn't split lanes, i left him behind.

he was pissed. lolz

baddog · 08-20-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

hah, right on.

my brother-in-law was in town with the fam recently and wouldn't split lanes, i left him behind.

he was pissed. lolz

I actually had some guy [in Denver] on a Harley yell at me as I went by, asking WTF I thought I was doing.

I thought it was pretty obvious.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I actually had some guy [in Denver] on a Harley yell at me as I went by, asking WTF I thought I was doing.

I thought it was pretty obvious.

i always like doing that. just brap right by those guys sitting in traffic.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-20-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

bartell's at 10:30ish am, see y'all there!

Exactly! See you there.
Just fired up my dirty ride. I'll be riding dirty...literally.

baddog · 08-21-2010, 11:39 AM

Well, arrived at Bartels'. Daniel (service guy) said I missed you by two minutes.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-21-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Well, arrived at Bartels'. Daniel (service guy) said I missed you by two minutes.

Have to split lanes faster next time I guess...

ADG

baddog · 08-21-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Have to split lanes faster next time I guess...

ADG

Nah, I rode hard and fast, just got a late start. If I had not taken the time to wipe the dust off my mirrors I would have made it.

Agent 488 · 08-22-2010, 09:21 PM

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...egoryid=1&cs=1

kane · 08-22-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...egoryid=1&cs=1

That is a good read. Thanks for the link

CYF · 08-22-2010, 09:57 PM

The August 20th opening weekend has come and gone and I can't find this movie anywhere within 200 miles of me.

Anyone know when I can download it off Itunes?

tony286 · 08-22-2010, 09:58 PM

so I guess no pepsi commercials on pornhub now?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-22-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...egoryid=1&cs=1

Interesting article, but one of the big lies in the movie, and in the article, is the suggestion that Chris Mallick left porn years ago.

Chris Mallick never left porn. The last I heard, he is still the CEO of ePassporte, which is deeply involved in the porn biz.

Meanwhile, his movie, which I saw last week, that claims to be inspired by his true story, perpetuates extremely negative stereotypes about the industry.

Maybe Chris Mallick had or has mob connections, and he was an accessory to a murder, and shot an individual himself (all events depicted in the movie supposedly based upon his life), but I don't know, nor have I ever met, anyone in the industry that even remotely fits that description.

He also made it clear in his movie that the billing company he was a part of and it's founders (which in real life would be Paycom), were involved in child porn, since the movie states in captions at the close that the drug addict guys whom started the billing company both served 18 months in jail on five year prison terms related to their involvement in child porn, while Mallick supposedly walked away from all of his obvious involvement in the wrongdoing.

Chris Mallick basically tried to cash in by selling us out. Therefore, I'm glad that more people did not see his movie, and that Middle Men was a flop that bombed big time at the box office.

ADG

Agent 488 · 08-22-2010, 10:03 PM

the mainstream stuff that will be sold on tubes - and is - will be late night informercial stuff.

it is a straw man to think that just because pepsi and toyota wont advertise on porn sites non-porn products wont be advertised on free porn sites.

PornMD · 08-22-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

the mainstream stuff that will be sold on tubes - and is - will be late night informercial stuff.

it is a straw man to think that just because pepsi and toyota wont advertise on porn sites non-porn products wont be advertised on free porn sites.

ShamWow can pick up 50 times its weight in splooge!

charlie g · 08-22-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

ShamWow can pick up 50 times its weight in splooge!

That's fucking funny!

kane · 08-22-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Interesting article, but one of the big lies in the movie, and in the article, is the suggestion that Chris Mallick left porn years ago.

Chris Mallick never left porn. The last I heard, he is still the CEO of ePassporte, which is deeply involved in the porn biz.

Meanwhile, his movie, which I saw last week, that claims to be inspired by his true story, perpetuates extremely negative stereotypes about the industry.

Maybe Chris Mallick had or has mob connections, and he was an accessory to a murder, and shot an individual himself (all events depicted in the movie supposedly based upon his life), but I don't know, nor have I ever met, anyone in the industry that even remotely fits that description.

He also made it clear in his movie that the billing company he was a part of and it's founders (which in real life would be Paycom), were involved in child porn, since the movie states in captions at the close that the drug addict guys whom started the billing company both served 18 months in jail on five year prison terms related to their involvement in child porn, while Mallick supposedly walked away from all of his obvious involvement in the wrongdoing.

Chris Mallick basically tried to cash in by selling us out. Therefore, I'm glad that more people did not see his movie, and that Middle Men was a flop that bombed big time at the box office.

ADG

I haven't seen the movie, but will when it comes out on DVD. That said, it is no surprise to me that it was a bomb. The first time I saw the trailer I thought it looked like it might be a good movie, but that the only people who would probably be interested in it are porn webmasters.

candyflip · 08-23-2010, 06:23 AM

Interesting quote:

"Mallick himself insists he was repelled by the [porn] business but nonetheless held hostage by it for several years."

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-23-2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Well, arrived at Bartels'. Daniel (service guy) said I missed you by two minutes.

That sucks, sorry man. We waiting for about 30 Minutes and thought you were a no show.

CYF · 08-23-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

ShamWow can pick up 50 times its weight in splooge!

that's fucking hilarious

baddog · 08-23-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

That sucks, sorry man. We waiting for about 30 Minutes and thought you were a no show.

I figured. I tried leaving a message for Scott but no luck. If I had a clue where you guys were headed I would have chased after you.

Oh well, next time.

08-20-2010, 11:07 AM	#103
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	I thought the trailer looked sweet. __________________ ...

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08-20-2010, 01:28 PM	#108
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,717	I saw the movie and it's was great, way better than movies that make tens of millions. As I see it the main reason for the dismal numbers is the lack of promotion. I don’t know if Luke Wilson is promoting it on the talk show circuit or if there were many press junkets, but it was way better than Stallons flick the expendables which that had tons of promotion and many huge names. I guess the big screen is a lot like the internet, you have the traffic you’ll make the conversions no matter what the content is. __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

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Semi-Retired-Dave Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LA Posts: 11,190	Standard procedure is...If your movie cost 20 Million to make, you need to put half of it in Promotion. So I don't think 10 Million more went into P & A (Print and advertising) That could have been the problem. __________________ Support a Good Cause

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	With only $20mil invested, they will still turn a profit, just not a huge one.

08-20-2010, 11:32 AM	#104
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	I had no idea this thread would turn out this way. I thought a few predictable trolls would jump in but WOW. Anyway, no solid plans for tonight ... had kept August 20th reserved for Middle Men.

08-20-2010, 01:38 PM	#110
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,650	they promoted the fuck out of it here in l.a.

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docputer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,103	Moviefone shows it in 2 theaters in Plano Texas, about a 10 hour drive from where I live.

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Billy Mays So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 128	right down the pisser

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Well, arrived at Bartels'. Daniel (service guy) said I missed you by two minutes.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...egoryid=1&cs=1

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CYF Coupon Guru Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 10,973	The August 20th opening weekend has come and gone and I can't find this movie anywhere within 200 miles of me. Anyone know when I can download it off Itunes? __________________ Webmaster Coupons Coupons and discounts for hosting, domains, SSL Certs, and more! AmeriNOC Coupons \| Certified Hosting Coupons \| Hosting Coupons \| Domain Name Coupons

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	so I guess no pepsi commercials on pornhub now?

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	the mainstream stuff that will be sold on tubes - and is - will be late night informercial stuff. it is a straw man to think that just because pepsi and toyota wont advertise on porn sites non-porn products wont be advertised on free porn sites.

08-23-2010, 06:23 AM	#147
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,058	Interesting quote: "Mallick himself insists he was repelled by the [porn] business but nonetheless held hostage by it for several years." __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me