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Old 11-15-2010, 12:07 PM   #1
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A Note to Epoch and program owners using epoch 1 clicks

Yes, they are broken and have been for awhile. We discovered some problems and they said they had to take it back to development. Yes, epoch, a huge billing company having to take something back to development. So note to epoch. Get it fixed. This is unacceptable. Note to Program owners: Epoch one clicks aren't working. Test them yourself and see. This is a big problem and it's already taken them going on two weeks to get nowhere.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:11 PM   #2
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fuck me really??

thanks for the heads up
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:14 PM   #3
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All fine on my side. Both xsales and membership plus.

Partners on NATS and proprietary reporting all good.

Are you referring to incoming or outgoing or both?
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:14 PM   #4
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more good news i see
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:19 PM   #5
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how long this been going on? seems like most of the bog boys use epoch and sales been garbage the last week with them.
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All fine on my side. Both xsales and membership plus.

Partners on NATS and proprietary reporting all good.

Are you referring to incoming or outgoing or both?
It's something "They admitted' themselves so I'd really look at it closer.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:24 PM   #7
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how long this been going on? seems like most of the bog boys use epoch and sales been garbage the last week with them.
Actually, last week our Epoch sales were the highest they have been in a month.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:26 PM   #8
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Actually, last week our Epoch sales were the highest they have been in a month.
yea.. maybe you had them set to 100% in your casgade. Thats the only way that's possible with that bug.
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fuck me really??

thanks for the heads up
I'll have more news for you in a little bit. I'm getting this translates into english from geek as we speak.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:36 PM   #10
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1st problem: We had made a change to our infrastructure which meant that post backs were not able to get through into our servers. At no point did epoch let us know that post backs were failing, nor was there a status update anywhere on their site. It had been down for 4-8 weeks, and not once did they let us know something went wrong. This meant users were able to access the site, even if they canceled or refunded.


2nd problem: When generating MemberPlus entries (i.e. an additional transaction which spawns from the original transaction), in essense becoming a "one click", there is a problem where the password field is not enforced, and therefore can sometimes be blank. Because of this, the transaction fails to generate a password in NATS, effectively billing the user, but not allowing them to access anything.


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yea.. maybe you had them set to 100% in your casgade. Thats the only way that's possible with that bug.
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LOL, no silly. Since 11/1 we have actually seen an increase in our incoming and outgoing xsales. We do Earned Income Reports every two weeks as well and Accounting will alert me if anything is funk.

Did Epoch give any indication that this is just with NATS clients or across the board?

I'm not trying to discredit Duke's find, just narrow it down a bit as I don't see the same trends and have quite a few transactions going through Epoch.

If anyone is in doubt, send the PI code you send one clicks to and Epoch can create you a dump of all the members and then you can put that into an Excel file, gather the numbers of members and compare against the program stats.
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2nd problem: When generating MemberPlus entries (i.e. an additional transaction which spawns from the original transaction), in essense becoming a "one click", there is a problem where the password field is not enforced, and therefore can sometimes be blank. Because of this, the transaction fails to generate a password in NATS, effectively billing the user, but not allowing them to access anything.


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This I have encountered and talked to both NATS and Epoch about. It can be a variety of issues. How are you doing membership plus tracking with the NATS code, with or without the X in front?
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:04 PM   #13
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This I have encountered and talked to both NATS and Epoch about. It can be a variety of issues. How are you doing membership plus tracking with the NATS code, with or without the X in front?
All I know is they are aware that it IS a problem and not on our end and they are working on it but it is taking too long.
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