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I am pretty sure that you are a reasonably intelligent individual and are perfectly capable of understanding that while you may not agree with some people using it exclusively, that does not mean they deserved this. The money they have in epass is THEIR money, and they have every right to be upset about it and every right to demand answers. This is certainly not the time to pick on some of the people in this thread and take the 'I'm better than you because I knew better, and I have more options, and I'm smarter" attitude. Hindsight is 20/20, especially when epass is the ONLY option for some. In this industry, like all industries there are people with a lot of money, people with a moderate amount of money and some people barely making it. We should applaud them for at least trying to earn money, using the resources available to them and trying their best rather than sitting on their asses and having someone else support them. I don't believe in kicking people when they are down but apparently from your post you do. You appear to enjoy taking opportunities like this to point out that you are smarter and wiser and better off than others. That isn't my style. I guess my mom raised me differently. I spoke out because I felt that Micheal needed to remember that for some people this situation is having an enormous impact on their lives and because of this, he shouldn't be "too busy" for them. It is called empathy...maybe you should try it sometime. |
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wow......what a clusterfuck. I sure hope we get out money back somehow.
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Serious questions, how many visa debit card as epassporte issued that are currently active cards?
100's of k's? |
Accept Christ as your savior, before it's too late! :1orglaugh
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So did anyone manage to withdraw money using the still available methods since the announcement ?
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Your reply makes sense, i'll ask the receiver to change the settings then. |
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If you have your money in the e wallet, is it possible to withdraw to US checking account?. It has already said that it is not possible to withdraw from Visa virtual account, but what are the options when your $ is into the wallet? Are they the same in the US, EU and other countries? I think it would save a lot of messages if these options were explained and maybe sticky (?)
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2. I never questioned your commitment, I did question your judgement on removing your banner. 3. You need a nap, apparently you get cranky when you don't get much sleep 4. I hope your girlfriend recovers soon. |
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As Sean said we've been changing affiliate payout methods. Any NScash.com affiliates can use our ticketing support system and we'll change it promptly.
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One day someone is gonna be an accidental super star due to something like this. :2 cents: |
so long epass. it was nice never doing business with you
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I belong to a financial community board and this is what is being said in regards to this.
-------------------------------- The reason for this move from Visa is most likely because of the new rules enforced by Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN). New rules has come in place regarding debit pre paid cards, gift cards and reloadable top up cards. The rules, which were mandated by the Credit CARD Act of 2009, require more data collection and reporting from businesses, and some experts say they could make prepaid card buying a challenge for some consumers. Starting June 28, the public will have 30 days to comment on the rules, which require nonbank prepaid card providers to: Quote: File suspicious activity reports (SARs) with the government on suspicious activity of more than $2,000. Suspicious Activities Reports are Treasury Department forms already required of banks, casinos, poker rooms, securities and futures firms and others in the money services business. More than 5.6 million have been filed since they were first mandated in 1996 (see chart). The proposed rule would add nonbank card providers to the ranks of those required to file forms with the government when their suspicions are aroused. Collect customer information anytime a card is reloaded at someplace other than a bank. Maintain transaction information. The rule focuses on the following: Quote: Don't have the value clearly labeled on them. Are reloadable at places other than banks. Can have a maximum lifetime value of more than $1,000, including reloads. Can be used anywhere -- especially if they can be used internationally. Can have the value transferred to another card. Are purchased in large amounts or seem otherwise suspicious. Basically this is another terrorists anti-money laundry mumbo jumbo, but for now Epassporte is going to stay closed unless they will be able to comply with the new regulatations that came into force just a bit more than 30 days ago. -------------------- Epassporte functionality that some may not know of: All money that are kept in Epassporte are NOT, Visa. The two has nothing to do with each other. The gimmicks with Virtual Visa etc. has nothing to do with Visa. All money are at all times kept in the very same bank that Epassporte works together with. All money are kept in the bank, which Epassporte uses as their intermedia for Visa as they do not directly hold any Visa license. Epassporte holds an Deposit-taking business license on St. Kitts. Since the bank that works together with Visa has lost their license, which in turn is due to the new regulations, Epassporte cannot issue new cards before they: A) Find a new bank B) Get a direct license from Visa, which they wont as Visa only works directly together with Banks |
don't know the difference but found this post on the net:
"After a few phone calls.... It is my understanding that the problem is NOT with the ST Kitts bank....Visa has suspended only Epass pre-paid Visa accounts. (Virtual Visa etc) They have not suspended the other VISA accounts at the ST Kitts bank The concerns are as addressed by many prior posters. AML laws, who owns the underlying cards etc etc...." |
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There is clearly no doubt that Epassporte falls under the prepaid/gift card rules as they issue cards without being able to perform sufficient due diligence. Since Epassporte can be used by anyone in the world without anyone being checked, Epassporte will probably see the end of its operations for a long time to come. |
good night nurse.
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Visa Physical/Plastic Card Account Fees Visa Physical/Plastic Card Account Creation Fee: US$35.00 Visa Physical/Plastic Card Account Annual Renewal Fee : US$35.00 (Applied once every year after the account creation date) ATM WIthdrawal Via Physical/Plastic Card: US$3.00 So as far as recurring fees, it lists one fee, the $35 / year renewal. Instead, this is what you actually charge: > > 03 May 2009 Electron Card Annual Fee $-35.00 $0.00 > > > > > > 01 Feb 2010 Electron Card Renewal raymor $-35.00 $0.00 > > > > 01 Feb 2010 Electron Card Renewal raymor $-35.00 $0.00 > > > > 12 Jan 2010 Electron Card Annual Fee $-35.00 $0.00 That's four fees for two cards, twice what's listed on your "fees" page. Most of my messages sent via the support center were pretty much ignored, people saying "we'll get back to you". On the phone, Sunil eventually clearly admitted that ePassporte is charging "undisclosed fees", but he refused to refund those fees. I may still have the recording of that conversation (and admission) archived somewhere. I advised Sunil that I had spoken to Patricia Reid-Waugh, Commissioner, St. Kitts-Nevis Financial Services Commission, and she said she would look into it. It appears that she or Visa has in fact looked into it and found that, as ePassporte has admitted, they have been stealing their customers' money. I told you guys the choice was simple - refund the bogues "fee", or lose your processing. Seemed like an easy decision to me. |
Bye-bye epassporte. You guys fucked up good and the blame is on you and only you. Fuck all your bullshit responses... do your homework before you guys go into Ch 11 though.. you wouldn't want to fuck yourselves again. Oh wait.. probably is no such protection over there.
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I came here thinking it was a contest thread and all I got was a lousy statement from epassporte.
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Did ePass not have a contract with Visa? It seems very strange that they had no warning on something this drastic. Surely whenever Visa agreed to the ePass cards everything had to be in writing. And even if the law changes and Visa has to cut them off, surely they would have to have their legal dept. work out the contractal issues before just cutting things off.
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http://aworldofprogress.com/wp-conte.../angry-mob.jpg I'm just messing with you, but come on, what were you thinking even suggesting that you may have something to do with all this drama....:helpme |
LOL poor michael - i hope you get paid real well from epassporte for taking all this shit from everyone :P
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----bookmarking my place... off the make my brunch frittata...
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I would have to say "Not very likely". Bank robberies hardly ever yield a large loss. Tellers are trained not to keep any more than $2,000 in their cash drawer. Vaults are on time locks and rarely contain more capital than the branch requires to operate for the day. If a customer wants to make a large withdrawal, they usually need to arrange that 2 days in advance. So, probably no large loss from an in and out bank heist. |
Raymor, you never go full on retard.
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Found this take on the matter at Italkcash, which is scary as Hell:
"I would say Epassporte has a huge problem now. If it shows that Visa shut down their bank due to Epassporte, then Epassporte will most likely never be able to conduct any business with Visa. It all basically depends on how "toxic" Epassporte is in Visa's eyes. They could go to Mastercard, but thats more or less the same thing as those two companies are sharing each others mothers too. If Epassporte is not toxic and they only lost their bank, they still will face trouble. A) Either they find a new bank on the very same Island under the same license/legislation or B) They start over on another Island, which means re-applying for a license to conduct e-money business online. This cannot be done within 3 months even on a small Island. B1) Then contact a bank to start issuing cards, which will take months to work out C) They apply to become a full bank C1) Then they have to apply directly to Visa for a Visa license C2) Or they would have to go to a wholesale BIN Visa/Mastercard bank No matter the route Epassporte will be shut down for the next 3 months most likely. And if they are toxic, then none of the above will work. Visa will simply prevent any bank from working with Epassporte." Hoping the best for all you ePass users! Sally. |
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Over and over they were told "you are stealing from all of your customers. You need to stop." "You need to stop stealing from your customers, or someone will make you stop." "People have the name and phone number of the regulator who can make you stop, does someone really have to call her?" "People are going to complain to Visa if you don't refund what you've stolen." We gave them every opportunity, months and months, to take care of it, or hell at least make an excuse or something. How long do you go on with them saying "yeah, we're stealing from everyone and we're going to keep doing it and fuck you all"? Somebody was eventually going to bust their balls if they just wouldn't stop stealing from all of us. |
ibill part deux. or dmr part 3.
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lived thru all of these as well..sigh. |
oh man its not looking good :(
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wait is raymor trying to take credit for this?
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