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Old 01-11-2011, 01:26 PM   #51
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We really need to go back to reading one newspaper in the morning and that's it. All this constant news has us riding a fucking crazy train to nowhere. Everyone is so poorly informed and there is so much noise, that it's like living in some acid trip. Everyday it's like a joke.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:39 PM   #52
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There are people nowadays (even on North American radio/television) that say "kill fags" seriously or as a joke. I think fags should not be killed.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:52 PM   #53
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Pretend he doesn't exist, by making a blog post about him
How clever of you.

You can have two gold stars for pointing out the same irony twice!
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Yeah I find it hard to credit a story written about someone a couple hundred years after they died as well. It's like taking some pirate movie as gospel truth. "literally".

People need to accept responsibility AND take credit when it's due. Next time a sports figure thanks Jesus for making the game winning catch I might vomit frogs just to make a point.
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i always laugh when people take that comment seriously..

the bible was/is just one giant fairytale and there is no proof to state otherwise...

i believe that there was a dude named jesus that cruised around and was a pretty good guy. probably smoked a lot of weed, but was he the son of god.. no he was not...

the bible is just a book that was created out of many stories passed down from generation to generation with the intention of keeping some type of civil order through fear..

human beings are inherently evil creatures that are only interested in self preservation.. its actually built into our genetic code..

without some type of fear based moral guide, we would run around slaughtering each other and it would be survival of the fittest at its finest..

i suspect that a bunch of weaker people were responsible for a lot of the content of the bible..

like david vs goliath was probably created by some little guy that was tired of getting his ass kicked and made a story up so that people might take heed of a little guy..

etc etc...

if a god truly existed, there would not be as much suffering in the world as there is..

and yes, i know the christians can explain that away, but the fact is that until you have seen a child that has been beaten to within an inch of his life or a child slowly dying from the ravages of cancer, the fact that a god does exists probably seems like a pretty neat idea...







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Let me use your simple minded logic for a minute. The bible is real and there is no proof otherwise!!!
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:34 PM   #56
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Let me use your simple minded logic for a minute. The bible is real and there is no proof otherwise!!!
there is evolution....

and when i want your opinion, i'll choke it out of you..


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How clever of you.

You can have two gold stars for pointing out the same irony twice!
No gold stars because you can't count.

However it's discriminatory to not reward thickness so have a lolly instead
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:58 PM   #58
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I can't fucking believe it. Holy shit, this is going to be bad. My heart goes out to the families of that little girl.

Some adult webmasters need to setup a counter protest right in front of the GodHatesFags family home and shoot some GAY MAN-ON-MAN ASS FUCKING right in front of their door.

Unbeliable...
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:11 PM   #59
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there is evolution....

and when i want your opinion, i'll choke it out of you..


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Evolution and religion don't mix buddy. Try to educate yourself before you insult something, since you have no clue what you're talking about. What's the difference between you and a bumbling idiot like Bill Mahr who takes an obscure passage (without any investigating) and then ridicules it?
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your religion killed little baby jesus and thats why your religion was put into ovens during the big one...


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No it's that Jews think they are the master race just as Hitler thought pure whites were the master race. I'm not at all anti-semitic and I have several Jewish friends that are important people in my life - however I do get sick of their superiority crap.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:18 PM   #61
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Evolution and religion don't mix buddy. Try to educate yourself before you insult something, since you have no clue what you're talking about. What's the difference between you and a bumbling idiot like Bill Mahr who takes an obscure passage (without any investigating) and then ridicules it?
no shit dipshit...

thats why there is no religion as people would like it to be based upon..

there is no god.. period...

and even if there was, jews are filthy creatures and would be going to hell if that existed as well..

so thank your lucky stars i just enlightened you... know you dont have to face eternal damnation..

are we clear jim?




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no shit dipshit...

thats why there is no religion as people would like it to be based upon..

there is no god.. period...

and even if there was, jews are filthy creatures and would be going to hell if that existed as well..

so thank your lucky stars i just enlightened you... know you dont have to face eternal damnation..

are we clear jim?
Hahaha thanks for proving my point. I love arguing against the absence of logic and common sense. Keep trying though. Maybe if you scream "GOD DOESNT EXIST" loud enough, you'll actually believe it.
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However it's discriminatory to not reward thickness so have a lolly instead
Ah, yes.... somehow I read TheDA quoting your post as a re-post by you. That's what I get for reading too quickly.

At any rate, do you at least agree that there's a slight difference between me posting a single entry about Phelps on an XBIZ blog in 2007, and then posting about him again here 4 years later, and the likes of CNN, FOX, CNBC, etc, giving the man coverage... well, just about every time he pops up his idiotic head?

I think there's a rather large difference between the two. If that makes me a hypocrite, or represents another example of being "thick," then so be it.
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Ah, yes.... somehow I read TheDA quoting your post as a re-post by you. That's what I get for reading too quickly.

At any rate, do you at least agree that there's a slight difference between me posting a single entry about Phelps on an XBIZ blog in 2007, and then posting about him again here 4 years later, and the likes of CNN, FOX, CNBC, etc, giving the man coverage... well, just about every time he pops up his idiotic head?

I think there's a rather large difference between the two. If that makes me a hypocrite, or represents another example of being "thick," then so be it.
I just thought it was funny that you said everybody should ignore him and then linked to yourself not ignoring him. Wasn't expecting it to turn into an argument
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AZ just passed emergency legislation to block the protesters... I think it was 300 feet away and no protesting an hour before/after funerals.

I'll still be going down on Thursday... They expected 2500ish people to help show up to block them douches, but with the law passing who knows what will go down now.
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If they would just picket the wrong funeral just once... a gang of bikers would have a lot of fun.
I thought bikers did turn up to all their demos (at least the funerals)? I've certainally seen photos where bikers provide a "ring of protection" from those nutters around funerals. You can also see them in the background in some scenes of the Louis Theroux documentary.
I think there was an adult webmaster from another forum who used to go to those demos as an ex-military biker or something?
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Let me use your simple minded logic for a minute. The bible is real and there is no proof otherwise!!!
The bible is real in what way? As in it's a book/paper? Okay.... Or as in god created it? I can prove otherwise, every Bible/religious book has a human creator.

Btw... It's not the non-believers job to prove god isn't real. It's your job to prove the claim.

This is like me making the claim I can fly, the non-believer wants me to prove it. The non-believer can't prove I can't fly, if I don't show them. In short, religious people put faith in words without any proof. So put your faith into me that I can fly ... exactly!

It's your job to prove your God/stories/book, etc are real. It's NEVER the other persons job to prove your claims.
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I thought bikers did turn up to all their demos (at least the funerals)? I've certainally seen photos where bikers provide a "ring of protection" from those nutters around funerals. You can also see them in the background in some scenes of the Louis Theroux documentary.
I think there was an adult webmaster from another forum who used to go to those demos as an ex-military biker or something?
Yeppers... a few people on here do this.

The American Legion Riders and other local bike clubs will be on call for her funeral, to rev up bikes, to drown out protesters and block views. The parents asked them to be show up.
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Irony...

A thread full of Athiests telling others what to think.
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Irony...

A thread full of Athiests telling others what to think.
Or... a thread full of people tired of having religious nuts fuck up our world. It's all view points.
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the one that was killed in Tucson claiming she is going to hell...

when is someone going to open fire on those idiots...





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I would love nothing better than to see the citizens of this area beat these mother fuckers into the asphalt with baseball bats and chains.....fucking bible toting loonies.

Good thing it is not my daughter or relative that was being buried, because I have a feeling I would be in jail after their attempt to sabotage the funeral....

On another note, I heard this morning on the news that AZ just passed a law yesterday that will keep these assholes 300 feet from any funeral...it should be a mile or more.
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Seriously these morons deserve a taste of their own medicine. Some Jew should go up to the group and tell them that they just copied their shitty religion from the Jews and if God hates everybody they say he does, then God certainly hates them.. Then call them idol worshippers and move on. It won't happen but it would be funny.
I'd find it funnier to see a bunch of bears tie him up and gang rape his ass
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The bible is real in what way? As in it's a book/paper? Okay.... Or as in god created it? I can prove otherwise, every Bible/religious book has a human creator.

Btw... It's not the non-believers job to prove god isn't real. It's your job to prove the claim.

This is like me making the claim I can fly, the non-believer wants me to prove it. The non-believer can't prove I can't fly, if I don't show them. In short, religious people put faith in words without any proof. So put your faith into me that I can fly ... exactly!

It's your job to prove your God/stories/book, etc are real. It's NEVER the other persons job to prove your claims.
Try again Doc. Whoever is making a claim, it's their job to prove it. If you claim it isn't real, you have to prove it. But there's something you and the rest of the brainless are missing. I'm not trying to convince YOU that God exists, while you're trying to convince EVERYONE that he doesn't, so the onus will always be on you. Herein ends the lesson.
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Or... a thread full of people tired of having religious nuts fuck up our world. It's all view points.
Wow Doc, I was betting on who it was going to be to prove my point and I actually betted on slutboat so damn.. But I said this in the beginning of the thread:

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The problem is, you'll have the liberals and the atheists using this one retarded group as proof that religion is somehow "fanatical", which is just retarded. I'm a pretty religious Jew and I would beat the living monkey crap out of these morons.
Congratulations thedoc, you win the dumbass lifetime achievement award
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This is ridiculous. The police should be able to beat them....legally. Like waiting at a funeral will accomplish anything.
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I just thought it was funny that you said everybody should ignore him and then linked to yourself not ignoring him. Wasn't expecting it to turn into an argument
Yeah, to be honest, I actually thought about this while driving home last night and came to the inexorable conclusion that I owe you an apology.

All you did was make a completely valid point... and I lost my cool for some reason that still isn't really clear to me. That's not characteristic of the way I conduct myself, either in person or on the boards, and it really bothered me once I started asking myself "Now why did I go and do that?"

The problem likely is that I'm just on edge about this whole tragedy and the media coverage of everything related to it, because this shooting hit close to home, quite literally -- I live just a couple miles from that Safeway, and the family land where I grew up is even closer. I grew up playing with my friends in the sand washes and mesquite bosques that pepper the area. To cap it off, if I hadn't been running late that morning in preparing to fly out to Vegas for Internext, my plan was to have breakfast with my wife at a place called "Beyond Bread" that's in the same shopping center as the Safeway, just about 50 yards across the parking lot.

All the media coverage, all this focus on external influences that might have affected this fucked up kid... to me, it all smacks of this need and/or desire that some people have to capitalize on situations like this politically, and to have someone to blame beyond the deranged shitheads who pull the trigger in spree shootings like this one. As a result, my hometown/state (and the character of its people) is being bandied about in the press like a badminton shuttlecock, and it has gotten under my skin a bit, I think.

At any rate, I do apologize for losing my shit a little bit there, and running with your simple quip like it was more than it was.... and my very odd momentary inability to read a message board properly, as well. ;-)
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I am glad Arizona passed that ban, but the Phelp's will likely show up and protest, and take the tickets for violating the law, then sue the state for violation of their rights. It seems to be their standard MO.

The Patriot Guard generally rides to the soldiers funerals where the Phelps clan are, but sometimes they don't have the manpower to do so. For a recent funeral in my town, the Phelps protested, and old men with lawnmowers showed up to drown them out.
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Just went and read some of their literature.

While I do believe they are correct about the Catholic religion and worshiping false idols, casting spells (ever heard the idiots chanting?), making up shit as they go along, etc, etc... If it were my daughter being buried I'd have not a whole lot left to live for so I'd probably take one of my 25 round clips and wipe out every last picketer.
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Forgive my ignorance, but why are they going to protest a little girls funeral?

That is the most despicable thing I have ever heard.
This time it is suppose to be because they are protesting the Catholic church. However, the real answer is they will take any excuse to protest. They were protesting the funerals of AIDs victims back in the early 90s. Then they protested the funeral of Matthew Shepard, the 21 year old that was brutally killed for being gay. That got them a considerable amount of attention (and the counter protest against them there was beautiful).

Then, they decided to go big time and start insulting straight people by picketing the funerals of fallen soldiers. All with the excuse that because there are gay people in the States, god is killing the soldiers as punishment.

I despise them but I think the non-violent protests are the way to have the higher ground. They really are a small group of mostly family members. They get far too much attention and it fuels them.

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Try again Doc. Whoever is making a claim, it's their job to prove it. If you claim it isn't real, you have to prove it. But there's something you and the rest of the brainless are missing. I'm not trying to convince YOU that God exists, while you're trying to convince EVERYONE that he doesn't, so the onus will always be on you. Herein ends the lesson.
I'm not the one making the claim it does exist... at that, I'm not actually claiming god doesn't exist. What I stated was an example of why it's on you to show proof and not the other people.

See... they didn't start off by making the claim he didn't exist. What happened was someone claimed god did exist, and someone else said prove it. The original claim came from your side... all your doing is simply twisting it back because you can't prove anything.

Which is all the proof a non-believer needs.
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I'm not the one making the claim it does exist... at that, I'm not actually claiming god doesn't exist. What I stated was an example of why it's on you to show proof and not the other people.
Lets try this again. I'm not trying to convince anyone that God doesn't exist but the anti religious people such as yourself are trying to convince everybody that God doesn't exist, so the onus is on you.

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See... they didn't start off by making the claim he didn't exist. What happened was someone claimed god did exist, and someone else said prove it. The original claim came from your side... all your doing is simply twisting it back because you can't prove anything.

Which is all the proof a non-believer needs.
A non believer will take any little thing as proof, just like a believer will take any little thing as proof of his beliefs. In the end, you're in the same boat as the other guy.
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Wow Doc, I was betting on who it was going to be to prove my point and I actually betted on slutboat so damn.. But I said this in the beginning of the thread:
You have points when you post?

Oh yeah, the point... not everyone in this thread is an atheist, jackass.


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Congratulations thedoc, you win the dumbass lifetime achievement award
What you have is, Schizophrenia... A mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave normally in social situations.

It's not like you could ever see or understand that you do without getting help first.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:08 AM   #85
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Lets try this again. I'm not trying to convince anyone that God doesn't exist but the anti religious people such as yourself are trying to convince everybody that God doesn't exist, so the onus is on you.
You almost got it right... I'm anti-religious, but I do think a creator does/did exist - which is different than a God.

I've never had an atheist or anti-religious person knock on my door.... ever. I've never been out in the public and heard an atheist preach. At that, I can't recall anyone like that ever preaching to me, or even speaking until the overall subject is brought up and pushed.

But you can be damn sure I've had religion/god shoved down my damn throat, just like every other person on this forum.

So yes, your side is dang sure the one pushing it, across the entire world.. that is without question.


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A non believer will take any little thing as proof, just like a believer will take any little thing as proof of his beliefs. In the end, you're in the same boat as the other guy.
That some ass backwards logic...
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:11 AM   #86
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I am glad Arizona passed that ban, but the Phelp's will likely show up and protest, and take the tickets for violating the law, then sue the state for violation of their rights. It seems to be their standard MO.
I think with the nature of this incident, our State would put them in jail and not issue tickets. Would be nice to see them spend a few weeks in Tent city....I doubt they would last very long without getting a severe beat down if not murdered ;)
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You have points when you post?

Oh yeah, the point... not everyone in this thread is an atheist, jackass.
Who..Said... Everyone in this thread was an atheist? Do you always lose your mind when trying to compete with your intellectual superiors?




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What you have is, Schizophrenia... A mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave normally in social situations.

It's not like you could ever see or understand that you do without getting help first.
Yep, I rest my case.


Also, you've never seen the anti religious push their agenda? Hmmm how about this forum, and many others like it? How about shows and I don't know, movies like Religulous? Claiming you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

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That some ass backwards logic...
You wouldn't have the first idea what logic means.. Carry on.
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I think with the nature of this incident, our State would put them in jail and not issue tickets. Would be nice to see them spend a few weeks in Tent city....I doubt they would last very long without getting a severe beat down if not murdered ;)
I like the way you think! Some time in tent city would be a good start.
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Who..Said... Everyone in this thread was an atheist? Do you always lose your mind when trying to compete with your intellectual superiors?
Too stupid to follow your own conversion?


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Yep, I rest my case.
hehe, your case... Nice Schizophrenia you have.


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Also, you've never seen the anti religious push their agenda? Hmmm how about this forum, and many others like it? How about shows and I don't know, movies like Religulous? Claiming you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
You cut my quote... cute. I never said, that I haven't ever seen an anti-religious agenda by some people... nice failed and rather lame twist.

Have any other stupid shit you need to say?



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You wouldn't have the first idea what logic means.. Carry on.
Wow, did you come with that all by yourself or did you ask a 5th grader for help on that witty statement?
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Too stupid to follow your own conversion?




hehe, your case... Nice Schizophrenia you have.




You cut my quote... cute. I never said, that I haven't ever seen an anti-religious agenda by some people... nice failed and rather lame twist.

Have any other stupid shit you need to say?





Wow, did you come with that all by yourself or did you ask a 5th grader for help on that witty statement?
Way too easy.. Looks like you got had one too many concussions in the "army", otherwise you wouldn't have a double digit IQ at your age.

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Way too easy.. Looks like you got had one too many concussions in the "army", otherwise you wouldn't have a double digit IQ at your age.
Says the boy who thinks the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor is the Army...
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Says the boy who thinks the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor is the Army...
Says the fool who thinks 2+2=pink

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Says the fool who thinks 2+2=pink
Okay, schizo...
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I thought bikers did turn up to all their demos (at least the funerals)? I've certainally seen photos where bikers provide a "ring of protection" from those nutters around funerals. You can also see them in the background in some scenes of the Louis Theroux documentary.
I think there was an adult webmaster from another forum who used to go to those demos as an ex-military biker or something?
From what I understood, those guys are mostly ex-military, firemen, policemen, that sort of thing.

I was thinking more on the lines of Hell's Angels. :-)
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I'm an idiot.
We know.. and you're a schizo too.
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I concede because I'm a blabbering moron and I can't compete with you.

We know and I accept.
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