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Old 06-29-2011, 09:28 AM   #1
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?? What Are Your BIGGEST Gripes With . . . ??

. . . The adult biz as it is TODAY?

A whole lot has changed since various members of the L3 Payments Team entered the space (OVER a decade ago) and our biggest gripes would likely be all of the nonsense that has, in various degrees, permeated the processing space whether its rogue merchants or ridiculous cc company changes, or one of a million other issues.

So, what is it about the biz that really gets you frustrated? Curious to understand everyone's points of views as we are all involved in various capacities!

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Old 06-29-2011, 09:39 AM   #2
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#1 companies not paying
#2 shady practices program owners are doing that hurt affiliates
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:34 AM   #3
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. . . The adult biz as it is TODAY?

A whole lot has changed since various members of the L3 Payments Team entered the space (OVER a decade ago) and our biggest gripes would likely be all of the nonsense that has, in various degrees, permeated the processing space whether its rogue merchants or ridiculous cc company changes, or one of a million other issues.

So, what is it about the biz that really gets you frustrated? Curious to understand everyone's points of views as we are all involved in various capacities!

Cheers!
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:52 AM   #4
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:15 PM   #5
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:21 PM   #6
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Believe it or not, I really have NO GRIPES...

I'm doing my own thing, and have been doing it for years... I dont make as much money as I did 5 / 6 years ago... But then today... Who does?

I'm actually pretty happy with my lot lol
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:27 PM   #7
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Oh wow do I have a ton of opinions on this...I actually have a very interesting point of view as I started out in this biz 98 ish... I have helped build programs, sites, set standards that are still being used today, but at the same time, for a period of about 5 years or so I wasn't that active in this community until a few months back. (I've been more active in best practices, and other groups)

I realize I missed out on some "interesting" times, and we can talk tubes, etc all we want but realistically the first time someone downloaded even music for free, we knew what free streaming adult content would do to membership-bases, etc...people under a certain age these days don't pay for any of their entertainment...and that age group is getting larger all the time (expanding in both directions)

Honestly, and I assume many here will disagree with me here but the biggest change I noticed was the fact that it is not our industry that's driving new innovations, online conventions, and deciding how people use and experience the internet, it is now social networks and the like. - These have become the driving force, the rudder...its not us any longer.

Do we just need to re-invent ourselves as a group, industry etc...because the only "innovation" I see these days coming from our little community is simply "innovatively undercutting your cometitors and fighting over the same traffic"

Maybe I've just had too much coffee today...but I am all for having discussions about this here, off list, etc...anyone who knows me knows I like to talk shop....maybe we can all firgure out a way to get back to to the glory days, "when the tubes were paved with gold"

just my 2 cents...maybe this all added up to be 3 cents...you folsk can be the judge
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:45 PM   #8
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My biggest gripe would be the lack of community that was felt in the 90s and early 2000s, there is still some left over from that era but today its much less.

People did have disagreements back then, but treated each other with a certain level of respect which today doesn't seem to be there. I also see the same thing in other areas of the world, so maybe its just the way of the world...
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just my 2 cents...maybe this all added up to be 3 cents...you folsk can be the judge
Are we talking US or Canadian cents?
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:49 PM   #10
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Are we talking US or Canadian cents?
lol good point..oh and I used to love, just love getting paid in US $$$
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