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Also, don't be a fucking vagina. Being a prison guard, logger, surgeon, or coal miner is a hard job. Bringing plates back and forth is NOT a hard job... unless you're fucking lazy. |
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But yes, if I'm with a local company, it usually makes other people at the table feel very uncomfortable and they take it as showing off because they usually don't want to tip anything at all or just a few CZK Also if somebody gives me money to pay for the whole bill it will for 100 pct. not include any tip, so I may easily end up paying a tip for three or four people all together.
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its like its on the menu ,you dont like it get up and walk out. My friend works at a high end restaurant here and some big r&b singer came in late and stayed late and he was a very shitty tip. In my experience black people were weak tips(I worked as a bartender), I had a gf yrs ago and she worked at a olive garden mostly black clientele and she had horror story after horror story.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_tipping wonder if this will be the first case to challenge this issue in court and win.
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This I totally agree on. Cultural. Not racial either...cultural.
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how on earth can you be punished for bringing too many customers... the whole tipping culture is bullshit, tip for good service and that's it, if it's shit you should get nothing and start doing your job better!
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I work hard for my money. If you want my money, as a waiter, you better work hard for it in return. I have no problem paying 20% for good service, I also have no problem paying 5% for poor service.
I should never have to seek out a waiter in order to get a drink. If I do, you are getting 5%. I go to a restaurant to be waited on. For an experience. I can get good food, and cheaper, at home.
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Oh please. We both know I'm not going to go out and get a job as a waiter. Don't be such an knee-jerk emotional faggot. We also both know that waitering is not difficult, which is why it's a magnet for the lazy and unskilled. It may be poorly paid, but if you genuinely believe it's particularly difficult then I feel sorry for you. The fact that you would clearly struggle to hold down a job as a waiter is pretty pathetic.
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The only business model where you pay the staff to wander around and "come see how you're making out" from time to time.
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As for the US.. at many high end restaurants, I find some waitstaff overbearing. They have to find that happy medium between meeting my dining needs, and being scarce. As a side note. Tip were given To Insure Prompt Service, and was given at the start of a meal as an incentive.
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The fact that they can legally pay only $2.13 an hour is what is outrageous, but dont mind me I'm completely cynical of that business model as often stated.
They whine with a large lobby for their industry, so thats that.
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Ate at the Pub, The Hard Rock, and a steak place a bit further away. The Hard Rock shut the kitchen down 10 mins early and served Beer that was half full. One of the guys at the table commented that if you did that in Scotland they would smack you over the head with it. The waitress just shrugged it off. Its not like she gets paid any differently. The pub, we waited 15 mins just for a menu and someone to take a drink order.
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Us Brits will just never accept that a Dutch Pint is a Pint. Wars have been fought for less.
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What exactly do you mean by half full beers? Did they have a head or were they actually only half full? Because heads on beers are normal over here(cultural thing). Half empty glasses are not. Other than that, there's good service and there's bad service. Another factor you should take into account is the friendlyness. Americans tend to be overly nice with fake smiles and exagerated interest in the customer. If you're used to that, Dutch waitresses might come across a bit disinterested. But that's simply the way we are. |
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So kid is going to bust his ass with 10 black people needing refills every 20 seconds and then get tipped 1 dollar on 200 bill.. Nice.
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Nigga please, You must have not watched the video because consumer guy (white old guy) explains it for dumb asses like you.
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Most mid-range restaurants will only alot a server 4 or 5 tables per shift, maybe 6-8 for an experienced one, or an average of 12-16 simultaneous customers max.
If a table of 12 people comes in, he has to handle them exclusively and cant take any other tables in order to give them the attention they need. Usually a group that size will not be in any hurry to leave and camp out awhile, effectively making that waiter's entire shift or a good portion of it a one-party affair. If a waiter could normally make 100-200 a night hustling a larger group of higher turnover tables, and has to spend all day with one big table who then decides to leave a couple bucks or nothing, they are gonna be pissed. They are going to be one of the restaurants stronger servers or they wouldn't be trusted with a "bigtop" and they are going to have some pull with the manager because they are one of front of the house team's stronger players that likely picks up a lot of slack for noobs and trainees. So that's why you get "gratted" in large groups. As to whether it's difficult or not, note that most people that are past highschool and college age are also done waiting tables, the physical and mental demands are pretty high and are not inline with the minimal rewards. It's not a job for lazy people, at least not in decent restaurants, its more a job for people with a lot of energy who haven't figure out how to better capitalize on that energy yet. |
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If you have to worry about whether not you have to pay an extra 17% grat. at a restaurant, then eat at home. Problem solved.
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I do agree that around here the time between sitting down -> when the waiter arrives, is way too long. Extremely annoying. Takes too long? I walk away. But that has improved the last couple of years though. |
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being from Czech i give usually 10 percent too, if i am satisfied. if not, then 5 percent and if the things went wrong usually under 5 percent.
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Please do everyone a favor. Stay in fucking Czech and don't ever come here. You're not invited.
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You know, in other places you go into a restaurant and sit down, you have a buzzer on your table to ring and a waiter comes instantly, they take your order as soon as YOU are ready to order. They bring the food as soon as it's cooked. They aren't allowed to accept tips. And the business (amazingly? miraculously?) thrives. I know.. it can be hard to imagine such a thing exists when we're so used to the way things are here.
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Where I live, Pennsylvania, wait staff can, in many instances, legally be paid low as $2.83 per hour. Serving a large group can potentially involve multiple wait staff, though more likely, one person dedicated, as in assigned to few if any other tables, to serving that group - if the group doesn't tip sufficiently, the wait staff person is likely earn close to nothing during their shift... Or to put it another way, serving a large group for a wait staff person is akin to having all their eggs in one basket - hence the often mandatory tip and/or group surcharge. Restaurants should be required to pay full minimum wage, not counting tips, like most all other employers do.
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as someone who use to be a waiter, let me tell you something.
1. tips are actually mandatory as wait stuff are taxed by the government on 10% so. so they actually pay tax on that 10% tip you were supposed to give them. 2. If someone is a dick, they dont deserve a tip. Most wait staff are friendly good looking people, for most of you trolls it is as close as you will get to a hot girl or a hot guy. So you should be nice, they are handling your food for fuck sake. The last time i waited a table, they gave me 23 cents as a tip. I was probably the best waiter going at the time. I could have been serving at 5 Star restaurants, but instead i was at an average restaurant. I made from 100 on a low night to 400 on a good night. When they gave me 23 cents i was currently working night and day. Day at Dell computers in sales, and then at night as a waiter. I walked out into the parking lot, caught up with their car and gave them back the 23 cents. then i went inside and told everyone what i had done. Then i went to the change room, as i came out the manager was there to tell me i didnt need to work that night... no shit sherlock I was headed to Peterborough to go to a PArty, my first weekend off in 2 years. Fuck your restaurant..lol Anyway, these days i top standard 10%...and 20% if they are hot..or did a wicked job. |
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Easier said than done.
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LOL! true, i was shocked that the "head" counted towards the pint. I had to go outside and push over a few bikes to feel better.
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Tamisha thought it was way too much and she ain't getting paid not today, not tomorrow. So suck on this. LOL
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The video clearly states that they paid it already so it's over with.
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Tipping should be eliminated completely.
The sub culture of wait staff thinking they are somehow special and not actually working a shit job is a farce and it should also be eliminated. Any profession where spitting in someones food is understandable has real problems. Even in a nice restaurant the job is on the level of a car salesman, in my opinion. Not to be respected. Most issues revolving around this start with wait staff thinking they are somehow better than they are. EDIT: I guess I should say, I am fine with the majority of servers who perform their job adequately and whom I tip adequately. But the whole prima donna bullshit needs to change. |
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