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Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

If you are so clever, show your money. For some reason I believe you just a poor motherfucker who lives on welfare and a few k $ you are making online. Poor immigrant asshat clown.

BTW, I'm gonna sleep now (1:57am here). Good night!

Good night. Be careful not to wake your mother in-law up, Pipo.

xNetworx · 05-03-2012, 03:02 PM

Anybody notice that in South Beach most places add 15-20% gratuity because of all the foreigners?

mineistaken · 05-03-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

No, he took a job that was available for him where 90% of people tip as expected (read customary), the other 10% consisted of blacks, prom kids, fucking cheap ass euros and old farts will stiff them with shitty tip. The reason owners can pay waiters below minimum wage is because its CUSTOMARY in the US to tip 15%. Whats so difficult to understand?

And why is it so difficult to understand that euros are not cheap ass, they simply are used to different tipping culture, they do not understand that stupid customary and thats wht they tip less, not that they are cheap ass.

fuzebox · 05-03-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

And you still sell porn? Wow, and have no job yet? You must be one of the kind

Selling porn is infinitely better than having a job

MaDalton · 05-03-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

yes that is true. people have to pay 195czk and they say 200 and some still thinks they are the kings. but, we need to learn, still many people lived in communism so nobody teached them how to be nice and reward when you got a good service, they have learned how to save and think only about themself

but we are learning i hope

i have my 10 year anniversary this year of coming here and it got indeed a lot better

some restaurants have very good service nowadays and i am happy to leave a good tip when i go there

mineistaken · 05-03-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

They knew I was from the US. I can't remember where it was but i remember walking all day and stopping at burger king. So I order snack and drink and they give me this child meal cup with 3 sips in it. I downed that in 1 second and asked for some more. Kid gave me this look as if I was asking for his wallet.

That refill thing is really interesting. Why don't they do free refills for fries or onnion rings, but do that for drinks?
They give you weird looks because refill thing is stupid - you get what you pay for. Its not normal that one person takes 1 cup and another person 3 cups for the same price, its just stupid.
Any world citizen would give you weird looks for asking that. Except for those who has been in the sates and saw this strange custom

mineistaken · 05-03-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

"We are" as in we are Americans dumb fuck.

You are not american, you are russian. You are american citizen, but not american.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Most restaurants have "large party" fee on their menus. Its not to discourage but reward server for inconvenience of running multiple checks, endless refills and so on. You have no idea how difficult it is to make endless runs for refills, taking orders and answering questions all at the same time.

This thread is full of really pwoor waiters.

brassmonkey · 05-03-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Is that a racial thing?

go take a nap

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

You are not american, you are russian. You are american citizen, but not american.

Fuck off. I was raised here, so Im an American. Who the fuck are you to tell me that?

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

That refill thing is really interesting. Why don't they do free refills for fries or onnion rings, but do that for drinks?
They give you weird looks because refill thing is stupid - you get what you pay for. Its not normal that one person takes 1 cup and another person 3 cups for the same price, its just stupid.
Any world citizen would give you weird looks for asking that. Except for those who has been in the sates and saw this strange custom

Its another custom. Some places have infinite salads. Why is it stupid? All you can eat places are stupid too?

qwe · 05-03-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Good night. Be careful not to wake your mother in-law up, Pipo.

you two are like two little girls in kindergartner arguing... vot eta nasha problema, mu vcegda proyiv svoix pizdim, kakaya raznica gde vu, v rosie ili amerike, vce slavene vce narmali'no

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

This thread is full of really pwoor waiters.

Why do you care if they are poor or not? I knew this one old French guy who waited tables all his life. Came here on Queen marry or something. Always bitched how Americans can't serve tables, don't know anything about wines and shit, grumpy 50 year old man. Well, according to him he was making 150K in 80's at some super fancy place in NY, but that doesn't mean some kid at TGF makes 10% of that.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Why do you care if they are poor or not? I knew this one old French guy who waited tables all his life. Came here on Queen marry or something. Always bitched how Americans can't serve tables, don't know anything about wines and shit, grumpy 50 year old man. Well, according to him he was making 150K in 80's at some super fancy place in NY, but that doesn't mean some kid at TGF makes 10% of that.

I'm not talking about poor money wise. But how some of you ex waiters really feel sorry for yourself that you had to work so hard at this amazing job of waiting tables and got paid so little you almost died of starvation.

CurrentlySober · 05-03-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dating Port

I'm black...

There in lies the problem...

J/K !

I feel yah.. I am white, but I tend to dress like a scruffy homeless guy... I get treated like I dont have a penny in my pocket, because I dont choose to wear expensive clothing...

Go figure

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I'm not talking about poor money wise. But how some of you ex waiters really feel sorry for yourself that you had to work so hard at this amazing job of waiting tables and got paid so little you almost died of starvation.

Never did I say 'we" got paid so little. As matter of fact it paid for most of my college. The point is if I waiter gives good service, he's entitled to 15% on top of the bill. Now this is US so what ever the fuck you guys tip in Holland, you tip that in Holland. This is the US and waiters don't get paid shit per hour so their source of income is "your tip". Now if service was terrible, you talk to manager and he fixes things. What I dont get is some fuck telling you at the end his steak was overcooked, soda didn't have enough gas, salad was to greasy and so on.. That shit doesn't fly. Or some euro guy leaves you 2 dollar tip because thats how they do it in mother fucking Bavaria.

and just because you think they made enough for the day, doesn't give you right to take what supposed to be theirs.

baddog · 05-03-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by StripperCash

Anybody notice that in South Beach most places add 15-20% gratuity because of all the foreigners?

There are a few places I have been that cater to Europeans that add the tip to all restaurant bills.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Never did I say 'we" got paid so little. As matter of fact it paid for most of my college. The point is if I waiter gives good service, he's entitled to 15% on top of the bill. Now this is US so what ever the fuck you guys tip in Holland, you tip that in Holland. This is the US and waiters don't get paid shit per hour so their source of income is "your tip". Now if service was terrible, you talk to manager and he fixes things. What I dont get is some fuck telling you at the end his steak was overcooked, soda didn't have enough gas, salad was to greasy and so on.. That shit doesn't fly. Or some euro guy leaves you 2 dollar tip because thats how they do it in mother fucking Bavaria.

and just because you think they made enough for the day, doesn't give you right to take what supposed to be theirs.

I'm not sure why you keep repeating this. Afaik there is not one person here from the EU who said he wouldn't tip enough on purpose while visiting the US. You seem very upset about this but wtf are aiming at?

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 04:28 PM

Basically any club/bar/stripclub/restaurant i've been to the waiters got ridiculous amounts of tips. That would easily be 5x what a waiter here would make getting paid per hour. It looks to me the tipping thing got totally out of control. And funny enough it's those waiter who cry the hardest and refuse to help people etc.
Very fucked up system/attitude.

u-Bob · 05-03-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

The fact that they can legally pay only $2.13 an hour is what is outrageous, but dont mind me I'm completely cynical of that business model as often stated.

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Of course it's hard menial labor, which is why people like me think they should be paid more. PAID more, not tipped more. Paid by the company that hires them what their work is worth. The system should change from the top down, not from the bottom up.

It's the people at the bottom that determine how much they get paid. It's the workers that determine how things work.

The reason business owners are able to hire people for $2.13 an hour is because there's people who are willing to work for that much. If no one was willing to work for $2.13 an hour, the business owner wouldn't be able to hire anyone for $2.13 an hour. The fact that business owners continue to be able to hire people for $2.13 an hour (+the chance of getting a tip in this case) means that people are actually competing to get those jobs.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Basically any club/bar/stripclub/restaurant i've been to the waiters got ridiculous amounts of tips. That would easily be 5x what a waiter here would make getting paid per hour. It looks to me the tipping thing got totally out of control. And funny enough it's those waiter who cry the hardest and refuse to help people etc.
Very fucked up system/attitude.

That I have a problem with, especially bars. Paying $1 - $1.50 tip on $7 beer is too much. Especially if its 3.4% special beer and it takes 15 of those to get the a buzz.

Nembrionic · 05-03-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

FYI: he's died already.

FYI: he isn't dead. Get your facts straight.

Mr Pheer · 05-03-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

There in lies the problem...

J/K !

I feel yah.. I am white, but I tend to dress like a scruffy homeless guy... I get treated like I dont have a penny in my pocket, because I dont choose to wear expensive clothing...

Go figure

But you wear a $280 pair of sunglasses.

The Porn Nerd · 05-03-2012, 06:31 PM

When i see the gratuity added I usually throw something on top of it anyway. But I basically do a straight-up 20%. Seems fair, yes?

DBS.US · 05-03-2012, 06:35 PM

Why do most people tip food servers but not the utility man (Cable TV/Internet/Phone) ? The utility man climbs up a pole and the food server just walks to the back room?

baddog · 05-03-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Why do most people tip food servers but not the utility man (Cable TV/Internet/Phone) ? The utility man climbs up a pole and the food server just walks to the back room?

When I worked for the phone company, then after I started doing it on my own, I had a few people tip me. Usually people from New York I noticed.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

When i see the gratuity added I usually throw something on top of it anyway. But I basically do a straight-up 20%. Seems fair, yes?

If service was OK I do 15%, little extra effort with lids for kids drinks, extra dressing on the side - 20%. Really good service but not irritating bullshit about my favorite ball team or any other subject that will keep me talking to waiter for more than 2 minutes - 25%. Sometimes when I see mid-life crisis gal working at TGIF with kids to support, I'll give 30%.
I just feel bad for anyone over 30 doing this shitty job dealing with cheap asses, blacks and foreigners.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

When I worked for the phone company, then after I started doing it on my own, I had a few people tip me. Usually people from New York I noticed.

Cable guys get tipped all the time. Buddy of mine worked for Comcast in LA.

TheSquealer · 05-03-2012, 07:17 PM

These conversations are always funny. The bottom tier of society always quick to chime in to tell everyone what they are entitled to and what everyone owes them.

Minimum wage for wait staff is $2.31/hr because people make up the balance in tips. Here's a life tip for you... you're not supposed to be relishing your job as a waiter in a crap restaurant. You're supposed to be using it as a temporary solution to move to something better, not making menial, no talent labor jobs a career. You're not supposed to be demanding more money for shoveling shit. You're supposed to be aspiring to something better.

And yeah... you go to a restaurant and eat by yourself and you aren't obligated to tip. You bring 10 friends and spend a $1000.00 that night and suddenly you're obligated to pay a nuisance tax because too many people are spending money in that restaurant. That's a joke and a situation I always avoid. I always tip until service is shitty, then it's $0.00 from me.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

suddenly you're obligated to pay a nuisance tax because too many people are spending money in that restaurant.

No, its because you want to have comfort of sitting all together, bullshit for 2 hours, be extremely obnoxious to other people sitting around you and most importantly run your waiter for you fucking refills as if he was your valet parking boy. On top of that every one of you motherfuckers want him to remember what kind of dressing you had on the side, explain every dish you want to change your mind about (while he's taking order from someone else), tell him some cool joke he's heard 10 times before and most importantly act as if you are the one picking up the bill. And at the end you bless him with "Hmmmmmm, can we have separate checks, please"...

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

No, its because you want to have comfort of sitting all together, bullshit for 2 hours, be extremely obnoxious to other people sitting around you and most importantly run your waiter for you fucking refills as if he was your valet parking boy. On top of that every one of you motherfuckers want him to remember what kind of dressing you had on the side, explain every dish you want to change your mind about (while he's taking order from someone else), tell him some cool joke he's heard 10 times before and most importantly act as if you are the one picking up the bill. And at the end you bless him with "Hmmmmmm, can we have separate checks, please"...

You know what? Don't go fucking work in a restaurant if you can't handle people who visit restaurants. You really have a twisted view on things.

TheSquealer · 05-03-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

No, its because you want to have comfort of sitting all together, bullshit for 2 hours, be extremely obnoxious to other people sitting around you and most importantly run your waiter for you fucking refills as if he was your valet parking boy. On top of that every one of you motherfuckers want him to remember what kind of dressing you had on the side, explain every dish you want to change your mind about (while he's taking order from someone else), tell him some cool joke he's heard 10 times before and most importantly act as if you are the one picking up the bill. And at the end you bless him with "Hmmmmmm, can we have separate checks, please"...

Yeah. Silly me. I want to sit down in a restaurant and have a waiter do his job.

Crazy shit.

Sly · 05-03-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

No, its because you want to have comfort of sitting all together, bullshit for 2 hours, be extremely obnoxious to other people sitting around you and most importantly run your waiter for you fucking refills as if he was your valet parking boy. On top of that every one of you motherfuckers want him to remember what kind of dressing you had on the side, explain every dish you want to change your mind about (while he's taking order from someone else), tell him some cool joke he's heard 10 times before and most importantly act as if you are the one picking up the bill. And at the end you bless him with "Hmmmmmm, can we have separate checks, please"...

This attitude is why I don't like going to restaurants. Too many servers think like this today. And then they want 15%, regardless of their service and attitude.

The whole situation is chicken and egg. Servers need to realize that people want good service. Some will pay, some will not. That's how it goes. But being a bad server will definitely not make you more money and it will not keep people coming back to your restaurant. There is absolutely no advantage to being a bad server, regardless of how terrible the customer is.

From the customer standpoint, they simply don't care. I am paying the restaurant money. I do not care what problems the server has today. I want to be treated well. I want good food. I want a cold drink. And I don't want to chase down my server so I can order another drink. If your restaurant does not give me what I want, I don't go back. There are plenty of other restaurants. Eventually I'll find one that knows how to give decent service. It's usually the small mom and pops.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You know what? Don't go fucking work in a restaurant if you can't handle people who visit restaurants. You really have a twisted view on things.

Jesus, don't go into on-line porn if you can't handle chargebacks. Do they piss you off? Sure as fuck. Will you quit ibecause it happens to you once in a while? Are you that fucking stupid?

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 07:56 PM

Alex acts as if he is the most important person a restaurant and everyone and everything has to adjust to him.
Till today i never heard about this big group thing and people thinking it's totally normal that they have to pay more. Or that it's normal not to help them I'm kinda shocked actually. It's crazy!

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Jesus, don't go into on-line porn if you can't handle chargebacks. Do they piss you off? Sure as fuck. Will you quit ibecause it happens to you once in a while? Are you that fucking stupid?

Wtf?

God, you're an imbecile.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

This attitude is why I don't like going to restaurants. Too many servers think like this today. And then they want 15%, regardless of their service and attitude.

Dude, those kids have 5 to 7 tables like yours, and they all want their shit on the side, extra napkins, pen to write down you date's number etc. I tell you what, if you never worked that job, you will never understand it. You work some what service industry too. If you website was like "I guaranty you get full hard on what on preview and if not you just give me 5% of 29.99" you'd understand.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Dude, those kids have 5 to 7 tables like yours, and they all want their shit on the side, extra napkins, pen to write down you date's number etc. I tell you what, if you never worked that job, you will never understand it. You work some what service industry too. If you website was like "I guaranty you get full hard on what on preview and if not you just give me 5% of 29.99" you'd understand.

Don't go work in a fucking restaurant then you dumb fuck! Jesus!

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Wtf?

God, you're an imbecile.

And you're cheap ass Dutch imbecile.
Tell me how phrase "We go Dutch" came up... Cheap ass.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/go+Dutch

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Don't go work in a fucking restaurant then you dumb fuck! Jesus!

Its one of the best jobs you can have while going to school. As long as you eliminate cheap asses, blacks, marry kay idiots, old people, euros and especially Dutch.
Other than that it covers bills.

faxxaff · 05-03-2012, 08:39 PM

Reminds me about a hotel stay in Dubai. My Chamber maid knocked on the door after I checked in. Over there maids are guys. He demanded a tip up front because he would not be on duty the day I check out. I told him I might leave a tip when I check out, but he wanted it, now. He got more aggressive. Hahaha.

Sly · 05-04-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Dude, those kids have 5 to 7 tables like yours, and they all want their shit on the side, extra napkins, pen to write down you date's number etc. I tell you what, if you never worked that job, you will never understand it. You work some what service industry too. If you website was like "I guaranty you get full hard on what on preview and if not you just give me 5% of 29.99" you'd understand.

You are right. I do work in the service industry, of sorts. Sometimes I get burned, sometimes I make a killing. If I went into every situation thinking that I was going to get burned, I would get burned a hell of a lot more than I do right now.

I have plenty of examples where I have bent over backwards to help out affiliates, building them custom tools and landing pages and got nothing in return. No traffic at all. Other situations where I did the same bending over backwards and the affiliate turned into a whale that stayed with me for years. Sometimes you score, sometimes you get screwed.

That's what the service business is. It's good for some people, some it's not. It sounds like it's not for you.

Nembrionic · 05-04-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

That I have a problem with, especially bars. Paying $1 - $1.50 tip on $7 beer is too much. Especially if its 3.4% special beer and it takes 15 of those to get the a buzz.

Hang on...you keep screaming that paying a 15% tip is normal and people who don't are stupid.

But then you say: "Oh, I don't want to pay a $1 tip on a $7 beer", which is about 15%.

So what is it. Pay tip or pay no tip? I mean, I completely agree with you that it's rediculous to pay a tip on a beer but now you're just being inconsistent.

Also...saying you don't want to tip on a beer because the ABV is low is LUDICROUS. Get a different beer. Since when is the ABV relevant to how much you tip?

Dating Port · 05-04-2012, 08:35 AM

I tip extremely well in bars and I get remembered with great service. It also translates into free shots and free beers so a $1 tip on a $7 beer doesn't seem so bad after all.

Tom_PM · 05-04-2012, 08:35 AM

I don't think it can change from the bottom up because of the word "tips". It's used because there's a tax procedure for tips. You change it to something more accurate and unobjectionable and you make the employer have to withhold taxes. If they're going to do that, they may as well pay a higher base pay and we know that's not happening. Anyway, I object to the word "tip" or "gratuity" because that's not what it is.

Tom_PM · 05-04-2012, 08:48 AM

I should say it's not a tip or gratuity when it's being called mandatory of course. How some people don't understand that is just a mystery of the modern age. Make any fee you want part of the price for the customer, but it's not a fucking tip unless someone gave it to you unexpectedly. Make sense? Of course it does.

Just Alex · 05-04-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I don't think it can change from the bottom up because of the word "tips". It's used because there's a tax procedure for tips. You change it to something more accurate and unobjectionable and you make the employer have to withhold taxes. If they're going to do that, they may as well pay a higher base pay and we know that's not happening. Anyway, I object to the word "tip" or "gratuity" because that's not what it is.

They do! Thats what 2.13 is for. If you wait tables for living odds are very high to be audited.

Just Alex · 05-04-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Hang on...you keep screaming that paying a 15% tip is normal and people who don't are stupid.

But then you say: "Oh, I don't want to pay a $1 tip on a $7 beer", which is about 15%.

So what is it. Pay tip or pay no tip? I mean, I completely agree with you that it's rediculous to pay a tip on a beer but now you're just being inconsistent.

Also...saying you don't want to tip on a beer because the ABV is low is LUDICROUS. Get a different beer. Since when is the ABV relevant to how much you tip?

I didn't say "I don't want to", I said "I have problem with it".

baddog · 05-04-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

And you're cheap ass Dutch imbecile.
Tell me how phrase "We go Dutch" came up... Cheap ass.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/go+Dutch

I had to laugh as I recall when I was a young teen my mom telling me she avoided dates with Dutch guys because of them always wanting to "go Dutch."

baddog · 05-04-2012, 10:12 AM

A 250 tip?

05-03-2012, 04:28 PM	#219
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Basically any club/bar/stripclub/restaurant i've been to the waiters got ridiculous amounts of tips. That would easily be 5x what a waiter here would make getting paid per hour. It looks to me the tipping thing got totally out of control. And funny enough it's those waiter who cry the hardest and refuse to help people etc. Very fucked up system/attitude. Last edited by Dirty F; 05-03-2012 at 04:30 PM..

05-03-2012, 06:31 PM	#224
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,548	When i see the gratuity added I usually throw something on top of it anyway. But I basically do a straight-up 20%. Seems fair, yes? __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

05-03-2012, 06:35 PM	#225
DBS.US Geo Cities Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA Posts: 11,830	Why do most people tip food servers but not the utility man (Cable TV/Internet/Phone) ? The utility man climbs up a pole and the food server just walks to the back room? __________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight

05-03-2012, 07:17 PM	#229
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,140	These conversations are always funny. The bottom tier of society always quick to chime in to tell everyone what they are entitled to and what everyone owes them. Minimum wage for wait staff is $2.31/hr because people make up the balance in tips. Here's a life tip for you... you're not supposed to be relishing your job as a waiter in a crap restaurant. You're supposed to be using it as a temporary solution to move to something better, not making menial, no talent labor jobs a career. You're not supposed to be demanding more money for shoveling shit. You're supposed to be aspiring to something better. And yeah... you go to a restaurant and eat by yourself and you aren't obligated to tip. You bring 10 friends and spend a $1000.00 that night and suddenly you're obligated to pay a nuisance tax because too many people are spending money in that restaurant. That's a joke and a situation I always avoid. I always tip until service is shitty, then it's $0.00 from me. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard Last edited by TheSquealer; 05-03-2012 at 07:29 PM..

05-03-2012, 07:56 PM	#235
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Alex acts as if he is the most important person a restaurant and everyone and everything has to adjust to him. Till today i never heard about this big group thing and people thinking it's totally normal that they have to pay more. Or that it's normal not to help them I'm kinda shocked actually. It's crazy! Last edited by Dirty F; 05-03-2012 at 07:59 PM..

05-03-2012, 03:02 PM	#202
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Anybody notice that in South Beach most places add 15-20% gratuity because of all the foreigners?

05-03-2012, 08:39 PM	#241
faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	Reminds me about a hotel stay in Dubai. My Chamber maid knocked on the door after I checked in. Over there maids are guys. He demanded a tip up front because he would not be on duty the day I check out. I told him I might leave a tip when I check out, but he wanted it, now. He got more aggressive. Hahaha. __________________ Asian Babes

05-04-2012, 08:35 AM	#244
Dating Port Useless As Ever Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 731	I tip extremely well in bars and I get remembered with great service. It also translates into free shots and free beers so a $1 tip on a $7 beer doesn't seem so bad after all. __________________ Email: admin[at]datingport.co.uk - ICQ: 456416181 It's amazing what you (L)earn when you put some effort into it!

05-04-2012, 08:35 AM	#245
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I don't think it can change from the bottom up because of the word "tips". It's used because there's a tax procedure for tips. You change it to something more accurate and unobjectionable and you make the employer have to withhold taxes. If they're going to do that, they may as well pay a higher base pay and we know that's not happening. Anyway, I object to the word "tip" or "gratuity" because that's not what it is. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

05-04-2012, 08:48 AM	#246
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I should say it's not a tip or gratuity when it's being called mandatory of course. How some people don't understand that is just a mystery of the modern age. Make any fee you want part of the price for the customer, but it's not a fucking tip unless someone gave it to you unexpectedly. Make sense? Of course it does. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

05-04-2012, 10:12 AM	#250
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	A 250 tip?