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Old 05-07-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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Business a bit limp?? NETbilling can help!!

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What's a point of thread if zero info provided?Where is info like fee,registration requirements,who can register account,difference between merchant and ordinary account,what you can process,etc...
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nice promo with the on/off switch thingy and all
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I have to admit I used Netbill's tech support the other day for the first time, their response was quick, and they quickly helped me out. Nice job.
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What's a point of thread if zero info provided?Where is info like fee,registration requirements,who can register account,difference between merchant and ordinary account,what you can process,etc...
Are you saying this thread is limp?
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What's a point of thread if zero info provided?Where is info like fee,registration requirements,who can register account,difference between merchant and ordinary account,what you can process,etc...
Our sales department is happy to provide all of the information that you would like. We have so many options and banks that it is far too much to post in a thread.

888-357-8166 or [email protected]

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nice promo with the on/off switch thingy and all
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spam thread, delete this shit.

Or post up some offers.

Like anyone who signs up on May 8th, netbilling will cover all fees from banks etc.
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i havent needed netbilling support for so long i doubt they even remember me lol
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Nice promo!

Two accounts with netbilling and wouldn't go anywhere else!

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spam thread, delete this shit.

Or post up some offers.

Like anyone who signs up on May 8th, netbilling will cover all fees from banks etc.
We offer you the best processing and friendliest support on the planet.

Did you miss our offer from April 1?

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Of course we know you and thanks for your business!

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What's a point of thread if zero info provided?Where is info like fee,registration requirements,who can register account,difference between merchant and ordinary account,what you can process,etc...
I think they needed a picture of C-Luv (preferably barefoot) in the advertisement.

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So why both switchers say OTHERS when one sucks and other one works, may be you meant OTHERS for the one that is facing down only?
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So why both switchers say OTHERS when one sucks and other one works, may be you meant OTHERS for the one that is facing down only?
Here, I fixed it for you...



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great job looks nicer and makes better sense
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indeed it does
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I am the one who pointed to this lame error LOL.
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indeed it does
You should send kudos to me. Btw, did HoneLynn get you my skype details ?
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Love it. We don't charge to setup with NETbilling. Welcome aboard.
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So why both switchers say OTHERS when one sucks and other one works, may be you meant OTHERS for the one that is facing down only?
Good point and thanks or the input
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Fundamental difference. The problem would have not been solved without admitting there was one.
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My pleasure.
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I think I did ;) You were out of the country at the time so maybe it didn't come through?
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well , as it happens the problem was with me, was out of town and did'nt re adjust my skype settings, when I got back
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Hehe, no worries. I still can't program my remote ;)
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How can you not understand how the graphic is confusing and makes little sense?... US/US.. OTHERS/OTHERS?

Not only that.. how many people recognize those types of toggle switches and associate them with turning anything on? People first get confused, then get caught up in "what the hell are those things..." plus there is the added confusion of bent metal causing another moment of pause/user confusion to figure out whats going on with that.

Why is there 2 switches?,... when there only needs to be one? That is also confusing and adds nothing to the message.

Marketing is not the place to be clever. It's to be clear and succinct where people can not only understand the message at a glance, but also decide "i want that" at a glance.

Even weirder... what are you offering? "A robust suite of solutions?" What is that? Why is that different than everyone else who is saying the exact same thing. Why/How are you different in what you're offering? Why is it better? What is it exactly and how do i benefit?

Ok.. nevermind. just add a 3rd switch and call it good.
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DHD is a good company as well. We are friends with the owners.
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How can you not understand how the graphic is confusing and makes little sense?... US/US.. OTHERS/OTHERS?

Not only that.. how many people recognize those types of toggle switches and associate them with turning anything on? People first get confused, then get caught up in "what the hell are those things..." plus there is the added confusion of bent metal causing another moment of pause/user confusion to figure out whats going on with that.

Why is there 2 switches?,... when there only needs to be one? That is also confusing and adds nothing to the message.

Marketing is not the place to be clever. It's to be clear and succinct where people can not only understand the message at a glance, but also decide "i want that" at a glance.

Even weirder... what are you offering? "A robust suite of solutions?" What is that? Why is that different than everyone else who is saying the exact same thing. Why/How are you different in what you're offering? Why is it better? What is it exactly and how do i benefit?

Ok.. nevermind. just add a 3rd switch and call it good.
I do totally appreciate your input and you have some valid points.

This ad is certainly different than our previous more traditional ads. However, at this point in the places that we advertise in the adult industry, it is mostly about branding for us at this point. 90% or more of merchants that have merchant accounts process with us anyway so it is more to be a little clever and to keep our name out there. Anyone in the industry who has been around for a bit knows what we do, and what we offer... the same thing for the past 14 years. Of course we do get new clients every day and are extremely happy for that. However, we want to give people something fresh to look at, think about, and get a smile or a good chuckle once in awhile too and this is one of those ads as I am sure you can tell based on the text that reads from the graphic, including the headline.

It is pretty clear in the revamped graphic that up is "turn on" and down is link and a "turn off"...

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great job looks nicer and makes better sense
Indeed, the original just made absolutely no sense at all.

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No. You are trying to say your solution is good and all the others are bad, right?

So, you need to mark YOUR 'switch' as being on, and the others being limp.

This is very basic stuff.
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yeah the design was funny but mitch sounds like a nice guy good luck with the business
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Anyone in the industry who has been around for a bit knows what we do, and what we offer... the same thing for the past 14 years.
Ah, right, so your ads don't explain what you do because you don't want to attract new clients. Cool.

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we want to give people something fresh to look at, think about, and get a smile or a good chuckle once in awhile too and this is one of those ads as I am sure you can tell based on the text that reads from the graphic, including the headline.

It is pretty clear in the revamped graphic that up is "turn on" and down is link and a "turn off"...
It's pretty clear that it isn't clear. Why is the 'turn on' switch branded as 'others'? It should be 'net billing'.

You are comparing yourself with the "others". So, one switch should be you, and be "on" and the other switch should be flaccid and labelled "others".

Otherwise you are labelling the 'on' switch (you) as 'others'. Whereas is should be labelled 'you'.

As everyone is telling you! But fundamentally, there are more problems with the ad.

a) it's not great to try and compare yourself with your competition just by saying your competition are all limp dicked without explaining why they are or what you do that is better. It's just name calling otherwise.

b) it's clearly "inspired" by this famous ad:




Some other ideas:

1) Have a big trawler net full of money, and another net with big holes in with money gushing through it.

2) Children's story book style illustration with "there's a hole in my bucket, dear Cadwell, dear Cadwell"

3) Show how in control a client is with you, vs a competitive IPSP: amazing juggler keeping multiple objects under control vs juggler that has dropped everything, guy in charge of bank of NASA like control terminals vs bloke at home on a crappy old PC, guy in monster truck rolling over loads of cars vs bloke in little crappy car rolling over some matchbox toy cars, etc etc

4) Scales with lots of money on one side, and less money on the other side

5) two apple pies, one with a small slice gone, one with a large slice gone, identical pies. "Some IPSPS take a very large percentage of your profit. We take a very small slice."

etc etc etc

I know it's very popular in the states, but I really think ads that just say "we are great, our competition suck" are bad. It would be better to say WHY you are good and concentrate on your USPS. IMHO!



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Whilst the idea of a flacid and erect cock is a good angle and fits well with processing for adult, you guys really messed up the delivery of the point.

But hey. It's a step up from the normal Netbilling "Process for free (only joking)" threads.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:01 AM   #50
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Just hire Damian.

If he gives you all that for free, imagine what you get when you pay him.

Good stuff mate.
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