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Old 10-01-2013, 03:17 PM   #51
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Oh boy. So you won't go to the doctor if you have symptoms of cancer, a heart attack, a stroke or a compound fracture?
I am not sure what you're hang up is on baddog and his beliefs? Just because the dude is old and has a beard doesn't make him Confucius, Moses, or Yoda. Much less 'wise' in any sense of the word. He's welcome to kill himself off with whatever pixie dust he chooses to believe wields magic powers.

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Old 10-01-2013, 03:17 PM   #52
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Nit pick all you want bad dog it is what it is has nothing to do with riding...could be any expensive thing to treat like I said I would agree with you if society would simply let you die if you couldnt pay for the services but somewhere along the line we decided that life is valuable over all else and thus healthcare is a right...so soxciety...meaning all of us have to pay for that. You dont like it work to change it or go someplace where you feel more at home those are your only real options.....Im surprised you arent on medicare anyway prolly close if not in which case its a moot point for you.
You must have missed it earlier, I do not go to doctors.
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If I had a broken leg or arm, something like that, I'd have little choice . . . and I'd pay.

I certainly would not pay to find out if I had cancer or not; I would not go through that misery just to squeak out a couple more years.
Do you wear a "do not resuscitate" bracelet? If you have a heart attack and don't have consent over your medical treatment what will you do in that event? Rack up medical bills we all have to pay?
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:22 PM   #55
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I am not sure what you're hang up is on baddog and his beliefs? Just because the dude is old and has a beard doesn't make him Confucius, Moses, or Yoda. Much less 'wise' in any sense of the word. He's welcome to kill himself off with whatever pixie dust he chooses to believe wields magic powers.

Yah I shouldn't mess with natural selection.
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Do you wear a "do not resuscitate" bracelet? If you have a heart attack and don't have consent over your medical treatment what will you do in that event? Rack up medical bills we all have to pay?
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Under Obamacare I get fined if I don't get insurance. WTF is up with that? I do not go to doctors, why do I need insurance? If something happens I will deal with it. Insurance is a sucker's bet; you are betting something bad will happen, I am betting it won't.
Sucker bet ... lol ...

My brother in law house burned to the ground 10 years agoi. Antique house, built circa 1810 .

He had an insurance ' cost of rebuilding ' : Lyod`s ( lol ... just happens they were the insurer ) paid a bit over a mil to pay for rebuilding ' as it was ' ....

Sucker bet ... sure

PS: I am a sucker as I insure my car, my house , my condo in florida, my 2 rental properties .... and my life !
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:25 PM   #58
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I have known many people that have had huge medical bills...hundreds of thousands of dollars...that did not have insurance...none of them lost their homes...or anything else. Most of them paid at the bill what theY felt they could afford and not necessarily what the hospital or doctors wanted to be paid...with out any legal problems. A few that...didn't even pay at the bill...had a lien put on their house. So I think that people losing their homes because of medical bills is pretty much pigshit.
go back with you millions in the wood .... ya pig shit !

Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies
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The problem with the United States is there are enough people who believe the lies of Michael Moore and the Democratic Party.
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The problem with the United States is there are enough people who believe the lies of Michael Moore and the Democratic Party.


so you believe the truths of the republican party?

the republican party that isn't that popular with republicans themselves?
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so you believe the truths of the republican party?

the republican party that isn't that popular with republicans themselves?
Check out Hattrick 16 other posts ... that will clear things up ....
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go back with you millions in the wood .... ya pig shit !

Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies
I am aware of the stats on bankruptcies. The key word is "prompt". One has the choice of bankruptcy but no one is forced to declare bankruptcy and even bankruptcy does not automatically mean the loss of ones house. How are border crossings going for you...sport?
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The problem with the United States is there are enough people who believe the lies of Michael Moore . . .
Pretty accurate comment.
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I am aware of the stats on bankruptcies. The key word is "prompt". One has the choice of bankruptcy but no one is forced to declare bankruptcy and even bankruptcy does not automatically mean the loss of ones house. How are border crossings going for you...sport?
Fine .... Was in Mexico last week , went a few times to Vermont this summer .... even tough I do have 2 stamps from Cuba in my passport ....

How are your millions doing, sport ???
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Check out Hattrick 16 other posts ... that will clear things up ....
i guess he's never heard of RomneyCare

a carbon copy of obamacare, just done by a republican
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50% down from 56%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ealth_care_law

I would imagine most of those 50% are employed. The other not.
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:10 PM   #68
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The problem with the United States is there are enough people who believe the lies of Michael Moore and the Democratic Party.
The problem is there is always someone who will believe someone else's lies. It doesn't matter if it's Michael Moore, the Democratic Party, or the GOP.

The problem is huge with the Internet - anyone can spin a handful of questionable incidents into a profitable business such as the 9/11 Truth movement. And sheep will follow.
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Funny, everytime the right does stupid shit that even their own supporters cant agree with, those very same supporters try to justify the actions by blaming both parties or saying they are both alike..

Umm sorry they are not both alike and they are NOT both to blame. The Republican party has brought this on themselves.

They have been a two bit whore first to the neo cons, then the religious right and now the the wacko tea party.

You guys have fucked your own party up and now are trying to fuck up the entire country chasing your dumb fairy tales of how you think the govt should run.

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Didn't realize he made a movie about himself? Albeit a no brainer as a globalist authoritarian minion... why wouldn't he? Anything that benefits me, is what's best for you!
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How is a guy who has been a senator for 6 months controlling the entire government? John Boehner needs to quit being a pussy and get control of these terrorists.
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John Boehner needs to quit being a pussy and get control of these terrorists.
What terrorists? The ones the government created for you to believe in?
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What terrorists? The ones the government created for you to believe in?
Loosen up your tin foil hat.
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Loosen up your tin foil hat.
Never had one, I let them scan my brain. Where do you think they get the lies they feed you?
What's your excuse?
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Ted Cruz is on the O'reilly factor, and Bill is giving him a pretty hard time.

When the king of bullshit calls you on your bullshit, you know you're a turd.
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Never had one
What's your excuse?
Are the screws on your headgear too tight?
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Ted Cruz is on the O'reilly factor, and Bill is giving him a pretty hard time.

When the king of bullshit calls you on your bullshit, you know you're a turd.
Bill O'reilly started out as a truther until he sold out. Why do you think he's pissed all the time? Hard to live with yourself when you know you are a minion in Hitlers (NWO) regime.
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Since when does tin foil require screws?
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Funny, everytime the right does stupid shit that even their own supporters cant agree with, those very same supporters try to justify the actions by blaming both parties or saying they are both alike..

Umm sorry they are not both alike and they are NOT both to blame. The Republican party has brought this on themselves.

They have been a two bit whore first to the neo cons, then the religious right and now the the wacko tea party.

You guys have fucked your own party up and now are trying to fuck up the entire country chasing your dumb fairy tales of how you think the govt should run.

Yep. All day long all I've heard is lie after lie coming from just about every republican congressman that opened his mouth. They just blatantly lie knowing a few morons out there will pick up on their BS and repeat their crap like a parrot. I think they've really fucked themselves this time though as I don't think people will forget this little stunt but nothing I see amazes me any more.
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Yep. All day long all I've heard is lie after lie coming from just about every republican congressman that opened his mouth. They just blatantly lie knowing a few morons out there will pick up on their BS and repeat their crap like a parrot. I think they've really fucked themselves this time though as I don't think people will forget this little stunt but nothing I see amazes me any more.
Welp, this tells me you simply don't get it. The whole shabang, you have no clue.
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It's like arguing with a cop that the speed limit is too low. Little fucking late after the law was debated, passed, adjudicated and now put into effect. There never was anything to compromise on, just some pricks whining like babies.
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I see that you do
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It's like arguing with a cop that the speed limit is too low. Little fucking late after the law was debated, passed, adjudicated and now put into effect. There never was anything to compromise on, just some pricks whining like babies.
It was never debated, if I need to remind you Nancy Pelosi said "We'll find out what's in it after it's passed." How can you debate something that you know nothing about?
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Baddog, maybe it could be thought of in another way. I know you consider yourself a responsible person, and I'm sure you'd say the vast majority of others aren't as responsible. So there's far fewer good people who take care of themselves and don't expect to be taken care of than there are people who don't plan ahead.

So if this new law makes *everyone* contribute, isn't that going to affect moreso that larger percentage of the population who aren't responsible, honest people? So if that large chunk of people is contributing the lion's share to ensuring all the kids with shitty parents get proper healthcare... Maybe it's not so bad.

I mean in a sense it's another indrect tax. Most people don't even end up paying much if anything in income tax with their part time jobs etc. So from a conservative viewpoint, isn't this a way of getting those people to kick something in?

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If I had a broken leg or arm, something like that, I'd have little choice . . . and I'd pay.
But Baddog, what if it costs you $50,000 to set your arm? Would you still pay then?


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I certainly would not pay to find out if I had cancer or not; I would not go through that misery just to squeak out a couple more years.
Wouldn't you want your wife to get screening so she could know far in advance that she may develop breast cancer and then begin preventative treatment for it? What about your kids or parents? Just because you don't want to live doesn't mean people around you don't.
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But Baddog, what if it costs you $50,000 to set your arm? Would you still pay then?




Wouldn't you want your wife to get screening so she could know far in advance that she may develop breast cancer and then begin preventative treatment for it? What about your kids or parents? Just because you don't want to live doesn't mean people around you don't.
You really don't understand the US medical system if you think it would cost $50k to set an arm.

I don't have a wife; my g/f, kids and dad all have insurance. They can do as they wish.
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But Baddog, what if it costs you $50,000 to set your arm? Would you still pay then?




Wouldn't you want your wife to get screening so she could know far in advance that she may develop breast cancer and then begin preventative treatment for it? What about your kids or parents? Just because you don't want to live doesn't mean people around you don't.
$5k or $50K is the same thing to people barely getting by.

The best plan out there, you still pay 10%, Plus your Monthly Fee's
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This thread delivered. I needed a good laugh from both sides. No one listened to either! Classic. " now insert quip that's funny, insert another, no one cares. Claim homeless, free".
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:40 AM   #93
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Bill O'reilly started out as a truther until he sold out. Why do you think he's pissed all the time? Hard to live with yourself when you know you are a minion in Hitlers (NWO) regime.
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Umm Obamacare was written by the health insurance companies.
Then you can easily name the companies and the names of the persons that wrote the Affordable Care Act. Please educate us.
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This thread delivered. I needed a good laugh from both sides. No one listened to either! Classic. " now insert quip that's funny, insert another, no one cares. Claim homeless, free".
You are welcome sir!
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meanwhile in cuba for example, healthcare is absolutely mother fucking FREE and they have smaller infant mortality than in the USA

but americans will keep believing in their supreme leader, north korea style
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The majority of Americans don't want Obamacare.
Whether that's true or not, that's not the point. I said "what's good for the majority". There are too many stupid and broke ass Americans that don't understand that this will actually help them.
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Case in point: http://gawker.com/kimmel-asks-americ...for-1433866673
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read that earlier - don't know whether to laugh or cry
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meanwhile in cuba for example, healthcare is absolutely mother fucking FREE and they have smaller infant mortality than in the USA

but americans will keep believing in their supreme leader, north korea style
And they all live stacked up in diplapidated shitholes that are smaller than the average americans kitchen. They drive cars that Americans threw away in the 1960's, Kind of like you do. The leaders of course live in mansions and get driven in Mercedes.

Only idiots believes that what the Cuban government says about their country is true..
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