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Old 10-02-2013, 05:29 PM   #151
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Right. Back peddling as shown above. Now give it a rest old man. We can read and quote what you said just fine. Thank you.

Yet you seem to be among the few that lack comprehension. Reading the words is just half the battle. How the fuck did I EVER back-peddle?
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:31 PM   #152
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:35 PM   #153
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we were talking about infant mortality in shit holes compared to the USA and how this reflects upon the 2 way nature of your assholes in regards to your government helping itself to them in every possible way...

yes minte, you have a bigger and better house than a cuban guy does

we 60-s car driving coconuts still manage to have the same infant mortality as the USA (serbian and US infant mortality is the same LOL and we are a Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit hooooooooole )
imagine a hole, in this hole there is shit, this is serbia, that has the same infant mortality as you guys get it now? LOL



I am from a 3rd world country just like cuba, and all facilities are available to everybody, you simply do not know and I do...I will agree with you that their buildings are not like in beverly hills but this has shit to do with healthcare, you can keep hygene in a 100 year old building...


our SHIT HOLE country has the same infant mortality as yours...I call bullshit on all points...want to bet? 10:1?
bottom line: you can not view upon your anus with child like innocence after getting treated by US healthcare
come on man just admit it: you are getting screwed

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Old 10-02-2013, 05:36 PM   #154
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That about sums it up. Watching baddog, who can only get someone like 'theking' to agree with his brand of ignorance, reinforces all you need to know. Worse, these two retards will keep responding another half dozen times high five-ing one another.


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Old 10-02-2013, 05:39 PM   #155
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Yet you seem to be among the few that lack comprehension. Reading the words is just half the battle. How the fuck did I EVER back-peddle?
You didn't...not one step...so forget about it...unless you are just playing with the prick and allowing more rope to further hang himself with...which is what I suspect.
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You didn't...not one step...so forget about it...unless you are just playing with the prick and allowing more rope to further hang himself with...which is what I suspect.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I'm sure in your world winning internet duels with complete strangers on the web somehow makes your life a little less miserable. Unfortunately, the rest of us do not need to fake our own death to get attention. As for baddog, I guess he will fight all night to try and prove he's more right about something than the next stranger. Whatever makes your life tolerable I guess. Different strokes and all that.

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Whether that's true or not, that's not the point. I said "what's good for the majority". There are too many stupid and broke ass Americans that don't understand that this will actually help them.
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You sound like one of those people that think I should wear a helmet for my own good.


Like i said before 99% of democripts are Authoritarians.
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That is what you would do. My mother said screw chemo and I supported the decision. Why would I want to add decades to my life?

Because LIFES GOOD! C'mon man..breathins good, downing whisky with your best ol lady....riding that hog...wind in the hair...oh yea the Gov took that from you too with their helmet laws...no wonder you're pissed.
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Old 10-02-2013, 07:00 PM   #159
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Because LIFES GOOD! C'mon man..breathins good, downing whisky with your best ol lady....riding that hog...wind in the hair...oh yea the Gov took that from you too with their helmet laws...no wonder you're pissed.
As i look at this post from adendreams... had my doubts about this guy. But, yep.
Epitome of a democrat Authoritarian.
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Our current medical system dosnt work.

Im pro "obama care" even though I have great insurance and will most likely be paying more.

Sometimes you have to look at things from a society standpoint and healthcare is one of them IMO.

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Old 10-02-2013, 07:35 PM   #161
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Because LIFES GOOD! C'mon man..breathins good, downing whisky with your best ol lady....riding that hog...wind in the hair...oh yea the Gov took that from you too with their helmet laws...no wonder you're pissed.
Have you ever watched someone that was kept alive?
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Have you ever watched someone that was kept alive?
Yea held my G'pas hand while he passed...but it was rediculous they kept him on a breathing machine for 10 days after he was brain dead..just an all out scam for 3k per day...def no black and white answers on this subject
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Yea held my G'pas hand while he passed...but it was rediculous they kept him on a breathing machine for 10 days after he was brain dead..just an all out scam for 3k per day...def no black and white answers on this subject
There is for me. DNR
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Because that's who the globalists want. You really don't think you have anything to do with it... do you?
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I'm disgusted with the current state of healthcare. I've had a painful hernia for 2 years now that I wish I could get repaired. Unfortunately, I make too much to qualify for any assistance, even though I live paycheck to paycheck (because of past medical debt).

I work for a place that does all of the healthcare claims and payments for our state's insurance. So, I get to see all these people who don't want to work, would rather sit around playing games & smoke pot all day than lift a finger, get free healthcare, 100% paid for by my taxes. Yes, I know some people legitimately need assistance, but most of our members don't.

God, if it weren't for needing to be here for my kids, I'd be out of this country so fast.
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I'm disgusted with the current state of healthcare. I've had a painful hernia for 2 years now that I wish I could get repaired. Unfortunately, I make too much to qualify for any assistance, even though I live paycheck to paycheck (because of past medical debt).

I work for a place that does all of the healthcare claims and payments for our state's insurance. So, I get to see all these people who don't want to work, would rather sit around playing games & smoke pot all day than lift a finger, get free healthcare, 100% paid for by my taxes. Yes, I know some people legitimately need assistance, but most of our members don't.

God, if it weren't for needing to be here for my kids, I'd be out of this country so fast.
Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out on this board... who exactly is part of the paid White House Army of propagandized disinformation.
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Never been to IN I guess.

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As I have explained many countries...including Cuba...do not count premature births that die as having been a live birth because they do not have either the financial ability and/or the medical capability to care for them.
yes yes they do not have pens and paper to keep a tab on the stats only bacon eating 'mericans have the IQ and technology

oh and my shithole country has the same % as the mighty USA and we count every mother fucking one and we also care for premature births, for free, so you get the picture even tough you pretend that you dont

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The U.S. spends the money and has the medical capability (plus the law probably requires it) to care for premature births...of which 30-40% do not live beyond the first day of their birth and they are counted as live births...live or die.
so you are in fact saying that the infant mortality in the USA is even bigger? because you count your dead babies as live?

weeeeeeeeell ok then you certainly made your point there tex
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Back to the topic .............

So, will any of those 800,000 gov workers be voting Republican in the next round of elections?

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Have any of you been negatively impacted by the shutdown yet? Me neither.
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Lol!! Fox News.

Prez Obama just gave a speech that was covered by all major networks including CTV and CBC here in Canada. The only network not to cover the speech? Fox. What a bunch of losers.

It was a great speech - Obama is really nailing Boehner now.


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Lol!! Fortunately the world doesn't revolve around you.

So far, 800,000 Federal Employees are out of work without pay which is about $200 Million in lost income and money to the economy. Communities near parks are losing $76 Million Per Day. Yosemite National Park is now closed.

Domestic violence shelters in Montana and Vermont are no longer being paid and may have to closed.

Scientific research labs, most recently exploring a new type of meningitis in Hawaii and water quality in Tarpon Bay Florida are now closed. "Head Start", the health and nutrition program for low income kids has stopped. Preschools have closed in Calhoun Country, Alabama. Over 60,000 civilian employees at 16 US Intelligence agencies are now without work.

You really need to get your head out of the sand, Baddog. Don't you think it's sad that a foreigner like me cares more about this than you do?
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Lol!! Fox News.

Prez Obama just gave a speech that was covered by all major networks including CTV and CBC here in Canada. The only network not to cover the speech? Fox. What a bunch of losers.

It was a great speech - Obama is really nailing Boehner now.
This is horrible for the Republicans. They will not win this battle.

They've been fighting Obamacare since it became law, and they keep loosing this fight.
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Lol!! Fox News.

Prez Obama just gave a speech that was covered by all major networks including CTV and CBC here in Canada. The only network not to cover the speech? Fox. What a bunch of losers.

It was a great speech - Obama is really nailing Boehner now.




Lol!! Fortunately the world doesn't revolve around you.

So far, 800,000 Federal Employees are out of work without pay which is about $200 Million in lost income and money to the economy. Communities near parks are losing $76 Million Per Day. Yosemite National Park is now closed.

Domestic violence shelters in Montana and Vermont are no longer being paid and may have to closed.

Scientific research labs, most recently exploring a new type of meningitis in Hawaii and water quality in Tarpon Bay Florida are now closed. "Head Start", the health and nutrition program for low income kids has stopped. Preschools have closed in Calhoun Country, Alabama. Over 60,000 civilian employees at 16 US Intelligence agencies are now without work.

You really need to get your head out of the sand, Baddog. Don't you think it's sad that a foreigner like me cares more about this than you do?
Strange...I didn't pay that much attention but I have Fox news on TV playing in the background and I heard the President making a speech.
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oh and my shithole country has the same % as the mighty USA and we count every mother fucking one and we also care for premature births, for free, so you get the picture even tough you pretend that you dont



so you are in fact saying that the infant mortality in the USA is even bigger? because you count your dead babies as live?

weeeeeeeeell ok then you certainly made your point there tex
Fucking ignorant son of a bitch...that is what you are saying...not I. You are dismissed now.
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Interesting, Fox.com is covering it. How do you know it wasn't broadcast on Fox?
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As i look at this post from adendreams... had my doubts about this guy. But, yep.
Epitome of a democrat Authoritarian.
Is calling Democrats "Authoritarian" the new Fox News buzz word.. Is is that a "talking point"..
lol you guys are just fail anyway you look at it.
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Our current medical system dosnt work.

Im pro "obama care" even though I have great insurance and will most likely be paying more.

Sometimes you have to look at things from a society standpoint and healthcare is one of them IMO.
From the Rates and Plans I have been seeing, it is not much cheaper than what someone could of shopped around and got close to the same prices, for the coverage.

The only ones are the People who will get the "credit" that will see significant help.

I have seen where the same plans for people already paying are Cheaper, Staying the Same, or not worth it. So it just depends on what you shopped around to find, and what State you live in.

My state, I guess if you make Zero, we didn't take the expansion for medicare or whatever, so unless it is deemed medically necessary for your life you don't get approved according to my friend who needs shoulder surgery.

I am wondering what the rates for pre existing conditions are going to be. I have heard the same, and I heard one guy say that the ACA said his would be $1,300 a month...
IDK
just have to wait more I guess.

I still think all the money Spent so far, could of paid for all of this....
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I didn't realize there was any where in this country that atleast basic PIP auto insurance wasn't mandatory. I guess that is one more thing to make me say wtf about Cali. Yes in florida it is mandatory as it should be every where.

*edit* Ok I see now your point was if you don't drive it is not mandatory or you can pay 35k to avoid it. Personally I think being allowed to pay 35k to not have insurance is bullshit being even a small accident can rack up more than that amount in medical bills but that is just my personal opinion. I for one am in support of people being required to have insurance for the privilege of driving not to protect themselves but to protect the other people on the road.

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Interesting, Fox.com is covering it. How do you know it wasn't broadcast on Fox?
I changed the channel to 507 a few times which here on Bell, is Fox.
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That does not mean shit.
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Fucking ignorant son of a bitch...that is what you are saying...not I. You are dismissed now.
well ok you are writing it then

if you count dead premature babies as live, at a rate of 30-40% according to you, then you actually have a far worse infant mortality than the statistics show

so how the fuck can you not be saying it?

3rd world coconuts get free healthcare that is up to par with US health care

I mean you bomb and cripple and exploit the shit out of them and they manage free healthcare that is up to par with yours




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Lol!! Fox News.

Prez Obama just gave a speech that was covered by all major networks including CTV and CBC here in Canada. The only network not to cover the speech? Fox. What a bunch of losers.

It was a great speech - Obama is really nailing Boehner now.




Lol!! Fortunately the world doesn't revolve around you.

So far, 800,000 Federal Employees are out of work without pay which is about $200 Million in lost income and money to the economy. Communities near parks are losing $76 Million Per Day. Yosemite National Park is now closed.

Domestic violence shelters in Montana and Vermont are no longer being paid and may have to closed.

Scientific research labs, most recently exploring a new type of meningitis in Hawaii and water quality in Tarpon Bay Florida are now closed. "Head Start", the health and nutrition program for low income kids has stopped. Preschools have closed in Calhoun Country, Alabama. Over 60,000 civilian employees at 16 US Intelligence agencies are now without work.

You really need to get your head out of the sand, Baddog. Don't you think it's sad that a foreigner like me cares more about this than you do?
Boo Fucking Whoo

First, you are being LIED to. The ones that work will get BACK pay, Always have during a shutdown.

Only the Non essential people are not working, ha kinda funny non essential...

LOTS, I repeat LOTS of Companies have layoffs, Cut Backs and so on....

The Gov is to BIG. Some jobs might need to go away.... ha
Put away the cake.....

Now am I talking about all of them NOPE.....

Whats up with one side trying to pass a bill to fund like Vets and the other saying No.. We want it all funded?? HAHA

Fucking Politicians... All money greedy fuckers.....
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Interesting, Fox.com is covering it. How do you know it wasn't broadcast on Fox?
Because the Left told him so... It is the LAW of the LAND when they say it!
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Boo Fucking Whoo

First, you are being LIED to. The ones that work will get BACK pay, Always have during a shutdown.
So basically what you are saying is people don't have to go work, work doesn't get done, AND we pay them later on? In other words park rangers don't go to work but we pay them for work they didn't once Congress pulls it's head out it's ass?

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Only the Non essential people are not working, ha kinda funny non essential...
Well, police officers are considered essential. Park rangers are not.

The difference between the two is one is important, and the other we want. We want public parks, thus, we must pay park rangers.

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LOTS, I repeat LOTS of Companies have layoffs, Cut Backs and so on....
And?

Companies can do whatever the fuck the want. When it comes to the government, it's our tax dollars so we have a vested interest. Parks are shut down and park rangers are being sent home, only to receive pay for work they didn't do. That's our tax dollars being wasted - we are paying money and getting nothing in return.
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So basically what you are saying is people don't have to go work, work doesn't get done, AND we pay them later on? In other words park rangers don't go to work but we pay them for work they didn't once Congress pulls it's head out it's ass?



Well, police officers are considered essential. Park rangers are not.

The difference between the two is one is important, and the other we want. We want public parks, thus, we must pay park rangers.



And?

Companies can do whatever the fuck the want. When it comes to the government, it's our tax dollars so we have a vested interest. Parks are shut down and park rangers are being sent home, only to receive pay for work they didn't do. That's our tax dollars being wasted - we are paying money and getting nothing in return.
Exactly...
So it is all a big show. Come to find out, the 800K workers only like 25% are laid off.
I think one thing you miss took me saying, the people that are required to WORK but when time to get a check, it will be delayed.....

Look how much money the spent trying to close the WWII monument. LOL
Heard the tried to close a private library or something also.

Both sides need to grow up, quit spending money. They are ALL bought off...
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Is calling Democrats "Authoritarian" the new Fox News buzz word.. Is is that a "talking point"..
lol you guys are just fail anyway you look at it.
Me, myself and I do not watch state run 'news'.
But when you hear the Authoritarian 'buzz word'; or when you see any Authoritarian democripts on those state run propaganda networks, let me know, would ya?
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Me, myself and I do not watch state run 'news'.
But when you hear the Authoritarian 'buzz word'; or when you see any Authoritarian democripts on those state run propaganda networks, let me know, would ya?
You are retarded
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From the Rates and Plans I have been seeing, it is not much cheaper than what someone could of shopped around and got close to the same prices, for the coverage.

The only ones are the People who will get the "credit" that will see significant help.

I have seen where the same plans for people already paying are Cheaper, Staying the Same, or not worth it. So it just depends on what you shopped around to find, and what State you live in.

My state, I guess if you make Zero, we didn't take the expansion for medicare or whatever, so unless it is deemed medically necessary for your life you don't get approved according to my friend who needs shoulder surgery.

I am wondering what the rates for pre existing conditions are going to be. I have heard the same, and I heard one guy say that the ACA said his would be $1,300 a month...
IDK
just have to wait more I guess.

I still think all the money Spent so far, could of paid for all of this....
Yeah that's the point, get insurance to people without the means to afford it. Sounds like it's working. Rates on pre existing conditions are the same...
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I meant as a German citizen are you given free health care
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whether you love or hate the idea of gov mandated/subsidized health coverage...one thing is certain = 10's of millions of people who would otherwise be uninsured will soon be insured.

once this happens...no administration even a Republican President...will be able to put that toothpaste back in the tube...it will soon be as entrenched as social security and it's never going away,

Calling it Obamacare will just fade away and it will just blend into the fabric of society...anyone who predicts it will fail or be repealed is just shaking an angry fist at the clouds.
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From the Rates and Plans I have been seeing, it is not much cheaper than what someone could of shopped around and got close to the same prices, for the coverage.

The only ones are the People who will get the "credit" that will see significant help.

I have seen where the same plans for people already paying are Cheaper, Staying the Same, or not worth it. So it just depends on what you shopped around to find, and what State you live in.

My state, I guess if you make Zero, we didn't take the expansion for medicare or whatever, so unless it is deemed medically necessary for your life you don't get approved according to my friend who needs shoulder surgery.

I am wondering what the rates for pre existing conditions are going to be. I have heard the same, and I heard one guy say that the ACA said his would be $1,300 a month...
IDK
just have to wait more I guess.

I still think all the money Spent so far, could of paid for all of this....
The plans give you alot more than they did before with no caps and you cant get turned down for preexisting conditions. Thats a big difference.
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Back to the topic .............

So, will any of those 800,000 gov workers be voting Republican in the next round of elections?

LOL
It's way more than 800k my aunt whom works for a NASA contractor has been out of work since the first day. If it goes on more than 2 or 3 weeks they will all be officially laid off. Most of the people she works will are all not working and they aren't counted in that 800k. There are a lot of businesses both large and small that are effected by this and most of them aren't counted in that 800k number.

However the die hard Republicans will still once again vote for their favorite knuckle dragging tea party because the kook aide is strong with them and they actually think it's all Obamas fault..
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17% approval rating for the GOP and 37% approval rating for Democrats.

I think Chris Matthews said it best on Meet the Press this past Sunday. He said something like, you know that phrase throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Well congressional republicans are asking Obama to throw out the baby directly. It's not going to happen. It's his only legislative accomplishment and it's something that Democrats have been trying to do for generations and they're acting like he's supposed to just trash it in the name of compromise when they don't even have a plan to replace it. Nobody will blame him for that in the real world. They're asking too much.
You're quoting Chris "I'm a shouting asshole who was handed everything by my dad" Matthews? I don't need to read the rest. What do you actually think, untainted by a talking head that would spit on you and have you beaten if you needed help or got to near his limousine?
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That's the best you got? It is the difference between mandatory and voluntary and in CA you DO NOT need to pay for auto insurance if you put up a $35k bond. Just admit you are wrong.
Most people can't afford a cash bond, so they have to buy insurance.

The problem with a cash bond, is if you can do that you must have other assets. You may never be responsible for an accident, but if you're in one, all the other driver's lawyer has to do is convince the jury you're at fault. Then they can go after your other assets. Usually when you have insurance, the other side just sues for the maximum of the insurance.
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