dyna mo

dyna mo

stfu. this isn't a civics lesson for east eurotards.

SuckOnThis

Ok Mr internet lawyer, who exactly is giving us this 'privilege'?

aka123

Thanks for clearing it up. Now it totally makes sense.

Wiping my ass is priviledge, not right.. or was it the other way around? What the law says about this?

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SuckOnThis

That is an editorial piece by a right wing paper who has fought against legalization from day one.

A perfect example of their propaganda is a few weeks after legalization some 19 year old kid crashed into a parked cop car. The Post ran headlines claiming the guy was high on pot, turned out he was also 3x over the legal limit for alcohol which they never mentioned. Very trustworthy source.

dyna mo

the funniest part of this is you actually think reading/understanding a law takes some sort of special ability/jurisprudence degree hanging on the wall.

coming from you, that makes total sense.



the part you fail to realize is the law is established as a defense against prosecution, not an offense declaring personal freedom.

it's not that hard, you just have to read, then try and understand instead of making yourself look silly here by challenging me on the legal record which you clearly fail at comprehending, all of which is, well, on the record.

SuckOnThis

No, this shows just how stupid you are with your trolling. You read some shit in that article about our medical law and confused it with Amendment 64. Under medical, it provides an affirmative defense, Amendment 64 does not. Now quit acting like you know something and go ride your bike.

Best-In-BC

What ? You saying people who dont smoke dont think that in general ?

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IN THE INTEREST OF THE EFFICIENT USE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES ENHANCING REVENUE FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, AND INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF COLORADO FIND AND DECLARE THAT THE USE OF MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGAL FOR PERSONS TWENTY ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER AND TAXED IN A MANNER SIMILAR TO ALCOHOL.

Here is our constitutional amendment. Show me where it says 'defense against prosecution' or 'privilege'. Oh but it DOES say INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM.

Fucking idiot. Always acting like you know something when you don't know jack shit.

dyna mo

you really are this fucking stupid. fyi brainiac, you might want to read up on legal jargon such as "not unlawful". i know that included a big word for you, unlawful.


and let's get something else straight you dumbfuck nitwit, you trolled this thread, I didn't troll my own thread you stupid motherfucker.

aka123

Defence against prosecution? What if I get kidnapped by feds and prosecuted on federal land or in another state? If I escape, can I seek asylum from some USA state against the horrors I have experienced in USA?

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dyna mo

jesus fucking christ, that doesn't make it a right, you dumbfuck.

read this you stupid motherfucker-

the fucking law:

3) PERSONAL USE OF MARIJUANA. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the following acts are not unlawful and shall not be an offense under Colorado law or the law of any locality within Colorado or be a basis for seizure or forfeiture of assets under Colorado law for persons twenty-one years of age or older:



the fucking legal definition of unlawful:


That which is contrary to law. ?Unlawful? and ?illegal? are frequently used as synonymous terms, but, in the proper sense of the word, ?unlawful,? as applied to promises, agreements, considerations, and the like, denotes that they are ineffectual in law because they involve acts which, although not illegal, i. e., positively forbidden, are disapproved of by the law, and are therefore not recognized as the ground of legal rights, either because they are immoral or because they are against public policy. It is on this ground that contracts in restraint of marriage or of trade are generally void. Sweet. And see Hagerman v. Buchanan, 45 N. J. Eq. 292, 17 Atl. 946, 14 Am. St Rep. 732; Tatum v. State, 66 Ala. 467; Johnson v. State, 66 Ohio St. 59. 63 N. E. 607. 61 L. R. A. 277, 90 Am. St. Rep. 564; Pinder v. State, 27 Fla. 370, 8 South. 837, 26 Am. St. Rep. 75; MacDaniel v. U. S





fucking punk.

dyna mo

how fucking stupid can you be to actually think someone is trolling their own fucking thread!



that's some high-level dumbfuckery right there.

the butthurt lingers with that one.

SuckOnThis

Hey idiot, its in our Constitution, what the fuck do you think makes something a right?

Fucking Christ, no wonder you have no damn friends and have to spend day and night on this board as your only social outlet. You're fucking retarded.

NatalieK

OK, we're in Torrevieja & the policia seem very relaxed around here. Plenty of cannabis for sale in town & many people just sitting around rolling & smoking it when you relax at 4 in the morning enjoying a beer near the seafront

But yes, you're correct over the privacy laws

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dyna mo

you really really are this fucking stupid.


here's a state of Colorado legal precedent, let's see if you can comprehend the fact that it proofs without a doubt that you do not have a legal personal right to smoke weed in Colorado.

if it were a legal personal freedom, then employers would not be able to legally fire employees


Colorado Court of Appeals Rules Employers May Terminate Employees Who Test Positive for Marijuana

After his termination, Mr. Coates filed suit claiming that his termination violated a Colorado statute known as the Lawful Activities Statute. With some exceptions, that statute prohibits an employer from discharging an employee for “engaging in any lawful activity off the premises of the employer during nonworking hours”. At the trial court level, Dish Network LLC filed a motion to dismiss Mr. Coates’ case on the grounds that medical marijuana was not a “lawful activity” because such conduct remains illegal under federal law. The trial court agreed with Dish Network’s argument and dismissed Mr. Coates’ lawsuit. Mr. Coates appealed to the Colorado Court of Appeals.

In its opinion, the Court of Appeals noted that at the time Mr. Coates was terminated all marijuana use was prohibited under federal law and remains so today. The court held that for an activity to be a “lawful activity” under the Lawful Activities Statute, it must be permitted by, and not contrary to, state and federal law. The court therefore held that because Mr. Coates’ state license for medical marijuana use was at the time of termination, subject to and prohibited by federal law, his use of marijuana was not a “lawful activity” for the purposes of the Lawful Activity Statute. Therefore, his termination was found to not be in violation of the Lawful Activities Statute and the dismissal of his case by the trial court was affirmed.


dumbfuck.

MaDalton

am i wrong or end 9 out of 10 of your threads in an argument and name calling?

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aka123

So, if it is not illegal, unlawful or whatever, it is legal. At least when following western law practices (those USA may or may not follow). There is no need to separately mention every thing those you can do, it is enough to tell the things you can't do, the rest is legal.

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dyna mo

fuck you dalton, dickhead. do a fucking search and realize for yourself you are wrong and stick it up your ass.


or you can just read this fucking thread and see i treat people the way they deserve to be treated.

fuckwad.

dyna mo

all i know is i noticed a long time ago you wax over all my posts except the ones you think you need to use to prove your miserable views.

gofuckyourself, fucking nazi homo.

MaDalton

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dyna mo

fuck you miserable fuckwad.

dyna mo

dalton's too fucking miserable to realize I was replying to being called out here:



but that doesn't matter, he's got to try and proof some sort of bullshit that he's done some sort of accounting and 9 out 10 threads are some sort of something that fits that.

fuck you.

420

I was wondering why you were drinking already. Then I remembered it's saint patrick's day.

MaDalton

you surely have a short fuse - but if cursing at me for making an observation makes you happy... proceed at will

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dyna mo

stay the fuck out of it 420, you've been respectful towards me and that's why i am respectful to you. As you can see, i can go either way, this thread is proof to that.

i treat people they deserve to be treated, regardless. stefan wants to drive-by troll this thread with some bullshit indictment re: 90% of my threads so i'll treat him like the fuckwad he is.

dyna mo

why the fuck should i have a long fuse with your drive-by bullshit fucking remarks?

fuck you.

dyna mo

my observation is you are a miserable fuckwad who like to make shit up to try and make an insult OK.


either way, the glass is half fucking full with you and that's why you need to make shit up like some bizarre stat on the threads i participate int.

that's why you are a miserable fuckwad.

dyna mo

i did your work for you, instead of making shit up, i actually perused the last 100 threads i've participated in. I've bitchslapped dickheads like you in ~10% of them.


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Joshua G

you always give me a chuckle when you call someone else stupid.

your statement above? utter nonsense. Just because something is legal does not make it illegal for a private enterprise to ban a legal activity on their domicile. both sides have the freedom to speak, & the freedom to fire. Happens every day when one person offends their boss, gets fired.

but what would you know about a real job in the real world.

aka123

US has less employee protection than for example around here, but let me quote myself.

"Usually it is considered that employers have jurisdiction towards their workers only when they are at work, especially when the personal life things have nothing to do with the job."

So, employer can forbid for example drinking alcohol in job, but unless your work is about being some absolutist role model, then it has no saying that do you drink during your freetime or not. Same for everything else legal. And even if it is illegal; like walking against red light, it is not guaranteed to be sufficient reason to fire someone, assuming that you need some reason, other than "I feel so".

Alcohol of course leaves body quite soon, and I don't think that there is yet guidelines for having traces of cannabis at work. But there surely will be in the future.

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dyna mo

yet again, i simply agree with the opinion of the colorado court of appeals, fyi, the opinion that actually matters.

here it is again
Colorado Court of Appeals Rules Employers May Terminate Employees Who Test Positive for Marijuana

you're the one equating doing a schedule 1 drug with offending the boss. easy to see who's being stupid with comments like that AFTER i posted the appeals court ruling.

dyna mo

exactly right.

crockett

So is drinking alcohol & smoking cigarettes, neither of which will get you fired from a job if you are doing it on your free time. If it's legal in the state, then it shouldn't be something you could be fired for as long as you don't do it while working. There is nothing else that has this same double standard which is very well "odd".

dyna mo

those are not schedule 1 drugs. i get where you are coming from, but it doesn't seem odd to me.

+ someone can drink before going to work and get fired for being drunk on the job, even though they were not drinking on the job.

Dead

Legal weed gets you higher..../thread;)

What a funny question to ask? If you like to smoke you smoke.....if you do not, why would the law be any influence in this decision?
Makes no sense to me,,,,+1 to fuck it!
And I think legal weed will have more blow back then going to the streets to handle it. Cause every time the government gets involved, no good can come from it...Ever

kane

I have smoked weed in the past, I will again in the future. It will be legally for sale here in a few months. I might try some out, but I have no plans as to when.

For me it makes me lazy and complacent so I don't have time for it. Making it legal does make it convenient if I do decide to smoke it because I don't know anyone who sells it so I would have trouble getting it.

kane

Here is the difference.

If I work a normal Mon-Fri job and on Saturday I have several drinks and even get drunk, by Monday all is fine and I am back to normal. If they were to test me I would pass. Weed can stay in your system for up to 30 days. So if I get baked on Saturday and tested on Monday I will likely test positive. I am then going to have to explain to my employer that I smoked it on Saturday, not Monday morning.

My brother's job is a good example of this in action. He works in commercial construction. If there is an accident on the job site everyone on the site gets drug tested that day. If you test positive you get punished. How severely depends on your involvement in the accident. If you were involved in the accident you will likely get fired. If you were just on the job site, but had nothing to do with the accident you will likely get suspended without pay for a few days, written up etc and if you get multiples of these you could get fired.

A handful of months ago there was an incident where a guy got hurt on a job site. Another guy, who had nothing to do with the accident, tested positive for booze and got suspended for a few days. He explained that he had been out drinking the night before and likely still had some in his system, but he wasn't drunk. He hadn't broken any laws, but the company explained to him that they don't care what he does on his own time. They do care if he comes to work drunk or high and even though he said he was fine they had no real way of proving that.

So my brother has already said legal or not, he's not partaking because he isn't going to throw away 15 years of work to get high.

dyna mo

thanks for replying to the topic!

Dead, my sister never smoked weed, only because it's against the law, but mentioned in casual convo with me recently that she'd try it where it's legal if she were there. what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

dyna mo

he prolly also thinks 2x before getting drunk the night before work. or before he gets in a car and drives. allowing people to indulge also includes the expectation that adults will be adults about it.

Dead

Then she should stay far away!
Are Chemicals that make us are defined by rule?
ever....
She has done well with out i assume,...and has never needed?> This is not going to help her , she will enable? I for one think judgment free weed is good at any level of those with needs, if all parties involved find source?
Not being devils just not sure how this will land?
Oh and fuck the Vegas Rule,,,,never applied that logic here.....EVER

Dead

And here we fall back to the Workmen Comp argue.
as an employer this is grey
I have a shop full of dirty piss, and if one goes down the rest will follow......My game was to Buy all the insurance for them and spouse....
Now if a man gets hurt, he was never on site....EVER that day. Horne remodeling.....
This way he is covered by My policy, and so is his spouse
I have battled this argument for years only to get more pissed at the thought of an employee gets hurt on My job,.....and has no coverage from Comp or Company ????
Fuck that....My guys do not smoke on the job,,,,they do not Drink on the job...yet will test dirty.
So we have made it to where the people are covered , besides the weekend toke, and here we have a nation of people that choose free will without neglect?
Fuck you Oboma,,,,,Loophole!
And i get no help from the Government for our policy and it is paid By the company!
Lets keep winning!
We did not need Pot to be legal to wise up!

dyna mo

that's not where she's coming from. the Vegas slogan wasn't meant to be looked at as a rule, i meant it to highlight that people go to Vegas and do shit they do not do anywhere else, thus the slogan. She's one of those sorts.

dyna mo

i think someone touched on it earlier in the thread, there are big issues like this for the courts to sort out going forward. If i smoked weed 29 days ago and ran over my co-worker with the forklift today, weed didn't contribute to the accident. or maybe it did.

disclaimer, i no longer get to drive a forklift(not weed related), it was pointed out earlier i don't have a real job.

Dead

well,...she will have this and it will not her ni=one.at all!
just trying to make cause is all,,,,Never had discussion heated with you .....Ever....this is a curios place is all....she is good/1

Dead

i for one do not think all should smoke is all....

That scares me more hen the laws

dyna mo

oh, i'm hearing you. again, thanks for contributing to the topic.

dillonaire

Smoking weed is basically legal here in cali. I used to have my card and it was nice to be able to smoke legally. Hangout in a store and vaporize with some other pot heads. However, I got bored of smoking weed and gave it up 2 years ago. Shit makes me lazy and demotivated. Not for me anymore.

I do think it should be legal.

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give up 25 years clean time for weed

Jace

alcohol is dope too